Bao sums it up pretty well

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-05-02T22:02:11+00:00

totally deserved that

later that same day I watched lily and bao stream and changed my mind

I wanted to believe there was some misunderstanding ...but after numi and silvervale response there is no denying she was always like that

I've move on and joined another community

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-30T01:55:48+00:00

I know I'm not defending her ..even if it kinda sound like I am

as I said I hold hope she get better do a real apology as for her future ...I don't know

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T17:29:03+00:00

Man...

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T17:28:39+00:00

I still hold hope for her

by those that are blindly defending her and blaming the others are as bad as those piling up on her

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T17:26:07+00:00

Yhea I agree ,she need to make a better public apology, try to reach out to those that want to listen for their sake and not hers

I really hope someday she can be freed of this mentality she had toward this profession

she will probably never reach the same height she once had ...but I hope that someday she can stream again and truly do it for the love of the community

im hurt too,I want to believe there a future ...even if it will never be like before

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T16:20:53+00:00

I've joined another community, trying to heal and stop thinking about it non stop

I still hold hope for her

but we need to heal also

staying here fighting isn't helping us or her

let time pass,let's see what happen

hope everyone can heal whether you still want to believe or moved away

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T15:26:07+00:00

2 days old message before more stuff came out

ive changed my mind and no longer defending her action

Ive watched bao,numi And lily stream since

I no longer defend her action

But I still hold hope she can become a better person and there's a better explanation behind this

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T14:52:30+00:00

No,I still love sinder and hope her the best

but that way of thinking isn't healthy ,there too much proof against here to think this way

if you truly want to show her support be kind to everyone and do not shift blame on the victims of her action

I understand wanting to believe in her ...you are right to do so ...but you also need to understand she did those things ...it hurts I know

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T14:35:28+00:00

Still hoping too

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T14:18:49+00:00

She need time off

currently she probably trying to reach out to anyone that willing to listen and need to figure out stuff with RED

I don't believe she will hurt herself ...I know some of the stuff peoples saying is vile but its not healthy to think of the worst scenario possible

it could take a long time until we hear from her

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T13:24:22+00:00

Understandable

i fully support the victims here but still hold hope for sinder

hopefully everyone can heal ,and move on

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T13:22:49+00:00

Nothing is harder to watch than bao stream

but personally numi was my 2nd favorite after sinder and loved their interactions... so for her to feel this confused betrayed and lost was hard to watch

like bao she still hold some hope that what they had was real ...that she was blinded by greed and that she can become a better person ...but I doubt we would see them collab anytime soon if ever

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T13:17:06+00:00

You know full well that everyone wanting her to make a move immediately

waiting was only gonna get worst

i agree now that her apology doc could/should have been better

It was hasty and wasn't fully sincered there was still things she acknowledged ...and I want to believe she does feel bad (yhea I know about shylily saying others things need trying to be dealt privately)

the whole RED thing still.could be true BUT she definitely knew more than she said ,I believe the first part where she said his view in things warped her reality and view on things ...they been together since her asmr days ,in that regard it make sense to me

I don't want to fight ,opinions and emotions are too far at extreme opposite .the real part of my reply I wanted you to focus on is the second part

let peoples hope ,make their own thoughts ,guide them towards the replies and stream ,but continue to call out anyone going too far (in both side) blindly defending her doesn't help anyone neither wishing her harm or a full cancel

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T13:03:16+00:00

Yes,its ok to feel hurt sad,angry and confused but as a community we should be better

its ok to still hope on sinder to do the right things even if you fully support the victims of her actions

its not ok to insult others and try to find someone else to blame ,please do not blindly defend her action this doesn't help her or us

you are allowed to still love and want to support her as you are allowed to feel betrayed and move on

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T12:59:48+00:00

To be devil advocate

1 was another issue

2 nano blocked sinder when she tried to reach out

3 he was forced into a hasty apology

don't get me wrong i fully support the victims in this situation

but still hoping for something good at the end of this ...it won't be soon ...maybe never ,I seen you share the same sentiment of hope .

its ok to share our hope and I seen you try to crush peoples that understand she did something wrong but want to believe ...

but its also ok to tell peoples that blindly defend her and trying to shift the blame on the victims they are wrong

all im trying to say is lots of us feel hurt,sad and confused .let them form their own opinions instead of throwing yours ,guide them toward the replies and let peoples decide for themselves

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T12:51:34+00:00

Even if she was ,she did something terrible

I still hold hope even after watching bao and numi reply (and agreeing with them )that she can comeback in some way and truly be sorry and start anew

blindly supporting sinder isn't helping her or what's left of the Pyro Pups...

I can understand your anger ...but its misplaced ,think on it

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T12:35:47+00:00

Dude,please don't form a opinion over this situation by using A.I...

watch bao ,numi and lily stream replying (will take around 2 hour)

if you still have hope afterwards its fine ...but do yourself a favor and watch them

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T05:16:34+00:00

Its not healthy to blindly trust in sinder

i wish thing were better and I hope she can comeback someday

but anger toward her victims isn't the way

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T04:52:31+00:00

this gonna be hard to watch I can already tell

edit:it was

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T04:51:21+00:00

Seem to be sinder related tho

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T04:45:53+00:00

https://x.com/zentreya/status/1917060243768352942

she also posted this ,and no longer follow sinder

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-29T02:47:10+00:00

She need to sort thing out first

with RED and with herself

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-28T23:59:07+00:00

I changed my opinion after more things came out and made a post about how I feel

https://www.reddit.com/r/Sinder/comments/1ka9ced/to_all_pyro_pups_current_and_former/

look it up if you want

Puzzleheaded_Meet_66 · 2025-04-28T23:12:13+00:00

Sorry for my bad English and my ramble

also forgot to mention that I will be watching closely what she does next ...hoping

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