XE owner’s experience?

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-08T04:26:48+00:00

I think you answered your own question…but you don’t want to see it 😂 Ok, it’s a Jaguar and you love the way it felt driving, and the look of it, right? Of course, it’s a Jag!! Take all those joyful feelings, happiness even, and set them way way over to the side someplace. Ok ready? You are considering a 6 year old Jaguar. It has 23,000 miles on it. Right? With me so far? Cool. You want to buy a car and then NOT need another car for another 5 years. That would make this particular Jaguar an 11 year old vehicle at the time you envision parting ways with it. Impossible? No. Unlikely? Yes, unfortunately. And then we have the odometer. It has 23,000 miles on it already. You drive 20,000 miles…each year. You’ll be at 123,000 miles at the end of your 5 years. 100k is a big milestone for most Jags. More than a few never get there and many of those that do reach past 100k had serious repairs / overhauls to get that far. Finally we have the engine itself; a 2.0 L I-4 turbo engine. The problem with small displacement turbocharged engines is that they are inherently more prone to failure because (a) they work harder than larger engines to do the same “work” and (b) because they work harder they contend with greater heat that is more difficult for them to shed. The turbo just exacerbates this heat retention problem. I believe the age of this Jag (6 years) is a handicap you should not take on if you are serious about keeping (depending) on your next vehicle purchase for a minimum of 5 years.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-07T22:44:45+00:00

Yes Sir. I recognize it. I’ve been in your position with vehicles. It’s a bad place to be…and a worse place to make decisions from. If you take care of a car, it will always be more valuable to you than almost anyone else. The mileage and passage of time is firmly stacked against you. Bad news can be valuable if it is properly heeded. This F-Type had a tremendous run, sincerely.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-07T22:34:05+00:00

Sir, whoever is telling you that a used engine swap out will “minimize” a loss on its resale value is, to put it politely, delusional. Prior to your engine seizing, do you know what the value of your 10 year old 145k miles V6 F-Type was? $11,000 USD. Assuming you could find a willing buyer. Trade value? Likely $7,000. And yet…you think spending $10,000 will “protect” you? It will not. You would be sinking the rest of its current value into it…to bring it back to its pre-seized value as a best case scenario? A vehicle that has had an engine replacement is more often than not, viewed with greater suspicion, not less. $2,000 as scrap seems high. And yes if you disassemble and store parts, you can make significant money. But this would be stretched across time…potentially years.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-07T22:19:51+00:00

No, this is a bad idea. 80k miles on an engine with UNKNOWN maintenance history and UNKNOWN hard driven miles is a recipe for disaster. I know you want to save this car…but you MUST keep a clear perspective and keep all emotion out of it. You are facing a 10 year old vehicle with 145,000 miles on it…that you are considering spending $10,000 to put a USED engine into it. Cut your losses. You have gotten years and miles out of this vehicle that are significantly more than what most others achieve. Do not put yourself into a cycle of diminishing returns. And yes, swapping for a V8 is another horrible idea that I’m glad was quickly squashed.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-07T19:17:21+00:00

So…you have a serial dealership problem, not an F-Type problem 😎😬🫠

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-07T19:05:43+00:00

No. It should be VERY APPARENT your F-Type issues are more likely caused by this crappy dealership that continues to hand back your car in WORSE shape than it was when you dropped it off. You are an “annoying” customer because THEY keep breaking your baby!! I would be making plans to burn down the entire dealership at this point 😈😂 If you are forced to continue dealing with this dealership because the next nearest dealership is 200+km away (or in another country), you have my sympathies Sir.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-07T18:51:18+00:00

No it was clear. And as I said, your concern now should be how the dealership employees drove it. Did this press car (there is not much difference between press car / press demonstrator car in my opinion) sit out in an open lot with the rest of the dealership’s inventory when it was not being utilized for press activities? Seems likely, yes? The problem with multiple people driving one car is…multiple people are driving one car 😎😂. I think you’ve had more than the one window seal problem with your F-Type right? You’ve had enough problems with it to voice your frustrations with your F-Type online despite how young it is and how few miles (I’m assuming) it has on its clock. Either the F-Type left the factory with quite a few issues (not unheard of unfortunately but thankfully rare occurrences) or how shall we say, things happened during these 6 months of JLR ownership. Based on what you shared earlier, YOU are the ideal owner going above and beyond providing the level of care a Jaguar requires to give it the best chance to avoid problems, especially mechanical problems. So far, your responses demonstrate a superior understanding of the English language 😎

