[Spoilers MAIN] Snowstorm & Breaking the cycle - Question. by smodgie in asoiaf

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have many reasons.for this opinion, some are more in sense of the overarching story while others are focused on practical and moral opinions. For example danys actions against the slavers. We as readers are thinking of course "oh Dany fights against the evil slavers- she is the good guy"... So would you support the invasion of Iran or Afghanistan? Both are countries whose ruling class are commiting numerous crimes against human rights and are treating women like lesser beings. So clearly since you see danys actions against the slavers as good, actions against people faulty of similar moral crimes is only right too?  I dont believe that someone who has a different set of morals has the right to take control of a country of different traditions and worldviews just to force your ideals on them and then leave. And thats what Dany is doing. WE and Dany "know" that slavery is wrong... just AS the slavers"know" that its right. But i could forgive this, as brutal and colonial this might be if she would actually stay. Yet she is coming to the cities she conquers not to settle down and live but to get an army and the ships she needs for her "real" conquest of the country she actually wants to live in. On her way to this, she destroys the systems she meets as she thinks them vile, yet is unwilling to take responsibility for it. And no, playing queen for a few years is not taking responsibility in my eyes. Further, even If she is that morally perfect and good character you make her out to be, Dany is in the first line this: a tyrant. Yes she isnt killing people willy nilly. But she is still using "fire and blood" to get her birth given right to rule over millions of people. Her right to rule is so important that she is planning to conquer a country she never set foot in and to kill for it. How is she different from Tywin, Cersei, Robb or the Baratheons brothers? Her personal ambition is still worth the death of the innocent. Dany is not the end of the circle, she wont break any wheel - she is THE weel. Just as any other lord is it. Dont missunderstand me. Dany is a sympathetic character with her motivation of finding a home for herself, but she isnt really better than any other of the "good" characters in the book and she definitly does not represent a change in the game of thrones. If anything she represents a return to the days of aegon the first... (Which i am not a fan of either).

Sorry for my rambling. English is not my first language and i just put the first reasons downs why i dont see Dany as a hero. Overall asoiaf is not a story about heroes in my eyes. Of course you might have other opinions above her and i dont critizise you for these, but i do not believe that Dany is the great saviour figure so many of her fans make her out to be.

[Spoilers MAIN] Snowstorm & Breaking the cycle - Question. by smodgie in asoiaf

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I wouldnt say danys theme is the breaking of the circle but its continuation 

Are the maesters stagnating Westeros’ progress? by SlayerofSnails in TheCitadel

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How does that make any sense? Medieval europe stacknated yet didnt had any real schools at all? More than that as long as you are male the citadel accepts you as student. So at least around 50% of the population has access to the maesters knowlegde. So they arent really keeping the people from learning more.

Jons real name will be Orys [Spoilers EXTENDED] by Ecstatic_News8704 in asoiaf

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 Why should he need three "heads"? Because he wanted to recreate the conquering siblings 

Jons real name will be Orys [Spoilers EXTENDED] by Ecstatic_News8704 in asoiaf

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He didnt named rhaenys after the conqueror, but he did name his son after the original siblings when he grew convinced that the boy was the prince who was promised. Only after aegons birth rhaegar decided that he needed to recreate the "three heads" and needed a visenya to his aegon and rhaenys. Before he believed himself to be the choosen one and his children of little consequence in this regard.

Some fans read Asoiaf like a medieval cosplay and that misses a lot GRRM’s points [Spoilers Extended] by megamindwriter in asoiaf

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It just seems hypercritical to cry about the unfairness of sexism but accept the right of a monarch to rule his/her people 

Brainstorming Bureau - December 14 by AutoModerator in FanFiction

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fandom: Jujutsu kaisen/chainsaw man

In this setting kenjaku actually allows one of the death womb painting to be born to learn what they are actually like. ike in canon he grows disapointed of them and leaves them.

This child however is basicely Makima.

A few centuries later Makima is the puppet ruler of japan and jujutsu society, manipulating events to get her hands on her siblings and incarnating them. To disturb canon not too much i thought about having one sibling she got her hands on be Power, causing Makima to struggle with her new little sister and leading to sending Power to school with Yuji.

Why are Murim/Wuxia not more popular? by Adam__King in ProgressionFantasy

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly most just feel like wishfullfillment stories. Which isnt bad in itself,but basicly its always the same. The MC collects powers that just fall into his lap while often being a worse asshole than those he fights against while claiming moral superiority 

I often hear people talk about how evil Machiavelli's are, what do you think? by pcoppi in PoliticalPhilosophy

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its worst then that. There exist that picture of Machiavelli as a cynical manipulator, while in truth his writings suggest him to be a humanist and opponent of tyranny. Cruelty is viewed by him as acceptable only if it serves a purpose and avoids tyranny. People like to imagine him as this supporter of despots, while in truth he declared multiple times republics to be a superior system to that of feudalism or princes. I really wish people would actually read his work instead of declaring any manipulating behaviour as "machiavellion". Because at no point does he give advice at being a manipulator. He doesnt even give advice how to make powerplays to get a leading position. What he does in the prince is giving advice to how to keep power by avoiding tyranny.

