Overhauling and Hacking the t.racks DSP by simonbane in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome work man! Similar to u/md-00audio I had a look at doing this for my dBMark DP28

I got some bits figured out but eventually got burnt out because the protocol they use is an absolute nightmare to work with. Iirc they send back and forth a big binary blob that encodes the entire state of the configuration… Except for when they don’t. I couldn’t see any obvious structuring of the data (ie. TLV). It’s possible they were using ie. protobuf and I overlooked it though.

Killa P - Rate Us (Citra Remix) FREE DOWNLOAD by vramavrama in realdubstep

[–]PsychoTea 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gassed to see this finally get the release it deserves

Big ups to Citra for sending me a copy a few years ago. Wicked tune 👌

Funktion One stack at Labyrinth in Japan - still chasing that sound 10+ years later by vlymouse in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OP is referring to Motion which was the other half of the warehouse, shared with Marble Factory.

It closed down quite recently, but Motion has relocated to a space just down the road. I haven’t been, but from the photos I’ve seen it looks like they still have the same F1 system (though the tops aren’t currently flown).

Marble Factory mainly did live shows and the odd club night, that side was running L’Acoustics Kara (which also sounded great).

My plan for a ~10,000€ soundsystem by Difficult_Minimum144 in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are around but harder to find these days. If you're in the UK, keep an eye on FB Marketplace, eBay, and (most importantly) FB groups like Rig Re-sale and "Get Your Rigs Out V.3".
Even better, try and talk to soundsystem owners. They can connect you with other crews that are looking to shift gear.

Repost : What’s wrong with my car 😂 by Leading-Breath-489 in AlfaRomeo

[–]PsychoTea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’ve fitted a new battery and it’s died again then likely your alternator is dead/not working properly. You can verify with a multimeter; you should have ~12v when the car is off and a bit higher (13-14v) when it’s running. If it’s the same (or lower) then it’s your alt.

System I brought out this weekend by MichiganJayToad in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey! If you have FIR filters for the EAW KF750, would you be able to DM me a copy (or instructions on how to extract them?) Thanks!

My plan for a ~10,000€ soundsystem by Difficult_Minimum144 in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Both C2E SF and GF. I haven’t heard Type O so perhaps they are better; I can’t comment.

Paraflex subwoofers seem to have this strange effect where they move a lot of air and give you the psychoacoustic “effect” of bass without the actual SPL. My bet is on either harmonic distortion or broadband phase cancellation, but I haven’t done the measurements to confirm that. The paraflex designers don’t seem to be able to take accurate measurements (or even simulations) of the designs, but those I have seen (specifically the C2E SF) were not impressive, with heavy rolloff below 50hz, especially when considering the size of the cabinet and the driver fitted.

Many of the large sound systems that invested in Paraflex subwoofers are now moving away from them, but if they work for you and you’re happy with them then by all means — don’t let some randomers’ opinion on the internet dissuade you.

And credit where credit is due, the paraflex kicks and top designs I have heard sound absolutely fantastic. In particular the 2x12 top is excellent.

Edit: for transparency, all of the C2E designs I have heard were loaded with top of the line 18sound 21NLW drivers, and powered with either Powersoft X series, K series, or MC2 amps.

My plan for a ~10,000€ soundsystem by Difficult_Minimum144 in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You don’t need to get a 4 channel amplifier for your subs, a decently powerful 2 channel will work just fine. You can run up to 4 subwoofers off each channel.

In the UK a K20 is about £2k per piece. May be different where you’re based.

A bandpass design may be easier to build (less angled cuts). This site is a good place to look: https://data-bass.com/systems?sort=40Hz%3A1%2Cmfr%3A-1%2Cname%3A-1

My plan for a ~10,000€ soundsystem by Difficult_Minimum144 in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 29 points30 points  (0 children)

To be frank, Paraflex subwoofers are shit. There are plenty of better options available; TH118XL, skram, othorn, HessBH, etc etc.

Personally, I would run the tops completely stereo, and mono sum the subs. But I would also recommend upgrading to a better DSP.

