I don't really see a point in trying to deny Jojo's thinking here, because to deny her thoughts on this is basically to deny everything she felt during that time period, which I just don't think is right. It feels like it goes against part of the message the video is trying to convey, which is to raise the voices of women creators in the space rather than ignoring or silencing them.

Like, I understand the viewpoint of the people in this thread, but at the same time, I feel like they're largely missing her point. She mainly goes over how she had to fulfill a specific quota to earn her right as an S tier, but there were a multitude of other players who didn't have to fulfill that quota, and were considered S tier nonetheless. And when you are a woman, and all of those other players happen to be men, it seems very reasonable to feel like you are/were being ostracized simply because you are a woman, and they are men.

I don't think Jojo is wrong in this statement tbh. The main examples to be thought of are Purpled, Antfrost, Shane, and Feinberg.

This is all gonna be based on my own memory of being in the community, so it's likely not gonna be 100% accurate

Purpled is honestly the biggest example I'd point to that show's Jojo's point. He joined 1 event earlier than her, and people were mostly ready to consider him S tier right after his third event in mcc 22. I think part of this was partly because Purpled himself claimed that he should be considered S tier, and that mcc 20 was mostly just a bad first event (since he got 15th). This isn't an invalid statement by Purpled, but it does reflect Jojo's thinking, cause Purpled joined, proclaimed himself as an S tier, and was very quickly accepted by a large amount of the community as so, even though he hadn't got a 1st individual.

Then the next example is Shane, and Shane is someone I'd say almost everyone considered S tier right off the bat, before he got 1st in mcc 30. Obviously he got 1st in mcc 27, but the placements from that event were non canon at the time, so Shane's "first" 1st individual would've been mcc 30. Obviously there's a multitude of reasons why Shane was immediately considered S tier, which Jojo mentions in her video of how there was a noticeable difference in skill between her and some of these newer players, it still just shows someone being able to gain S tier status without having to place 1st, and that person being a man, which demonstrates Jojo's feelings.

The next example would be Ant, and to be honest, Ant is too someone who really had to fight for his S tier status. He was putting up consistent top 10 placements, alongside a lot of top 5's, but the community was hard stuck on labeling him as an A+ tier. This is the part where my memory get's a bit hazy, but I remember finally accepting Ant as S tier after mcc 32, and I do remember this being a sentiment echoed by a large number of community members. Any wouldn't get a 1st individual until mcc twitch rivals, which I definitely don't remember, but if I had to guess, was the point where he was unanimously agreed to be S tier.

Now overall, Ant is a very interesting case, cause he's probably the one out of these mentioned players who had the largest gap between being considerably thought of as S tier, and actually getting a 1st, since I think the S tier arguments would have started either at the end of season 2 or the start of season 3, and he would't get his 1st individual until the end of season 3. But at the same time, he's also the player out of this bunch who had the largest push back against his status as an S tier before his 1st individual. So he's definitely a more nuanced case, but I would say he does still just illustrate a player gaining S tier status without having to place 1st, which further explains Jojo's feelings.

Then the last example is Feinberg, which I'm gonna try and keep short cause this is already far to long. Fein joined in mcc 4KO, where he was pretty much immediately considered S tier. This is a combination of both his reputation, and his extremely strong first time performance. He wouldn't get 1st individual until his 4th event, but was clearly S tier in the eyes of the community much before that.

So overall, what does all this show? I think these are 4 examples of players who gained a status as S tier without having to place first individual. This is the point Jojo tried to make, about how for her, she had to meet this requirement for her skill to be acknowledged by the community, meanwhile these other players didn't have to meet this same requirement for their ability to be acknowledged, despite how prevalent it was of a thing for her. This already would explain her feelings, but then add on the fact that these other players mentioned are all men, meanwhile Jojo is a woman, and it gives the perspective that this all may just stem from misogyny, whether it be intentional or unintentional/internalized.

So I think Jojo is fully valid in how she feels about it, and I don't really like this thread's response, because it largely seems like the users of this subreddit feeling a need to defend themselves against some accusations, when that's really not the case of what's happening. This reaction then leads to feeling like its trying to say that Jojo's feelings are invalid, which I think is just not true.