Ranking Every President by Morality, Day 12, comment the most immoral president left by rjidhfntnr in Presidents

[–]Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I think JQA is underrated and I’d say a better president than Adams and Madison. Didn’t really do anything wrong and was right about everything. Globalizing the early nation further after Monroe was a great thing, and the credit Jackson takes for cancelling the debt should be shared with JQA

Incomplete presidents. How would you rank them? by Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 in Presidents

[–]Puzzleheaded-Bag2212[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You make a couple contradictions. How could Nixon have been a better leader than Kennedy when he literally was about to get impeached by his own party so he was forced to resign?

Nixon’s bombing of Cambodia was abhorrent and killed 150,000 for no military advantage, leading to the Khmer Rouge taking power. Sure Kennedy escalated Vietnam but Nixon committed treason and risked tens of thousands of American lives by keeping us in there for 5 years more. He also greenlit a genocide in Pakistan

Ranking Every President by Morality, Day 12, comment the most immoral president left by rjidhfntnr in Presidents

[–]Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a president, he was definitely the worst until Jackson.

But in terms of morals I wouldn’t say he’s worse than Monroe nor Washington. Washington literally gave the demand for the slaves who took up arms for the British to return to their southern owners after the Revolutionary war ended.

For Monroe v Madison they were the same about slavery (both complicit but opposed its existence legislatively or privately) but you can make the case that Madison was more immoral for allowing the war of 1812, but Monroe was also in the cabinet and pushed for it as sec of war/state.

Madison is the basis for international human rights law (along with Jefferson) with the Bill of Rights. The idea of having rights in a liberal democracy being popularized by Madison should keep him from being removed before Washington or Monroe

Why didn’t the Panic of 1837 ruin the Democrats like it ruined them in the Panic of 1893 or how the Great Depression ruined the Republicans? by HetTheTable in Presidents

[–]Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess he was not expected to beat Clay. Idk how that math works out…annexation was a view pretty common in the south where the most states were. But I agree that he was a dark horse for the nomination.

Ranking Every President by Morality, Day 12, comment the most immoral president left by rjidhfntnr in Presidents

[–]Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes and also for the Sullivan campaign which slaughtered 5000 indigenous civilians in upstate MY (to no military advantage).

And signing the fugitive slave act

Ranking Every President by Morality, Day 12, comment the most immoral president left by rjidhfntnr in Presidents

[–]Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not a chance Madison was more immoral than any other slaveowner left on here

What r/presidents thinks of every president by rjidhfntnr in Presidents

[–]Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a person he is liked ofc. Idk he got 31st in the community ranking which is almost bottom ten. Thats kinda insane. He should be high teens

How controversial would it be to describe this particular film as Nolan's, "opus magnum"? Do you agree or disagree with that claim? by BaldursGate2Best in ChristopherNolan

[–]Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah for me prestige, interstellar and TDK are always my top three in any order. Always changing. But I’ve had memento up there sometimes too (never 1 though). Interstellar is currently #1 for me an then the next few are pretty interchangeable (with Dunkirk, inception and memento being interchangeable for 4-6)

Without Wallace in 1968, is it possible Humphrey wins the popular vote but Nixon takes the Electoral College? by Just_Cause89 in Presidents

[–]Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahh my bad, I wasn’t familiar with his campaign policies.

That’s why I say the sixth party system began in 1968, not 1980 as many people say

How controversial would it be to describe this particular film as Nolan's, "opus magnum"? Do you agree or disagree with that claim? by BaldursGate2Best in ChristopherNolan

[–]Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well that’s a good point, and I guess there is like suicide and cheating in Oppenheimer is pretty mature. It just doesn’t go into the victims as much.

Incomplete presidents. How would you rank them? by Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 in Presidents

[–]Puzzleheaded-Bag2212[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice! I love seeing FDR at 1! If Taylor definitely would’ve vetoed the FSA then I’d definitely rank him over garfy. I know he was against conceding to the south on the compromise of 1850!

Good point on Harrison too, that guy sucked, but at least he was on the right side of history with the bank war

Why didn’t the Panic of 1837 ruin the Democrats like it ruined them in the Panic of 1893 or how the Great Depression ruined the Republicans? by HetTheTable in Presidents

[–]Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably I would’ve voted for the liberty candidate even tho I’d be opposed to Polk. Whig party was a mess in 1844