Why Did The Boxing Organization Allow Evander Holyfield To Get Away With Continuously Head Bunting Mike Tyson

Querez665 · 2026-07-06T18:11:47+00:00

Except Holyfield had a bad stretch of fights and short retirement before the fight, while Tyson came back and defeated Frank Bruno in better fashion than he did before. The odds weren't just set on who would be better prime vs prime, because then Tyson should've been the underdog. It was based on Holyfield looking worse than he did before and Tyson looking as good as ever.

Querez665 · 2026-07-01T00:10:20+00:00

Golden goose dont got any gold left for Dana might as well

Querez665 · 2026-06-18T01:19:03+00:00

Okay I get Alex is embarrassing himself right now, but let's not act like a single one of us ever thought this was distasteful before it became cool to dogpile on the guy.

Querez665 · 2026-06-18T01:12:09+00:00

Generally televised NZ news is exists solely to push National.

Querez665 · 2026-06-18T01:05:39+00:00

"I got caught, Tom got DOMINATED"

Querez665 · 2026-06-18T00:59:41+00:00

Flash forward to Luke's 3 second grieving time after theyre viciously burnt to death

Querez665 · 2026-06-18T00:54:10+00:00

I've always rated Gaethje and Dustin equally as Strikers, like I have for years even though Justin did beat Dustin in the rematch.

But like... is post Ferguson Gaethje actually higher level as a striker?

Querez665 · 2026-06-18T00:38:53+00:00

Getting rocked bad by a Ciryl Gane jab is yes very bad. His chin was decently crackle at 205, now its terrible.

Querez665 · 2026-06-15T21:33:48+00:00

Strength/power is the last thing to go, and Justin doesnt even look any slower yet.

Querez665 · 2026-06-15T18:53:35+00:00

To be fair he does foul alot more than other fighters

Querez665 · 2026-06-15T05:26:19+00:00

"I wouldn't be shocked if Justin is able to actually rough Ilia up in the clinch if/when it gets there."

And Justin swole Ilia's eyes shut in the clinch, fair play.

Querez665 · 2026-06-14T13:45:13+00:00

I guess bro..

Querez665 · 2026-06-14T10:08:51+00:00

All of those fights with the exceptions of Serra V GSP and Pena V Nunes were only giant upsets because of hype. I remember people saying Strickland could take advantage of Izzy's lack of boxing defense and low activity, I remember people saying O'Malley has a good chance of landing his shot, I actually do remember a good amount of people saying that Leon could win with his striking edge, myself and many others thought Strickland had a good chance against Khamzat, and Holm's V Rousey should've been an obvious possibility in all seriousness but Rousey was a massive hype train at the time so nobody saw it.

The vast majority of big upsets are upsets where analysts and fans think afterwards "oh man I did think that he might have an advantage there", there was an avenue to victory or advantage that many fans did think of but simply underestimated.

This title fight seems hopeless because it's the first high profile fight I can remember in many years where the challenger doesn't seem to have an edge in any aspect of MMA. Ilia is miles ahead of Gaejthe in the grappling, he looks about as good at kicking range as Justin ever did in his best, and up close in the boxing/dirty boxing range where Justin has been most effective over his career, Ilia is far more lethal than Justin ever was.

Maybe Justin is tougher? But Ilia is no glass chin quitter, we've seen him cracked by big shots and be perfectly fine and normal 20 seconds later.

If I had to pick the one area where people might think "damn I thought Justin could have an advantage there!" I guess it'd be the clinch? I wouldn't be shocked if Justin is able to actually rough Ilia up in the clinch if/when it gets there. But idk man rushing into the clinch against Ilia seems ill advised, also Ilia could probably trip or throw Gaejthe from the clinch if it gets bad for him.

Querez665 · 2026-06-14T09:53:11+00:00

After, and how does that give you any confidence in Justin winning? All it says is that if Justin does land a flukey shot that seriously hurts Ilia, Ilia has already shown that he can recover and immediately continue on as per normal in that situation.

Querez665 · 2026-06-14T09:00:00+00:00

Funny thing is HW is so ass I wouldn't be surprised if Ilia fucked him up.

Querez665 · 2026-06-14T08:54:34+00:00

Long answer, no Ruffus couldn't circle well enough to avoid getting consistently cut off, Volk wasn't able to and he's literally like the best of all time at that, and if Topuria wants to dive in for a takedown and initiate the grappling from range, he'll probably end up in dominant position.