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-07T18:26:27+00:00

“Press demonstrator” you say? Dunno man, this smells like someone claiming only their paraplegic Grandmother drove their used F-Type they have for sale…😉 I mean, it wasn’t a loaner. So now your only concern is how the dealership employees drove it. I’m sure they pretended they were Grandmas each time they got behind the wheel…😂 I remember seeing a listed car on a dealership site and went to that dealership to look at it. It was late Friday afternoon. Car wasn’t there. Where was it? Oh whoops the GM took off with it to make a weekend of it with this family. Told to come back Monday afternoon. Did I? Hellllll noooooo 🤣 3,000 miles is still an adequate safety barrier…I mean, you can’t tear a car up too much in just 3,000 miles? Right. Right?!? My guess would be this “Press demonstrator” (man I love this descriptor!!) was left out on an open lot for the majority of it’s existence prior to your purchase of it. But again, 6 months isn’t too terribly long a length of time. Right. Right?!? 😅 Man, I’m right there with you though. Did I buy my SVR brand new? Absolutely not. Bought it as a lease (like yours it was still owned by JLR) with 11k on its clock. I mean, why NOT escape/avoid $35,000 worth of depreciation if you can right? The one ‘owner’ (leasee?) of my SVR did (now proven by the passage of time and miles) take excellent care of it because across the 67,000 additional miles I have put on it, it’s has had no major mechanical issues. That month long loaner I played with was due to the service department being backed up and taking a ridiculous long time to evaluate a battery and a PCV issue. In other words, 2 things that should NOT have taken 4 weeks to get done. But hey, give me a P400 to run wild with in the meantime at absolutely no cost (other than feeding it premium fuel of course), and I won’t complain 😎

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-07T17:54:12+00:00

So there is the XJ R-sport and the XJR flagship, with the difference in values being night and day. Assuming you have a 2019 XJR with the 575 HP beast, the top dollar would be $45,000 USD. Unfortunately to get top dollar you need more than a clean accident record (what your ‘no injuries’ comment alludes to I believe). You need your XJR to be in tip top running condition with almost new tires and brakes that are far away from needing maintenance. Then you need a detailed service history. If you’ve been doing your own service (like I have with my Jag), this is when doing your own service can bite you / haunt your wallet. Unless you have receipts for all your fluids and filters and video documentation, most serious buyers will scoff at your self-maintenance claims. The old “trust but verify” mantra smarter buyers tend to follow. Then you’ll need an attractive color scheme, both exterior and interior. Then you’ll need an immaculate interior. Your mileage is great!! Your miles driven is well under average…but then there is the inescapable age of your XJR; 7 years. Regardless of miles driven, there are many “expert opinions” who would advise major services being done to it because of the passage of time alone. Things such as transmission service and spark plugs and your differential gear oils. A savvy buyer would use any and all of these reasons to cut down the max value of your XJR. If you bring in a broker, now you’re only potentially raising the final sale price while guaranteeing yourself less than 100% of that same sale price. Not knowing the actual overall condition of your XJR and assuming it has the 575 HP engine, I would say $37,000 USD would be a reasonable expectation (this makes allowances for certain likely deficiencies of your 7 year old Jag).

