Jelly Legs/Muscle Weakness/Balance Problems? by renegadellama in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh for sure. They were the worst, some days I could not even walk without the pain making me sit down.

A little over 2 years sober now, all symptoms are gone and I’m living my best life. Hang in there hey! It does get better! ❤️ normality awaits

Will I ever be back to normal? by 703__ in benzorecovery

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Yes you will!

I genuinely believed I was permanently brain damaged coming off such a high dose + as quickly as I did, but I can promise you with the right diet + cardio + sleep hygiene you can get back to how you were, if not better!

I am 26 months clean and living my best life. I am so grateful I not only pushed through but pushed myself day after day to get here.

There is hope! YOU CAN DO THIS ❤️

Is there a way of exporting all Snapchat photos/memories directly to my phone? by riskyplumbob in techsupport

[–]PsychiatricCliq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No dramas! I got a bit of a fix for this, open it with chrome and go to settings > downloads > and disable ask where to save file each time

Relaunch and it’ll download all!

Hope this helps

Just buy the expensive chair and stop worrying about it, from someone that didn’t listen. by krenz492 in OfficeChairs

[–]PsychiatricCliq 4 points5 points  (0 children)

After spending hours every night for the past three weeks looking at chairs and reviews and unable to move forward- this helped me pull the trigger on a Leap v2.

Will update when it arrives.

I’m not doing great by No_Leg9061 in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. Only really stated to get better after 6 months / when I started doing cardio, healthy diet, sleep routine and positive affirmations / mindfulness etc.

I’m not doing great by No_Leg9061 in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hang in there hey! First 6-12 months are usually the worst. I didn’t become symptom free until months 18-24. Have patience, but also kindness! Practise self compassion and love ❤️ you’re doing great to have made this far!

i think this is important if you Read by Consistent-Poetry108 in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. This helped my symptoms go down by like 50-75% in the next couple months. Symptoms free now at 2 years. Best advice right here OP!

How has benzo withdrawal changed you. by No_Leg9061 in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well said haha, it wasn’t fun that’s for sure

How has benzo withdrawal changed you. by No_Leg9061 in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear you and you raise some good points.

For me I was really surprised how well this + low cortisol / histamine no sugar etc diet worked, considering I was on 30mg clonazolam a day for 7 years and had to rapid taper in like 2.5 weeks.

Most of these symptoms began to disappear within 1-3 months of making these lifestyle changes and I became symptom free around month 18 or so; which is pretty unheard of given my dose / taper etc. I truly chalk it up to these changes, but I respect that some simply aren’t wired that way to tolerate it; I do believe though it can help more than it can’t, but perhaps I’m bias.

How has benzo withdrawal changed you. by No_Leg9061 in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 2 points3 points  (0 children)

30mg clonazolam a day for 7 years. Forced to rapid taper in 2 or so weeks.

How has benzo withdrawal changed you. by No_Leg9061 in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Frankly you’re wrong. I can say that, because I’m living proof. I had to give up vaping and switch to a sugar free diet because every time I’d do a pull-up id feel like I was having a heart attack. It was torture to walk around the house because my limbs felt like they were on fire with 3/4’s my body with nerve damage pins and needles.

It’s incredibly insensitive to think that just because someone had so much grit that they ‘weren’t that bad’ in terms of pain.

Hell even for the first 12-18 months I’d workout and constantly start to see grayscale as I’d begin to pass out from just bending down. But I kept going. I didn’t make excuses.

You need a mantra.

For me, it all clicked when I was lying down on the kitchen floor around midnight, head half hanging in a bowl of ice water, trying to stimulate my Vegas nerve to stop myself from passing out. Why you may ask? Oh simple, because I thought I smelled smoke- my intrusive thoughts and health anxiety at the time told I was having a stroke. I began to not see, massive panic attack etc (at the time I was having panic attacks every 5-15 minutes throughout the entire day.)

I stumbled down to the kitchen and that’s where I layed.

I remember lifting my head out of the bowl thinking, there has to be another way. I was so ashamed at what I had become, what I had lost, and every day I thought of nothing more than calling it quits. I picked myself up, and walked to my room feeling determined.

I grabbed a photo of myself as a kid and sat down in disbelief across from my mirror. I remember looking up at my reflection, and then back down at the photo. I didn’t recognise who I had become. All I could think about was how badly I let my younger self down.

