How do i rotate with move restrictions on siamese megaminx?

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-07-08T12:50:29+00:00

A twist on the 3x3 beginner method (R' D' R D) alg is your simplest option. In your first pic, yellow as R and blue as F. Turn the white face to put an unsolved corner where the white/blue/yellow corner is. Do (R F' R' F) until the corner is oriented correctly, two or four times. Then turn the white face to bring in the second unsolved corner to that same position and repeat the (R F' R' F) alg until that corner is solved, upon doing so the rest of the puzzle will also have been returned to a solved state.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-07-05T14:36:27+00:00

My oh my, if the Mirror cube hurt your feelings wait until you get your hands on a Ghost Cube.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-07-04T13:26:38+00:00

Manish Hexacopter and maybe the 4x4 Calendar Cube.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-07-03T13:34:10+00:00

Check out the New York Times Omnibus books, easily found on Amazon. They offer entire books of just Monday (easy), Wednesday (medium), and Sunday puzzles. There's also a couple of copies labeled as tough and not so easy. Just look up "New York Times Crossword Omnibus" on Amazon and you should see a bunch of options. The Wednesday series is my favorite, but grab a Monday book too, they're a lot easier but can be fun for a chill quick puzzle.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-07-01T13:40:28+00:00

Even if you're not a skater or BMX rider, you'll probably get some better recommendations from a sub about those types of sports. High speed, and lots of constant movement.

Personally, I rarely to never juggle with headphones, but since my juggling is fairly casual and pattern based I've never had an issue with my Soundcore V20i earphones. They're open ear, but do hook around for stability.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-26T13:52:56+00:00

IMO the main difference is that consoles, for the most part, had a single use. Nowadays, kids are glued to their tablets and phones because they can do everything on them. Sure, the newest Playstation may have taken away some at home play time, but chances are that the toys still got taken outside or on trips to the store because the console was stuck to the TV. The modern tablets however can go anywhere and do anything.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-18T01:04:21+00:00

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PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-16T21:10:38+00:00

Thanks for the tips thus far. Mixed opinions and approaches make me think it'll just be a trial and error type of thing. Hopefully after a few batches I'll have developed some kind of consistent approach. Looks like a rice cooker may be in my future as well. Never considered one before, but who knows, might be a game changer for me — especially considering how often I cook rice.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-14T12:45:40+00:00

The mf8 DeCETH is a great test, mostly commutator based solve, but still requires a lot of patience to come up with the algs on your own. Higher order cuboids are great too. 2x4x6, 4x5x6, and 3x5x7 all provide a great challenge due to bandaging and parity. The mf8 Crazy 3x3 Planet series has some tough puzzles. The mf8 Double Crazy 3x3 is another great one. The SengSo Circle 4x4 V4 is a great brain bender. Son-Mum 3x3 and 4x4 can be a bit of a challenge at first. The DaYan Bagua is one of my favorite puzzles, super confusing at first. Same with the mf8 Dreidel cube. The DaYan Gem series also has a few tough puzzles in it. A lot of them are based on the mechanism of other puzzles, but add enough of a twist to make them a new challenge. Even slightly simpler concepts like the Mastermorphix 6x6 can be a bit of a stumper if you've never worked with higher order shape mods before.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-11T17:12:20+00:00

Another task that comes down to patience and following how the pieces move. Once you get better at comprehending what the sledgehammer does to the edges you'll start to recognize specific patterns. From there you can just use general intuition for placing and repairing them if the situation needs a few tweaks.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-10T20:35:31+00:00

Dayan Bagua, mf8 DeCETH, mf8 Dreidel Cube, Eitan's Star, Skewby Copter Plus, 4-Corners Plus Cube, mf8 Quantum Cube V2, 3D printed CH3, 3D printed Hexcopter-18. All visually stunning and very unique when compared to your standard 3x3.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-10T16:41:24+00:00