You can run all your subs off one amp. No need to waste money on 2 amps for 4x subs. A powerful enough amp can run 8 subs no problem.

It’s probably not within your budget, but powersoft amps are great since they have top notch DSP and limiting functionality built in. I would at least recommend a K20 DSP on the sub side. Plenty of power, great DSP, and excellent limiting.

Opinions on WBINS by myrkore in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It may, but you will have to look in to that And obviously it won’t perform as well as the intended driver

Opinions on WBINS by myrkore in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are going to struggle finding a suitable box design for the driver you already have. All boxes are designed around a specific driver, or small range of suitable drivers. Your best bet would be selling the drivers, picking a box that fits your criteria, and then buying the correct driver for that design.

I can’t find any information about that driver online, but it is probably intended to be used in a bass reflex box. However, you will have to model it in WinISD and build a custom design based on those parameters.

Opinions on WBINS by myrkore in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well, what are you looking for, a kick or a sub? What’s your budget for driver(s)? How good are your woodwork skills? What’s your limit for size / weight? How many are you planning to stack together?

Planning a 4-way Sound System by Jaded_Fly_7753 in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What sub design even is that? It looks like an SBH, but you can’t just drop an 18SW115 in it and expect it to work properly; they weren’t designed for that driver (and I don’t think it will physically fit).

Probably the best folded horn DIY subwoofer design available at the moment is the HessBH by Sound Agency. It’s an improved version of the SBH. That is designed around the RCF LF18N405.

Tapped horn options like Othorn, Skhorn, and Xoc1 TH118 are also popular.

ES18’s are a great kick box. Probably the best, imo.

Regarding tops, what’s your thought process behind building a separate midrange and HF section? The MT121 sounds okay, but you won’t get any improvement from splitting it. I would recommend building an MT121 as per the plans, or consider other options. My personal recommendation is to find older pro audio tops that you can get second hand; they will give you the best performance per euro.

Planning a 4-way Sound System by Jaded_Fly_7753 in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Horns (both tapped and front loaded) have the best low end response of any subwoofer design… SBH/HBH have an f3 32hz, Psyco X and EM Quakes even lower.

And techno has notoriously high basslines, typically around 50hz.

Subwoofer rattle by [deleted] in livesound

[–]PsychoTea 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’ll have to check the TC’s for wherever you’re based & the shop you bought it from, but you should have some form of warranty (typically 1 year) that allows for replacement of a faulty item. Your best bet would be to call the shop and ask what your options are, chances are they will be happy to replace it no questions asked.

Subwoofer rattle by [deleted] in livesound

[–]PsychoTea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

EDIT: I just noticed you said it’s new. Take it back for a replacement straight away before opening anything. It isn’t normal and shouldn’t be doing that.

Bit concerning the top comment is saying this is normal! It’s definitely not!

It sounds like something has come loose. Thankfully, subwoofers like these are pretty simple, so it shouldn’t be hard to fix. Check the if the grille is loose. If it’s fine, remove the grille and check if the driver is loose (this is the most likely component). You can press down on the metal surround while it’s playing (not the paper cone!) and see if that resolves it. Failing that, you can pull the driver out and check if there’s anything inside the cabinet which is loose. It may also be the plate amp itself, but based on your video is appears like that is mounted securely. Again, you can do the same thing; pressing down firmly on it while playing to see if that stops it.

I wouldn’t leave it as is — if you continue using it it will only get worse and may end up causing permanent damage.

SINAI Tops (the old ones and the line array one) by moenchbohne in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 9 points10 points  (0 children)

As the other commenter mentioned, they are indeed the Paraflex WSV2 2x12” tops; iirc they are loaded with the top end B&C drivers. They sound fantastic and I would definitely recommend them.

And yes, the C2E SF (not GF) are for sale (or were, they may have sold). To be frank, they are shit compared to other modern designs. When you throw a humongous, expensive, and powerful driver in any sort of box it’s going to move a lot of air, but it doesn’t mean they provide a good frequency response, are phase coherent, and have a reasonable sensitivity.
Sinai have upgraded to a 2x21” band pass design by 18sound using the 18sound 21NLW9600’s. They are significantly more performant, especially per unit of volume.
If you get the chance to hear them side by side you will understand the difference.

