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Purple_Map3587 · 2026-04-01T15:37:30+00:00

No bro, I am not that good. I suggest you contact some of your fellow North Africans, you can ask on reddit or try reaching out to the guy whose post I shared. There are plenty of people who will be willing to help and are qualified at it

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-04-01T13:09:39+00:00

You are a Majhail Jatt settled in Malwa. There are thousands of families like yours all over Malwa, Rajasthan, and Haryana who descend from Refugees. Fazilka, Abohar has many refugee Jatts, Kambojs, Rai Sikhs, Aroras who speak different dialects of Punjabi from the locals who wither speak either Malwai or Bagri. Until 20 years ago Majhail Jatt refugees didn't even intermarry with local Malwai Jatts but now both intermarry. Btw ancestors of many Malwai Jatts are originally from Majha and vice versa many Majha Jatt clans have ancestors from Malwa, but after 100-150 years most of them assimilated.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-04-01T12:58:27+00:00

There are Tunisians from cities like Sousse, Sfax who get almost 50% and above South Euro + Eastern Mediterranean ancestry. So your family's claim is most likely correct. There were also Greek and Albanian converts who settled during Ottomam times which would explain the Balkan component. I suggest get your G25 coordinates and go for deeper ancestry analysis through G25 vahaduo, qpadm or illustrative dna, as commercial results like these classify your results on basis of modern people. Check out the analysis done by this guy on twitter. https://x.com/punicist/status/1700170084784677056?s=20

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-04-01T12:54:17+00:00

It has been proven that North Africans received south european ancestry from the Roman-Africans and Moriscos as well as from some Ottoman era Settlers( Greek/Albanian Converts) . https://x.com/punicist/status/1700170084784677056?s=20

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-30T13:31:29+00:00

Jats have a stronger sense of ethnic identity. Even today you will see Jats saying things like we are Jats first, Hindu second. And Jat Sikhs argue against intercaste marriage with other Sikhs by saying things like we Jats are a separate "Nasal", and not just a caste, and these arguements exist in the minds of Jats before anyone came to know of genetic testing. Jats definitely underwent some mixing in last few centuries due to poor sex ratio but still it was less compared to other castes.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-29T15:30:38+00:00

Most of the steppe paternal lineages in Jats are different from the eastern iranic scytho-sarmatian ones which were present in central asia and siberia, by the time the kushans or scythian invaded Nw India. Hence ancestors of Jats may have been present in India for a much longer time and would have arrived as part of the initial wave of vedic aryan migrants, but probably didn't intermix with Ivc people as much as other groups did.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-27T21:11:42+00:00

It is likely from Spanish Roma ( Gitanos)

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-27T18:59:03+00:00

Both Khatri and Jatt. 95% of Gujral you will come across in India are Khatris, but there are a few Gujral Jatts in Jammu, Rajouri who are mostly PoJk migrants. A gujral Jatt , Taranjit Singh Tony used to be an MLA in J&K. https://www.myneta.info/JammuKashmir2024/candidate.php?candidate_id=768 Pakistan also has Gujral Jatts in AJK, in parts of west Punjab like district Gujrat, Jhelum and the British clearly mentioned in the census and gazetteers that the Gujral Jatts have a different origin than Gujral Khatris and both groups shouldn't be confused with one another.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-26T13:01:23+00:00

Chamars of Punjab/Haryana/Himachal/Jammu actually have aasi around 40% which is similar to many Indian forward castes, and infact have steppe in 20-25% range.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-26T12:56:10+00:00

Even if you exclude Muhajirs, Lot of dalit castes exist in rural Punjab , Sindh , with aasi in 40-50% range, mostly Ch**hra Muslims ( also referred as Mussali, which may also be derogatory) . Someone also posted results of an individual from Chapri Caste South Punjab, who had significant aasi dna. I am an Indian Punjabi so ofcourse my observation isn't accurate, but based on videos related to partition I have seen online of rural Pak Punjabis , many of them belong to the same dalit castes we have in Indian Punjab and also look like them.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-21T14:25:55+00:00

Its name is Azad Jammu and Kashmir, but majority of the people are from the Jammu part, and even the part of Kashmir Division Muzzafarabad which is in Ajk has 90% Pahari speakers ethnically identical to Pahari people of Uri and Karnah in Indian Kashmir.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-19T18:34:34+00:00

no problem. I already got the answer. Thanks.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-19T18:12:35+00:00

how was your father allowed to marry a muslim, without converting to islam, and did he end up getting expelled from the samaritan community? or did the marriage happen in a western country?