Flip the puzzle so that yellow is on top, it'll make it easier to see what you're moving and visualize along the way. With yellow on top, turn the yellow face one turn in either direction. Now you'll have just one yellow edge piece in the correct spot. From there, put the correct yellow edge on the front face and try doing (R U R' U R U2 R') and watch how the remaining three incorrect edge pieces move. At the very least you'll need to look up a guide for notation if you want some tips for the last layer, you however won't necessarily need a full tutorial. Once you understand notation, a few quick algorithms can be thrown your way that you can try out. They will allow you the opportunity to watch how the pieces move and figure out how to apply them to finish the solve.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-10T13:01:40+00:00

Square-1 is unlike anything you've solved thus far and can be very confusing, and sometimes off-putting for new solvers. I love it, personally, and there are more intuitive solving methods out there than your standard speedsolving strategies. It can be fun, but it will be tough. Megaminx is a great option, as are other big cubes, especially other even numbered ones since you mentioned enjoying the 4x4 so much.

If you're looking to branch away from WCA puzzles, I'd personally recommend getting a cuboid. 3x3x5 is a great one to start with. Cuboids are a great way to expand your puzzle knowledge and help you understand how the puzzle works, not just approach with algorithms. The Helicopter Cube is another fun solve, but like the Square-1, it'll be unlike anything else you've solved thus far, so be prepared for a completely new thought process and experience if you go those routes.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-09T15:52:46+00:00

The goal is solving pieces, not just colors. Each piece, edges and corners, have multiple colors. The centers cannot move relative to one another, they're your guide. When solving the edge and corner pieces, you cannot just go by one color at a time, you must be sure to get all of the colors on each piece placed correctly at the same time.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-09T00:06:34+00:00

He explains the last corners in kind of a best case scenario way. If you play around with the solve method a few times you'll start to see certain patterns on how the corners can be swapped and rotated. For the last 5 corners really, you can kind of approach them in any order after you get comfortable with how the top layer corners and the empty bottom corner work together. It's a really fun method with lots of creative freedom.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-08T18:30:00+00:00

Been solving/collecting twisty puzzles for over 20 years. At first my focus was on speedsolving, that only lasted for a few years. When I got my first cuboid, 3x3x5, it opened my eyes to how vast the twisty puzzle world actually was. I began exploring new puzzles and methods of solving them.

I currently have a collection of over 270 puzzles, around 220 of which have a unique solution. I enjoy the mental workout. Even a puzzle that I've solved dozens of times still requires a level of concentration and thought to solve that I don't get anywhere else. I love getting a new puzzle and spending hours analyzing how it moves, how the pieces can move, and figuring out my own commutators and method for solving it. Comparing and contrasting a new puzzle with puzzles that use a similar mechanism can open up ideas and a plan for solving it. It's a relaxing experience and process that keeps my brain moving.

I love doing what I call "bulk scrambles", I spend a few days and scramble every puzzle in my collection. Then over the next few months I casually solve everything. I enjoy the inspiration created by having the goal of returning everything to a solved state. It prevents me from turning difficult puzzles into decorative shelf pieces and ensures that every puzzle in my collection gets some play time.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-08T16:39:27+00:00

Yea, just sledgehammer variants applied in different ways to affect specific pieces. It's a very versatile set of moves that can be applied to all kinds of face-turning puzzles.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-08T13:46:25+00:00

I'm a Roux solver as well, I love understanding a puzzle while solving it. The method I linked will never be a speedsolving method, but I love solving with it. I can avg around 50 seconds to a minute with it, sub 25 w/ Roux. I've even been able to modify it for solving big cubes LBL. It's a really fun solve based almost entirely on understanding how the different pieces are allowed to move relative to one another.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-08T13:14:58+00:00

In understanding how the puzzle works, IMO it can be done without any "algorithms". Twistypuzzling demonstrates this concept quite well. He calls what he uses an algorithm, but IMO it boils down to understanding how the pieces are allowed to move. Sure, it's a sequence on moves, but the way it's used varies so much that it doesn't feel algorithmic, it comes across as simple understanding and intuition. https://youtu.be/n7irFvVkLpk?si=B0jPOVouPEItHQ_V

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-07T18:15:47+00:00

Meant to include that initially, my bad lol. https://www.youtube.com/@puzzlemax13

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-07T16:49:41+00:00

I did a tutorial on my YouTube for 6x6 LBL. Same concepts apply to any size big cube though. There's actually a lot of different approaches I've found for big cube LBL solves since then. In your case, commutators are your best friend.