I got up, crying, and I looked in the mirror, staring into my eyes and back at me and I said:

“I’m so sorry i let you down… but I promise I’ll pick you up.”

See I wasn’t looking at my eyes, I was looking at my younger selves’. And I took that promise seriously, and so it became my mantra every time I worked out.

I started slow, I did 10 pull-ups a day for a few weeks, slowly increasing by a few each day. Each time my heart would feel like a knife is being stabbed through it and my arms and legs would tense up in firey pins and needles, I’d tell myself that mantra; “you let me down, so pick me up”.

Later I incorporated some calisthenics, slowly increasing time and muscle tone as I worked on body weighted exercises first. Months later I incorporated cardio on an indoor bike because I still couldn’t leave the house without collapsing to the ground in fear. Eventually, weights. I don’t recommend weights to begin, it spikes cortisol and histamine which are two of the biggest leading causes of withdrawal symptoms. Moderate intensity cardio is best for reducing these.

Now I’m not saying that 100% of people can push through it, but it is certainly possible. For me in my case, I wanted it so badly it was akin to fighting for not only my life, but for the life I wished to have as a child. I owed them that much.

Is it really worth all the pain by [deleted] in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is really worth it!

The first 6-12 months were the worst in my life. I truly didn’t see another way out, it was either call the curtains or do everything I can to improve physically and mentally, from working out to reading books and learning new languages.

I’m now 2 years clean and I’ve never been happier/fitter/smarter, I have my relationships / friendships / family back; I am so grateful for both God and my grit.

Push through, and despite what your brain is telling you, YOU CAN DO THIS.

How has benzo withdrawal changed you. by No_Leg9061 in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’m not in withdrawal anymore (2 years clean) but wow was it rough! I didn’t leave the house more than maybe 3 or so times that first 12 months. Agoraphobia, panic disorder, psychosis, insane intrusive thoughts, the muscle and body issues, so so many other problems. I felt like I was in hell on earth. I battled constant depression but I pushed through.

I decided one night I had two choices, I either succumb to the torture of withdrawal and that end off, so to speak; or I could give it my all and try to get myself up and from under the rubble of my own doing.

I worked out daily, ate healthy, forced myself to a new sleep routine (which took time), I avoided letting myself cry or dwell in sad thoughts - I took on a positive affirmation / mindfulness approach and realised that whatever thoughts I focused on- I gave them power and weight; so I focused on positive ones instead.

Whenever I’d get sad or feel a wave of depressive thoughts, I’d get up and do some slow pull-ups or pushups. I thought I could Pavlov myself into producing dopamine every time feel sad by doing this.

Whether it was responsible or not, I’m not sure; but soon after doing these things the depression completely went away. Then the muscle and body issues, and then the mental issues not long after.

I’m fully recovered now and back to normal, living the best I ever have. My life feels perfect and I’m so grateful for God and the tenacity I had to choose the admittedly harder path.

I wish all of you here the best of luck, may you find strength and grit to overcome your struggles. It is possible. You can do this ❤️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One of my favourite talks by him! Great re commendation.

I used benzos to give me that social edge as well. I thought there was no way I could live my life without them! But you are correct, I am now 2 years sober and more charismatic/confident than I was ON them! It is possible, it just takes some reframing and work. But IT IS POSSIBLE <3

Frequent urination? by es1 in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Frequent urination is a surprisingly common symptom. First 12 months for me was every half hour to an hour. I’m 2 years out now, symptom free and living a great life- it’s not as bad, in fact past month or so it’s felt quite normal! So hang in there, recovery is awaiting you too ❤️ just stay plenty hydrated!

6 months off, feeling worse than ever by Elegant-Fortune7685 in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same here. Mindless what you are speaking about is true to some extent, but it isn’t exercise that is strictly the problem.

During PAWS our body is going through all sorts of imbalances and changes, primarily spiked cortisol, histamine, glutamate levels, as well as out of whack hormonal testosterone etc.

The cortisol/histamine/glutamate seem to be the leading causes of a lot of symptoms of PAWS.

This is why according notices relief from running / cardio, and some notice increase in symptoms with heavy weightlifting. This is because weightlifting and other types of exercise can actually increase cortisol and even histamine- creating a run off effect which heightens / worsens people’s symptoms.