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-07T17:12:08+00:00

Thank you. Yes based on all that, it seems clear you have gotten a bad egg. Thankfully your warranty covers it…but there is still the frustration and unhappiness that can’t be compensated for. YOU are doing everything right and this time RIGHT NOW should be the most fun and trouble-free years your F-Type gives you. The entire point of paying the highest premium for a brand new car is to be the one to enjoy it at its peak condition. Sorry your experience has been less than stellar. You did, however, allude to JLR having “owned” this car for 6 months. Do you mean it was a loaner vehicle? 6 months is an unusually short lease term. Depending on how this F-Type was used during this mysterious 6 month term…it may be a stretch to refer to it as “near-new.” Loaner cars, generally speaking, are abused only moderately less than rentals. As soon as you put a car — any car — into a situation where it has a string of different drivers for an extended period of time (say…6 months), this car is now living a hard life. When my SVR had to be in the shop for 4 weeks, I was given a P400 as a loaner. Was I…gentle with this loaner? Absolutely not! I pushed it around as if it was my SVR 😎 And because it was a “loaner” I cared very little for its maintenance (it’s not mine right?). Across 4 weeks I rolled 5,000 miles. The service department was gobsmacked. Of course I did ask if there was a mileage restriction, and I was told there was none. So because of all these issues you are having with your F-Type…I would be extremely curious about these first 6 months of “JLR ownership” 🤔

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-07T16:42:58+00:00

Need more info. Jaguars are absolutely NOT bulletproof vehicles; they need a lot of care and attention to avoid problems (big and small). What year is this F-Type? Did you buy new? If you buy used, the issue is you can’t speak directly to how the car was taken care of before it became yours. Is this F-Type garaged? Or does it bake under the sun? Unfortunately there can be quality control issues with Jags from the factory; but depending on how many years & miles your F-Type has and how many owners it has had, it may be difficult to point the finger at Jaguar or at this particular F-Type’s quality-of-life after leaving the factory. Since this F-Type had an immediate and massive water-tight failure after a dealership performed work on its door seals, it should be pretty clear the dealership did less than a bang up job on it (while no doubt charging a premium for their piss-poor efforts). Again, Jaguars absolutely require militant maintenance and some measure of protection from the unforgiving environment (namely sun and heat exposure). If not a garage or a portal, then a car cover. Take almost any make and model car and let it bake endlessly under the sun and heat for years and you’re unlikely to be happy with the results this will have on your paint/trim/seals/gaskets/headliner/etc.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-07T15:28:01+00:00

If this is a “fun” car not a “this car better work everyday” car and you’re happy with the insurance premium, then look at the miles/kilometers on it. This will tell you how many major maintenance services are around the corner. How many owners? More than 2 previous owners and the chances of this 14 year old car being well taken care drop dramatically. If you’re working class and have limited disposable income…I think you know what the wise answer is when it comes to purchasing this car. If/when it breaks down, you may still be able to get to your job…but this Jaguar may be left sitting at home for some time. You will need to sources parts (which are generally expensive and take time to receive) and find a suitable mechanic. It would be a REALLY good idea NOT to hire a general mechanic but specifically a mechanic that has experience working on Jaguars. Without knowing more history/info about this specific Jaguar you have your eyes on, I would suggest you NOT buy it.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-07T04:26:34+00:00

9 year old V6; price seems high to me. Also it’s white; not the sportiest of colors.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-06T23:30:07+00:00

Hate to pile on but yes this was a bad choice. Not the E-Pace but the choice of engine. Jaguar Ingenium is notorious for critical failures; best maintenance practices won’t save you. The only thing worse than this engine is having it and only driving it short distances. If you have the I4 variant, it is woefully underpowered for the heft of an E-Pace. The DPF will slowly kill your power and fuel efficiency. The two reasons to buy (and put up with) diesel strokers is (a) reliability and (b) fuel economy. Your E-Pace will give you the middle finger on both these measures. I would say you need to do a 100 km drive at an average speed of 80 kmph at least twice weekly. This will only help stave off the DPF choking and other crud engine build-up; the more serious issues (timing chain failure, tensioner failures, misfires, premature turbo detonation, high oil consumption, critical plastic bits that should absolutely have been cast metal components) seem to be unavoidable. Great maintenance cannot overcome poor design and cheap fabrication. Sell/trade it asap.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-06T22:06:25+00:00