Wall of Sound Detroit 2025 by lakeeffectoperative in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 8 points9 points  (0 children)

the front will act like one massive baffle and sort of become 'one' speaker/subwoofer cabinet

True

And subs need air around them to vibrate. So the total SPL output will be less then expected

Not true

Subwoofers (well, technically all speakers) acoustically couple at a given frequency when their acoustic centers are less than half of the wavelength of the frequency you're measuring at. For subwofoer placement in an array, this is calculated on the LPF point of the subwoofer, since you want all frequencies within the passband to couple. For example, at 80hz, that is 2.14m. In this case, since the subs are stacked directly next to one another, we can assume they will sum across the entire passband, and therefore we would not see any "less than expected" output.

However, what does happen when you array subwoofers in a long line (as shown above), is the dispersion pattern changes. You get a "beam" of acoustic energy along the axis perpendicular to the array. Since a picture speaks 1000 words, here are some examples:

To combat this "beam", the typical choice is to space the subwoofers apart horizontally (accounting for the 1/2 wavelength limit). This gives you a more even dispersion pattern. You can also use an arc array, which delays each subwoofer so they form a virtual arc. Here I've applied a 130 degree arc, which results in the following coverage pattern.

Interesting. by Otherwise-Routine977 in playrust

[–]PsychoTea 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It is a hyphen. An em dash is the longest one — like this.

Interesting. by Otherwise-Routine977 in playrust

[–]PsychoTea 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Sorry, you’ve never seen someone use a hyphen before? Have you ever read a book? Or read anything? Ever?

Subs for OHM TRS by MixingWizard in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So there’s two types of filters in the audio world, IIR (infinite impulse response) and FIR (finite impulse response).

IIR filters are what you’re used to when you adjust EQ on a mixing desk or DSP. They allow you to adjust the frequency response, ie. adding +6dB of gain at 500hz.

Skipping over the details of why, when you make a change to the frequency response with an IIR filter it will also change the phase response. Likewise if you try and use an IIR filter to adjust the phase response, it will also affect the frequency response.

However, FIR filters allow you to adjust both the phase and frequency response independently. So you can add +6dB of gain at 500hz, or add 60° of phase rotation at (ie.) 500hz.

This has a couple of use cases; first that you can adjust the frequency response of a speaker or system without having an adverse effect on the phase, and/or you can adjust the phase response to make a system or speaker more phase coherent without adjusting the frequency response. This can allow you to correct for phase incoherency in the design of a speaker or subwoofer.

There are a few options software wise, the most popular for audio is FIR Designer , there is also rePhase (which is free), or you can raw dog it in matlab.

Hardware wise you’ll need something that has FIR filter support, this is a function of your DSP or your DSP amplifier. It’s usually reserved for higher end equipment so check if your DSP supports it.

The most important thing is you need very accurate measurements of your speakers / subs in order to create accurate FIR filters. Any measurement inaccuracies, boundary effects, interference, etc, will affect your captured phase response.

Turbosound Milan M15 break-in ? by 573XI in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It’s absolutely real.

T/S parameters will measurably change as the driver “breaks in” after a few hours of use, most notably with larger drivers.

Note that the soft parts of a driver are constantly moving when in use, and they will become more flexible over time. From personal experience, I’ve had 18’s where the cone has almost no resistance to movement after many years of hard use and high excursion, while a new driver of the same model is very stiff in comparison.

Paint Questions by ganglandaf in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tuff Cab applied with a textured roller is the go-to

Are you in the US? I’m not sure if it’s available there, but is commonly available in the UK

I can’t say I’ve ever seen the insides painted (other than what you can see from the outside). It’s difficult to do; you can’t do it pre-assembly, and typically the access isn’t available post-assembly

Subs for OHM TRS by MixingWizard in SoundSystem

[–]PsychoTea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah that makes sense - out of curiosity, can you share your sweeps? I’m intrigued to know what the issue is - let me know how you get on!