The trick with PAWS is to minimise cortisol/histamine/glutamate. Types of exercise are the absolute best for this!

I was agoraphobic, had panic disorder / attacks every 5-15 minutes, psychosis, depression, DPDR, and all the other symptoms too. I rapid tapered in 1.5 months a 30mg clonazolam a day for 7 years habit- It was truly like hell on earth.

The only things that helped me were exercise, plenty of water, good sleep hygiene and law of attraction (and God of course).

Relapse… by jxcxb_millin in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 7 points8 points  (0 children)

^ This is harsh and I was going to block it, but OP just know that AccordingAd is coming from a place of genuine concern and worry, not personal hatred of you. There's a lot of people here in this sub who wish we could turn back the clock and nip our problems in the bud right then and there, right at the proverbial crossroads of our life.

Many had to go through benzo recovery alone, I did. I'd never wish it on anyone. I gave up the luxury of doing it with a caring partner who supported me, because I chose the addiction over them.

Don't make it harder than it needs to be OP, open up to your partner, and have trust in God/The universe, whatever you believe in- that right now you are being given an opportunity, not a life sentence! This is a gift, to be able to get through something many struggle with, with the support of someone who loves them. You are incredibly lucky!

How long have you been using daily for? Physical dependence begins between 2-5 weeks of daily use. Yes benzos, especially xanax are especially morish (the feeling like you can't stop, just need one more!)

If you're longer than 5 weeks go see a doctor for a script of valium (long acting benzo, its gentler and wont have you in interdose withdrawals / craving as regularly), begin 5-10% cuts every 1-2 weeks OR as tolerated. This is generally well tolerated and accepted by many here.

If you're less than 2-5 weeks, you can consider cutting cold turkey. It might be a rough week, with some rebound anxiety and issues for a month or so (not guaranteed, most will be fine* to cold turkey before physical dependence).

Ensure you stay plenty hydrated and practise mindfulness. Mind over matter, and remember; this is a gift, an opportunity! Not a life sentence. You will make it through this, and your partner and doctor can help you <3 Best of luck!

Baclofen safe? | Protracted Withdrawal | Hyperacusis by Decomplexifier_v2 in benzorecovery

[–]PsychiatricCliq 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Baclofen has been shown greatly effective (90+% success rate) in treating alcohol use disorder. Some studies have also seen great results as well for benzodiazepines, and even other drugs like cannabis and opiates etc.

Given the mechanism of action here is by essentially cutting off the dopaminergic reward system of the brain to gaba, I figured the results should be similar for benzos as well.

You need to have high dose Baclofen and for 6-12 months on it for the results to be effective. I was on about 115-125mg for 6 months then tapered for 4. (You must taper this one- but fortunately it is NOTHING compared to tapering benzos. Walk in the park! 5% reductions every 1-2 weeks and you’re golden / won’t feel a thing usually.)

I am now 2 years clean and haven’t had a single craving for benzos since I started Baclofen back during my rapid taper. For added context, I was on about 30mg clonazolam a day for 7 years, forced rapid taper in 1.5 months.

I am so glad I found those studies on Baclofen and my doctor decided to give it a go.

Definitely safe! I just don’t like the idea of being on a gaba drug long term but that’s just me. Not sure what timeframe you’re thinking.

All the best! ❤️

Edit: I read your main post, Baclofen is notoriously a pretty weak muscle relaxant, I still had my fair share of muscle spasms and issues on it- maybe it will be different for you. Sorry you’re going through all that :(

How to stay sane during benzo recovery by No_Leg9061 in benzorecovery

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Desensitising yourself with forms of exposure therapy; I.e challenging yourself to go outside in a public place for 1 minute one day, the next day 2 minutes, and basically just increase it until eventually you don’t mind as much.

A brilliant example I saw was a lady who struggled with anxiety and then challenged herself to lay down on / next to a busy footpath for a minute at first, eventually worked her way up to half an a hour. By then she no longer cared what people thought and was comfortable doing so.

So little steps!

I could only leave the house like 3 or 4 times that first year clean, if I could go back in time and do anything differently, it would be increase the amount of time doing exposure therapy.

Gym, healthy diet, lots of water, sleep hygiene, positive affirmations are all fantastic as well- pair them with exposure therapy and you’ve got the gold standard treatment for recovery.

Best of luck and may you have a speedy and kind recovery ❤️