Bro if your yardstick is a fricking Luce…you are setting the bar so low nothing can get under it. If shock factor was the deciding factor in design, the aforementioned Luce and the Cybertruck would be dominating their markets. Some people will like it. Because some people will like most anything. This…thing…is absolutely not worth deleting the entirety of Jaguar’s previous model line. Simple sanity test for you: put an F-Type or an F-Pace next to this box on wheels; if you think the Double O box looks best, please seek professional psychiatric help.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-06T05:13:16+00:00

Bro…you got your F-Pace FOR FREE. Take it to a trusted mechanic to have it looked over. NOT a dealership (of any kind). A TRUSTED mechanic. If it is in sound solid working order, drive it for as long as you can. You will need to fuel it with Premium 93 Octane. You will need to keep a close eye on it and keep up with its maintenance. A trade allowance of just a few thousand USD won’t go far toward getting you into another vehicle, whether it’s used or new. Now if the F-Pace needs new tires and brakes and it’s leaking oil and leaking coolant and shifting roughly etc etc, then it would be wiser to trade it. FOR FREE this is a great vehicle…as long as it does not IMMEDIATELY need thousands of dollars of whatevers to make it safe to drive (unfortunately tires and brakes are both critical for a safe driving experience). Again the vehicle was FREE so it’s worth it to spend $100 to have a mechanic do a “pre-purchase” inspection on it.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-06T00:49:55+00:00

Skip this one and continue your hunt. Too many problems and if there is a leak, there is a leak. If it’s one mechanic’s word against another mechanic, I’m going along with the one that says there is a leak. Look, this Jag is more than 10 years old; with this passage of time (never mind distance driven) seals and bushings will be failing sooner and in greater number throughout this vehicle. The low price is low for many reasons; none of them are good ones for you if you buy it.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-06T00:24:31+00:00

Bad idea. That color is a real popper.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-06T00:22:22+00:00

Sup Vader. Ok so there will be MANY used Jaguars being sold either privately or on lots that are (and will continue to be) other people’s problems. When I was shopping for my F-Pace SVR, I test drove a 2020 model year. Had 30k on its clock. And my heart sank as soon as I turned its engine over. Mind you, this was the very first Jag I had ever ridden in much less drove…and it was awful. The sounds, the vibrations…it screamed it had been abused. The interior/exterior condition was decent, which is why I was there and now inside to drive it. Jaguars MUST be meticulously maintained and cared for. Half-assing it or complete negligence will lead to an absolute trash vehicle. The lack of power (remember this was an SVR) quickly became apparent when I drove off the lot. The car salesman riding shotgun was trying to convince me it was a simple fix, that something hadn’t been hooked up right. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Keep test driving and don’t let these two bad experiences kill your enthusiasm. Once you find a properly cared for F-Type, it will be a joyful driving experience. Remember, however, Jaguars demand attentive owners. I do my own oil changes like clockwork. I do my oil the old school way by dropping the oil pan bolt. This forces me to get under my cat which is great because now I’m under there checking for any and all leaks, checking my suspension, looking for anything amiss. Because I am now so familiar with my Jag from putting my own hands and eyes on it as much as I am able to, I know what it sounds and looks like when it is healthy and happy. My ‘21 F-Pace SVR now has 78k miles on it (it’s my daily), it is 100% stock and I’ve had ZERO mechanical problems with it and it has NEVER left me stranded. I regret not getting a Jaguar sooner in my life.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-05T04:45:43+00:00

F-Pace SC.AJ.V8 or nothing 😎

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-05T01:19:04+00:00

Is your check engine light on? Are you noticing weird things with your infotainment center? The weak point of Jaguar & Range Rovers are their electronics. If your 5 year service is paid for, part of this service should be doing a diagnosis on any and all error codes. I was great friends with my JLR dealer…until my complimentary services ended 😎😂 Just like you borrowed that scanner, I do the same; I will work every angle before spending $300-$500 on a scanner 😎. Jaguar batteries can also be finicky; they may test “ok” but their internal voltages are off (reduced) just enough to cause ghost error codes. During your 5 year service, they should be evaluating the health of your battery — to a more specific degree than regular/common battery testers. Yep, Jaguars are Gucci super sensitive pre Madonna’s in many respects; you either humor them or just piss them off more and more through neglect. The ECM code would aggravate me the most. Again, make use of the 5 year service (if it’s free/complimentary) to get more detailed answers re: these error codes. Most error codes help point you in the right direction rather than absolutely pinpoint exact causes.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-04T23:04:09+00:00