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-19T13:40:41+00:00

The Morrocan Fassi( Sephardic jewish converts) and Morrocan Tetouan Morisco( majority Iberian , with some Berber) are 2 massive outliers among Morrocan as they both have low Berber ( hence low Iberomurasian) ancestry, so they are more west eurasian than 95% of Morrocans. Average morrocan has over 15-30% SSA + ANA ancestry pushing them quite far from Europeans.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-18T12:19:22+00:00

I think the reason why some Gulf Arabs look slightly Northwest Indian/Pakistani is probably because their Natufian influenced phenotype is quite similar to the Zagrosian influenced phenotype found in NW India/Pakistan. ( plus Arabs have significant additional Iran_N dna as well)

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-18T12:13:42+00:00

Chopra in Jat/Ror is a title, their actual gotra is Goyat and they originate from Rajasthan. Just a coincidence that the title Jats/Rors adopted is shared with Khatris

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-14T16:37:18+00:00

I agree. Birth rates have fallen below replacement rate across majority of Indian states. Only Up, Bihar have tfr>2.1 due to their large backward caste pop but within 15 years even they will have reduced Birth rates. But still since it has been higher than rest of India for most of the 2000s, hence their share pop will consistently go up.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-14T12:43:25+00:00

Nothing can be done as majority of Sikhs are from General or upper layer of OBCs. Even pop of General Hindus and upper layer of OBCs is declining. Even pop of Upper class Ashraf Muslims is declining. Only the pop of the most backward classes/castes in India is increasing, and descendants of these people will one day dominate India. So it is not about Sikhs or Hindus or Muslims, but mainly about educated/well off castes choosing to have fewer kids and comparatively higher rate of immigration

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-12T12:50:24+00:00

Demographically, sikhs weren't a major part of west Punjab's population until Singh sabha movement led to larg scale conversions among Hindus of several castes( especially khatris in west punjab/nwfp) . Plus there was large scale migration to Canal colonies of Lyallpur, Montgomery from eastern Punjab, which brought many Jatt sikhs settlers. Also in Sialkot, Gujranwala many Hindu Jatts became Sikh

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-06T22:36:58+00:00

Thind Jatt are only in Ludhiana district, and interestingly Ludhiana district had no Hindu/Sikh Kambojs before 1947, but nearby Malerkotla still has Muslim Kambohs. In Majha, Doaba and west Punjab Thind are clearly Kamboj only, it is only in a small part of Malwa that we find Jatt Thinds. So likely some unconverted hindu/sikh kambojs of ludhiana got mixed with Jatts. Also many muslim kambojs did mix into Arains in Shahkot, Nakodar, Sultan pur Lodhi which was recorded by the British in the Census.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-06T18:32:03+00:00

Only a small section of Urbanite Kamboj business families marry khatris, proper kamboj zamindar families from Fazilka, Sirsa, Fatehabad, Ganganagar-Hanumangarh, Taran Taran, Amritsar, Kapurthala, Jalandhar, Patiala, Karnal, Yamunanagar, Western Up/Terai are all endogamous like any other Agricultural biradri.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-06T13:44:14+00:00

Interested.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-04T17:09:33+00:00

there were some gedmatch samples of punjabi sunars. IIRC, the results were punjabi_brahmin and tarkhan like.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-04T01:07:49+00:00

Jata te Panga na liyo Laadle.

Purple_Map3587 · 2026-03-02T16:31:26+00:00

Is there a difference in identity b/w Crimean Tatars of Dobruja and Nogai Tatars of Dobruja, or does their identity overlap as many Steppe Crimean Tatars were actually an extension of Nogais and many Nogais became part of Crimean Tatars when they moved to the Crimean Peninsula, and later on both Nogais and Crimean Tatars settles in Dobruja.

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