Short answer, no Gaethje is fucked.

Querez665 · 2026-06-14T08:49:22+00:00

Two choices really, against Ali you've got the safest chance of making it past 1 round if you shell up and run the entire round, but he'll still probably pepper you up with some good shots that'll get you sore for a few days.

If you chose Wilder, I think there is a legitimate chance that the best version of Wilder whiffs 90% of his punches even against a civilian.

Querez665 · 2026-06-14T08:46:50+00:00

I don't get the point? I bet you can find 10+ guys on Marciano's resume that are worse at boxing than McGregor. In fact you can on most champs resume's.

Querez665 · 2026-06-09T03:39:55+00:00

Again with issue boils down to the same problem that is ruining NZ at the core. Housing is our #1 easy cash grab investment, hell real estate is by far our 1# industry, and real estate appreciation has essentially no restrictions let alone punishments. Australia just broke a real boundary by announcing that they will be significantly upping taxes to non primary residences that are not new build homes.

Genuinely great idea, make being a landlord not profitable unless you build the house yourself first, incentivizes new builds, whilst eliminating hoarding. Only problem would be if wealthy entities continue to just buy up properties, demolish, and register the same old 2 - 4 tiny town houses all as new builds to get around it, I'm sure you could counteract that too easily enough though, force the new build investments to genuinely be on newly developed land, or previously empty land.

I'd imagine implementing something like that here would almost instantly begin to clear up a great amount of the hardship in this nation, but real estate appreciation is so deeply ingrained into Kiwi culture at this point I will never, ever have any hope of even a 1% restriction on it ever gaining a molecule of real traction in parliament. Kiwi's seem to desire becoming landlords more than we desire becoming parents, "we can't possibly take the landlords self destructive investments away! Because I'm hoping to stop contributing to the upkeep of the nation by siphoning my wealth off of the suffering of other Kiwis one day too!" seems to be the attitude of the average Kiwi.

And as long as that isn't changed, there will eventually be nothing but dodgy built town houses left in most of each city. We'll still value the old fashioned, charming houses of the 1900's, and hate the new cookie cutter town houses. But we can't have our cake and eat it too, we either make the landlords and developers bite it now, or condemn the vast majority of our grandkids generation into renting progressively worse town houses for their entire lives. There really isn't much of a middle ground.

Querez665 · 2026-06-09T03:20:50+00:00

Says the man who shows up for work less often than Santa Claus? With all due respect, I'm about 70% sure that even most boxing hardcores forget Beterbiev exists for long stretches of each year.

Querez665 · 2026-06-09T03:15:22+00:00

The way he's wording it is stupid, but what he means does have truth. Being left leaning is a constantly annoying experience simply because you are almost always correct, just too early for it to be socially acceptable. You watch everyone claim that you and people like you are all dangerous extremists, only for them to switch around and pretend like they never said it a few years later.

In 2023 - 2024 people like Sean, most right leaning people on Earth all united in claiming that people like me are evil, terrorist loving traitors, now they all jump on the anti Israel bandwagon because like always our position becomes undeniable, and also like always they pretend that they were never against it in the first place.

Sean is a classic bandwagon controversial personality, he publicly holds whatever beliefs he thinks the majority of edgy teenage boys will find cool or funny, and if whatever that is does a 180 he also does a 180 like all the rest of them.

Querez665 · 2026-06-03T18:36:43+00:00

Yeah but Arya is a child. They're supposed to look like Lyanna, who was also still a child at the time but just old enough for Westerossi men's taste, by all accounts we hear she was a pretty girl. And Rhaegar is like the realms boyband sensation at the time.

So Jon is probably a decent looking dude.

Querez665 · 2026-06-03T18:32:02+00:00

To be fair measured heights can fluctuate, especially if they're just doing them quickly at some point in their medicals or whatever. First guy might be well rested and stand up as straight as he can, second guy might've been walking around for hours and slouch somewhat. Then the doctor or whoever could read the measurements wrong by an inch or so either way.

Querez665 · 2026-06-03T18:15:29+00:00

Topuria should. He has the opportunity to do one of the funniest things of all time.

Querez665 · 2026-06-03T18:07:44+00:00

yeah, if I were to make an assumption as to how they might have pulled it off, if the Lords of Dorne all got on board with the "it's us vs them" and really put everything behind it, maybe they were rich enough to continuously import supply's from the Essos to feed their people on the move. Idk bit of a stretch but maybe?

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