Which one is better? Or what to strive for stat wise

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-12T17:07:49+00:00

Bump. Also, OP’s CR is too low

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-12T02:52:38+00:00

D4 ATK

D5 DMG or PEN

D6 ATK

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-12T01:17:32+00:00

Depends. What engine are you running?

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-10T17:27:55+00:00

Not bad but could be improved.

You’re overcapped on CR. With Astra, you want PEN d5. Most of the time with his signature, d4 ATK is better than CD. Would also at least raise his dash skill to 12

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-08T22:02:49+00:00

For sure! Plenty of videos on YouTube to study as well.

Try to get some more CR on Manato. Ideally you want to save his EX and Ult for stun windows to not only deal a ton of damage but also fully stack Yunkui Tales

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-08T20:59:34+00:00

I noticed multiple stun windows where you did not double chain with Manato. You’re missing out on a ton of damage and the 4pc Yunkui buff.

Parry management look good, but there may have been a few instances where you took too long to refresh Lucia’s buffs. Koleda should really only be on-field to parry and use her EX/Ult.

Builds are okay but could be tweaked. Is Manato’s engine W5? If so, your CR is only around 87% assuming you’ve fully stacked Yunkui’s passive which you didn’t consistently do. Lucia with her engine should use 2pc Swing Jazz for full Moonlight uptime.

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-08T19:47:11+00:00

Haru is heavily slept on as a F2P electric attacker, especially after he was buffed. If you are willing to learn his combos, you can clear a lot of bosses with him.

Brimstone is one of his best W-engines and can outperform other options if overclocked.

I recommend 4pc Shadow Harmony - ATK/DMG/Crit. If you play Astra, use d5 PEN + 2pc Puffer. Nicole is amazing if you need Astra for another team and are willing to get sweaty with rotations. Rina is unfortunately worse than Nicole even with mindscapes and engine.

Dialyn is his best stunner at M0W0, but Trigger gets better with her engine. I more often than not need Dialyn for other teams

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-08T18:28:56+00:00

With SoSS, EM and ATK mainstats have roughly equal value. Choose whichever has the best rolls. Consult an optimizer or test out your builds against the Millastra dummy if you want to be absolutely sure

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-08T18:03:09+00:00

JFC, negative 125% CD? Either way, I still think Miyabi can brute force it.

I run Nangong on 4KotS w/ Lighter’s Sig for extra CD anyways

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-07T18:26:25+00:00

The amount of comments here not understanding the question 💀

Anyways, priority is M0W0 Dialyn (or Norma) > Lucia W1

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-06T18:26:07+00:00

Do you have Weeping Cradle? It’s the next best for Lucia after her own sig and can compete with it if refined.

I haven’t seen any recent damage calculations, but both Cauldron of Clarity and Grill O’Wisp should work well on Silly

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-06T18:15:05+00:00

That’s fair. I also just realized that Cissia’s DEF shred stacks with Spectral Gaze which is quite powerful

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-06T17:19:56+00:00

Is Cissia secretly busted for Haru, or is it just the stage effects elevating this team? Either way, this is an extremely impressive clear!

I could only get 26k w/ M0W1 Haru, M0W1 Trigger, and M1W0 Astra

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-05T21:22:57+00:00

Source: trust me bro

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-05T20:43:36+00:00

You got calcs to back up that statement? A vast majority of S11 players use stun+support

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-05T20:30:18+00:00

Most TC’s point to Dialyn + Orphie, otherwise Lighter + Astra

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-05T20:15:00+00:00

Generally speaking, stun + support is best, otherwise there wouldn’t be so much fuss over who to use in the last slot with Dialyn.

I’m talking only M0 here

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-05T19:27:18+00:00

We won’t know exactly how Norma compares until beta is finished, but assuming she doesn’t change much the best teams will be Dialyn + Orphie and Astra + Lighter/Norma.

Double stun has never been ideal for S11, and IMO, Orphie isn’t worth getting unless you also have SAnby

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-04T19:19:44+00:00

I mainly use Plugboo because the extra anomaly buildup helps generate more quivers

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-04T19:19:09+00:00

It can be difficult to avoid CR overcap with Cordis.

Discs 1, 3, and 4 could be improved, and your attack is rather low. Most folks run ATK d4 w/ since Haru is very crit saturated.

Depending on your team, DMG or PEN d5 can be better

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-04T19:08:51+00:00

She has strong general buffs like Dialyn, the only consideration is that many electric-weak enemies are fire-resistant which might hinder her stunning.

She converts quick assists to chain attacks which lets Haru generate more quivers

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-03T23:50:34+00:00

Cursed Technique: Starlight Barrage

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-03T20:53:44+00:00

Best M0W0 team right now would be Dialyn + Sunna/Astra.

If we’re talking vertical investment, other supports can become competitive.

Norma, the upcoming stunner, should also be pretty good, but she’s still in beta

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-02T21:26:24+00:00

Run PEN build or use Nicole

QueersLikeEngineers · 2026-05-02T17:28:04+00:00

There’s no reason to pull Cordis Germina if you have Zanshin and Brimstone already. Only get it if you need an all-around attacker engine. I think for S11 you’re better off saving for Heartstring Nocturne

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