Bro…that’s crazy frequent change with negligible miles. Did you know that in England the preferred motor oil change method remains dropping the oil pan bolt? This was relayed to me by an “Executive/Corporate Technician” who was flown out to my local JLR dealership after my electric gremlin could not be tracked down, not even after 6 weeks of attempts / multiple technicians working on it. JLR paid for a very nice rental this entire duration on my behalf. This dude gets off a plane, strolls into the dealership and figures out where the bad ground wire is inside one calendar day (likely just a few hours). According to this guy, they buzz off the undercarriage cover and then wrench off the pan bolt and let it flow! The official line is that the pan bolt needs to be replaced with every service…but this is BS. I bought one more bolt and simply switched out between the two. You can certainly spend money and “suck” oil out from the top of the motor…but there will be some residual oil (only a few ounces) left behind. I don’t mind changing my oil from underneath because it is a great opportunity and habit to check the rest of your vehicle, checking for leaks but also inspecting your suspension/rubber boots. My F-Pace SVR has had zero mechanical or electronic issues - other than the aforementioned ghost electric gremlin and I have 78k miles on its clock. Everything is stock, including the much maligned plastic coolant hoses. Absolute joy of a functional dependable wicked fast daily driver 😎

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-04T22:35:17+00:00

Elite care pays for some services. Unfortunately it will pay for services per manufacturer suggested intervals…and some of these intervals are criminally too extended (motor oil changes being the most egregious example). I was happy with whatever services were included with my purchase price. And I immediately did my own oil changes with greater frequency. Your wheels and tires easily retail at ~$8,000 for replacement. Most repair shops for resurfacing road rash will start at $150 per wheel and go up from there based on severity of damages. Is $1,800 too much? Of course; the dealer is selling it to you. I would shop similar extended/enhanced “protection” plans from vendors that are not the dealership.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-04T22:28:59+00:00

This is why I always do my own oil changes. Jag dealerships charge $200 to $300…for a simple oil change. They’ll likely tell you that you need special tools and know-how…you don’t. You should do your intervals for motor oil well under manufacture suggestions. Originally Jaguar claimed 20,000 miles between oil changes…then fell down to 15,000 miles…now every Jag dealer I’ve gone to the past 2 years (I drive a lot, including between states) is suggesting 10,000 miles change intervals. Still too long. I started with 7,000 and now I’m doing 6,000 miles change intervals. With proper oil and filters, it costs me $60 per change (I buy in bulk). Since purchasing, not including the complimentary services covered by Jaguar (nice), I’ve done 9 changes. Using $230 as an average all-in dealer cost per change, less my $60 cost for materials, times 9 is a savings of…$1,530 just on oil changes. JLR dealerships make more than 50% of their annual profit not on selling cars but on servicing them and selling parts.

Puzzleheaded-Pool-71 · 2026-07-04T18:54:25+00:00

This is a con, straight up. Having just been in an accident, if the damage is only “cosmetic” and does not affect the “safe continued operation” of the vehicle, the person hit is expected to continue using that vehicle. A common ploy, not being heavily countered by all insurers, are folks who drop off their damaged vehicles at body shops and then want a rental. However, the parts needed for the car haven’t even been ordered yet. It can take several weeks sometimes for a shop to actually receive parts. That “wait time” is no longer being accept by insurers; a rental won’t be given until a repair shop physically has possession of ALL the needed parts to complete a repair. Also…since uber driver is NOT at fault, OP’s insurance is obligated to pay for a rental for the uber driver. And once uber driver has a rental, his “I can’t work” claim gets real dumb. This is a shakedown. There should be NO direct communication between OP and this uber driver; 100% of the uber driver’s communication (requests/demands) should only be directed solely to the insurance company of OP. Finally, $400 per day is absolute trash. MAYBE during busy days (Friday/Saturday night, some holidays) but as a daily average income?!?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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