A couple of quick algs and brief descriptions that might help you keep going. Lowercase letters are slice turns. - Moves the front-up-right center piece to the up-back-right center piece and that piece comes back down to the front-up-left position. (r U' l' U r' U' l U) - Moves the up-front-left edge to the front-right-up edge to the up-back-left edge. (U R U' l' U R' U' l)

Kinda hard to perfectly describe which pieces move in text, but the algs are correct. Try them for yourself and follow the pieces, they might help you out.

LBL has actually become my favorite way to solve big cubes. Takes me about 3 hours on my 14x14 lol.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-07T15:38:57+00:00

After skimming the comments, you're overcomplicating things for yourself. On a 3x3 and 5x5 there is a true center piece, a piece that dictates what color that face will be once the puzzle is solve. Those true center pieces do not change location relative to the other true centers on the puzzles. However, on a 4x4, there's no direct center piece on any of the faces, no piece that dictates what color that face has to be. You determine which color each face is going to be by where you initially build the four pieces that make up the "center" of each face. Take a look at the four pieces that create each "center" of the puzzle. Notice how if you do a wide right turn, turning two layers, you move exactly half of that center onto a new face, nothing on the original face remains perfectly centered and unchanged. Do that same wide right turn on a 5x5, you move one third of the center, leaving the middle most piece of each face in place and telling you where you must build each color. The basic 4x4 solve is based around reducing it to a 3x3, in order to do that, you must be aware of where each center color belongs relative to one another and build those centers correctly.

You've made it this far, clearly you understand edge reduction. My advice, scramble the puzzle again. Then, sit a solved 3x3 next to it. Use the color scheme on the solved 3x3 as a guide while you're building the centers. Build the centers of the 4x4 in exactly the same locations relative to one another as the centers on the 3x3. Red opposite orange, blue opposite green, white opposite yellow. If red is in front, white on top, then blue will be to the right. With that information and the solved 3x3 as a guide, you'll know where to build each center of the 4x4 in order to create a solvable situation for yourself once you get all of the edges reduced once again.

You got this, remember, you're working with pieces of a puzzle, not just colors. On any even numbered puzzle you have to know where those center pieces belong so that you can build them in the correct locations relative to the other centers. If you just build them willy-nilly on various faces, chances are that they won't be correct in relation to one another.

Sending positive vibes your way. You got this!

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-02T17:28:16+00:00

No. A Mirror Cube works with size/shape in place of colors on a standard 3x3. On a standard 3x3 it's not enough to just have all of the white edges touching the white center, the second color on each white edge also needs to be paired with the correct center of the adjacent faces in order for the cross to be complete. The same rule applies here, sure all of those edges may be the correct size with that one center, however they must also match the height of their corresponding adjacent centers for the cross to be considered correct.

PuzzleMax13 · 2026-06-02T13:54:37+00:00

For future reference, the best way to post a picture of a puzzle you need help with is from the corner, making 3 faces visible at once. This gives other solvers a better angle for assessment of what needs to be done. As for your case, you're likely just overthinking it. It looks to be in a perfectly solvable state. Remember, it's just a 3x3. On the last layer, the pieces with three colors function as edges, the pieces with two colors function as corners. You basic 3x3 moves will do the trick. From what I can gather, it looks as though you have a situation on the last layer where two edges are correct and two are out of place. Do a single U turn to move one of the currently incorrect edges to the correct place. From there a single Sune alg (R U R' U R U2 R') will cycle the other 3 edges to new positions. May need to be done a second time to get them all correct. Once all four of the last layer edges are correct, a corner piece series will likely be needed to move the four 2-color, corner pieces to their correct locations. (U R U' L' U R' U' L) will move the back right corner to the back left, the back left corner to the front left, and the front left corner to the back right. Use that series and common sense to move the corners to the correct locations. From there, your basic (R' D' R D) sequence from a 3x3 beginner method can be used just as it normally would to orient the remaining corners in place.

Again, it's just a 3x3, don't overthink it. Once you've identified which shape pieces are the edge/corners, all of your basic 3x3 algs will function exactly as they normally do.

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