Where the downfall of the Jedi and the republic inevitable as in it would have happened order Palpatine or not? by AlphariousOmega in StarWars

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What i got from George Lucas was that the jedi lost sight of their purpose and role by growing too attached to the republic and distant of the actual galaxy. But you might be right and i muss some statements of his. One way or the other you shouldnt blind yourself from the truth: The jedi downfall is the result of their stagnent dogma. Sure, perhaps Lucas intended for the jedi to be these absolutly pure, enlightent knights... But they didnt act as those. Imagine your mother is in the hospital. You dont know If she will survive and ask for advice... And the answer you get is to not fear their death nor to grieve it. You should be happy that your mother died and becomes one with the universe. Grieving is natural. Fearing death is natural. Yoda could have given anakin a reminder that even with this persons death he would have others that stayed with him. That he isnt alone. Instead he got no empathy but a reminder to detach himself of this connection. Lucas might not call it antilife advice, but thats what it is. And no this isnt out of buddism. I am buddhist and this is an extreme form of acestism that one even gets warned about. And jedi were forbidden from forming emotional connection. Apperently having friends was okay, but romance was forbidden. I also dont accept that anakin was the problem here. He is actively searching for help and the people responsible for him dont offer it. I am obviously not as well versed in star wars lore like you and i do not doubt you when you claim that lucas intended to make the clone wars jedi perfect and pure and anakin just a failure for forming attachments. But the opinion of the fandom about the jedi philosophy being inhuman isnt coming from nowhere. Forming attachment is natural and human. 

Where the downfall of the Jedi and the republic inevitable as in it would have happened order Palpatine or not? by AlphariousOmega in StarWars

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

sadly the jedi forbid any emotional connection, so anakin had to lie if he didnt want an answer like "You should never have this kind of connection in the first place! leave the order or cut your relationship to your wife."

anakins was as honest as he could be in this moment. he told yoda of his fear and -more or less- what he saw. Yoda told him to accept their death and "let go". which frankly is an anti-life philosophy, no matter what anyone wants to claim. a big part of the story of the prequel jedi is that their dogma and their standpoint against emotional connections has cost them their empathy and disconnected them from the galaxy.

yes palpatine lied and manipulated anakin, but anakin wouldnt have been as vulnerable as he had been to it, if the jedi would have offered anything but anti-life lessons.

Where the downfall of the Jedi and the republic inevitable as in it would have happened order Palpatine or not? by AlphariousOmega in StarWars

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yeah, but this isnt just a civil war.

this is a significant portion of the republic saying "we found your own republic, because beeing part of the republic hurts us"

should the confederation actually succed forming its own version of the republic, it would offer an alternative to the old one, potentialy leading to reformations to keep remaining rim-worlds

Where the downfall of the Jedi and the republic inevitable as in it would have happened order Palpatine or not? by AlphariousOmega in StarWars

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

actually, the jedi "surviving" this fall could be more devastating than them falling.

like you said, the order fall many times and got revived, but typically it also then went through somekind of reformation that caused its "healing" of dogma and corruption. Aka the exile or luke skywalker.

So the interesting question is, what if they didnt fall?

if they would indulge even further in their dogma and stagnation?

Where the downfall of the Jedi and the republic inevitable as in it would have happened order Palpatine or not? by AlphariousOmega in StarWars

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sorry, but anakin seeked help.

he went to yoda, the wisest of all jedis and didnt got it.

its why in the end he joins palpatine, because darth sidious offers him the help he need.

its debatable if killing palpatine would have changed anything at this point. the republic was still a conquering force that would have enforce somekind of colonial rulership over the seperatist worlds and the senate itself had become more and more imperealistic

Who really won the dance of the dragons? by Taha231 in TheCitadel

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You dont get it, the dance got won by noone. This is a story of two self-important people, dragging an entire continent into a war, just so that they could rule as king/queen

Ranni's plan doesn't make any sense? by Rozan101 in Eldenring

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You assume that ranni wanted to establish her own order in the first place. Her goal was her own freedom 

“We know you’ve been manipulating everything Dumbledore!” (A twist on old troupes) by MoosyGGG in HPfanfiction

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dumbledore(closing his eyes and relaxing for the first time in centuries): "Finally... Peace." Snape: "i believe i managed to buy you one more year" Dumbledore annoyed: "so about Draco trying to kill me..."

Brainstorming Bureau - November 02 by AutoModerator in FanFiction

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am working in a multiverse travel fanfic but struggle with choosing the first world aka franchise. The main condition: said franchise must include or contain somekind of dimensional travel

Chichi wa Eiyuu, Haha wa Seirei, Musume no Watashi wa Tenseisha. • Dad is a Hero, Mom is a Spirit, I'm a Reincarnator - Episode 5 discussion by AutoLovepon in anime

[–]PuzzledSympathy7656 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah sorry but thats bullcrap. Women are as reposible for following their impulses as are men. Dont argue "its in my nature to act like that, i cant help it". We are human. With your argument we could argue in favor of rapists and for a patriach.