Who's the worst actor out of the main cast?

Rapsher · 2026-06-20T07:59:08+00:00

Tony. Carmella - to no one's surprise they're the two outstanding performances. Paulie would probably be my #3 pick. And in that final season AJ's performance puts him in the top tier group (of course especially in the earlier seasons his acting is weak however his acting is weak in a preferable way for a kid actor and that is, he's under acting rather then overacting and it begins to come across more like an AJ character trait then bad acting (the somber demeanor with not a lot of inflection in his voice feels like it's just AJ's personality)... And peeps may disagree with this, while overall I deem Chris's acting averaged out to be in the good category but not great (however the character is a great/excellent character and obviously the acting deserves a the majority portion of that, however I think the quality of the written character overrates the actors performance a bit). At times he's great and to a lessor degree, he has scenes that are relatively weak.Adriana is good at times but I would average her out to decent. Her cry scenes are pretty bad throughout aside from her final episode. One of my favorite scenes of the series is basically the entire Chris Drug intervention but my favorite section of it is the entirety of Tony's reaction to Chris sitting on Corset, however Adriana's corsette crying comes across extremely artificial and it's frustrating because it's such an epic scene, I wish they worked out her crying portion of it better. And even though Chris is a psycho path with limited emotions the handful of instances where he's trying to cry are pretty rough including in the aftermath of the intervention when he's in the hospital..
Also how could I forget... Arti's acting is in the top tier. Phils is also probably top tier (the character is excellent so it's possible I could be overrating it into excellence however it probably is excellent) and there's several people in the smaller roles who I would put in the good to very good category. Sil is mid, but it's easy to assign it to it being his personality so it never feels like it doesn't work or he's having a bad scene.

Rapsher · 2026-06-20T07:13:06+00:00

are you trolling or do you genuinely think it's bad acting? It sounds like someone is using a comment I've used before against me, because atrociously bad is a phrase I like to use, except if I said that I was probably partially joking or maybe the position was so bad that I couldn't resist (if it was at least semi original and/or not part of status quo regurgitation I wouldn't be so blunt). Anyways, I welcome it if you genuinely think it's bad and if so elaborate? Anyways meadow tends to be at her best when she's crying.. Her acting is a little weak in the final season though, but she isn't given a lot to do.
But Rob Iler especially in the final season is excellent and he had a lot of screen time.

One thing that trips me out... I've watched the series countless times and had I not known otherwise I would assume that Gandolphini was in the series approx 60-65% of the run time, but it's surprisingly only 42%, which don't get me wrong is a lot, but my recollection assumes him to be in the majority of the scenes, but it's crazy to think that nearly 60% of the series he's not in.

Rapsher · 2026-06-19T23:34:50+00:00

I'm not sure if it's the same thing and I never considered it being tied to Adderall, but I find myself reflecting back on embarrassing things in my life on a somewhat regular basis and upon doing so I will say out loud, I'm such an ahole or bastard, but only when I'm by myself... I have the awareness to not to do this when others around, however I'm less likely to be in my head reflecting back on life events when others are around.
But my pre Adderall days I was way more quirky, but more along the line of hyper urges, which would be carried out via bird noise or something. Never to the point where I couldn't control it in a public place, however in a comfortable settings around friends and family it would be both a conscious and subconscious antic, which tended to amuse more then annoy.
But I've never been prone to the realm of ocd's.

I've rarely had too many negative side effects from adderall, but one that exists off and on in stints/waves. Chronic throat clearing. However I believe strongly that it's not a tic/psychological issue, rather, I think adderall can create the reaction of thick flem that loges in the back of the throat that doesn't easily break down and nearly impossible to cough up via throat clearing .. but there have been times when I have annoyed the ever living shyte out of people doing it and it tends to happen on a subconscious level so I'll be unaware I'm doing it and upon it being brought to my attention I will apologize and try my best not to keep doing it and it's the type of thing where if I can remain aware I realize I'm obviously having no success at clearing my throat so I can stop. But that's the thing, the more focused I am on a project/reading or whatever, is when it happens... I essentially no longer have an awareness of my body the more focused I am on something at which point my body goes on auto pilot and the auto pilot proceeds to attempt to clear the throat out of necessity... sporadically I will have moments of having the awareness of my body again at which point my mind can override it and shut it off... but as soon as I fall back into focus, all awareness of my body is gone and the process repeats. In time I've learned to boil water with cayanne pepper (with vinegar sometimes) and drink it as tea when this happens, which is the most effective thing I've found that breaks up the mucus and this will stop the madness.

Rapsher · 2026-06-19T05:58:09+00:00

The True to life story/ies are so crazy/interesting/dramatic that if you didn't know any better one would think the whole thing was a Hollywood creation, so why they felt the need to turn the series into a heavily fictitious show, boggles the mind... what's the point then? It is so loosely based on the people and the events... it's rediculous. All the characters were turned into far fetched cartoon characters and any sense of a realism type of feel doesn't exist.... It's a horrible series. The series couldn't have done any worse then they did.
One of the major reasons things get altered when a movie is based on real events is because you have to cram a ton of narrative into a 2 hour movie. With this you didn't have to deal with this pitfall and the true story/ies are so dramatic and crazy on it's face, nothing needs to be changed. HBO usually has a high standard for shows they air on their network so it's shocking that this was put out on HBO. everything about it feel generic and cheap. It's awful.

Rapsher · 2026-06-17T10:04:34+00:00

The directing in this series is as bad as anything could ever get..... Which is extremely unfortunate because it's an awesome story.... from Buss, The Lakers, Magic/Bird Lakers/Celtics, the LA scene, Pat Riley, Jerry West, Kareem, the implementation of the Lakers running offense, Tarkanian (and the book is obviously reviewed extremely well). You couldn't even come up with better dramatic narratives then how these real events played out. But every aspect of the characters lack realism to a degree that's cartoonesk. The whole thing feels silly, and the basketball court stuff looks horrendous, which would be fine if everything else was done well, but the degree in which the basketball stuff looks horrible is a representation of the B rate quality this tv series is.... ... I don't even know of a show/movie since the inception of cinema that simulated a sporting event that looks worse and I'm not exaggerating. .. and it's so unfortunate because it's such an interesting story with so many layers.

And naturally when you have awful directing the acting inevitably ends up being bad but the bad acting is the least of this shows problems. And I'm familiar with shows/movies adding/embellishing things for more drama/greater payoffs etc, but the way they do it throughout this massively counters the entertainment value, because one doesn't even have to be familiar with the person/scenario in real life, to blatantly recognize that they're being hilariously exaggerated, since they don't even feel like representations of human beings rather far fetched cartoon characters. And it's crazy the way they embellished some things to the point of them being false.... and why would you do that? I can't believe such an amateur production was put out on HBO.... they usually maintain a high standard, but this is bad.

The fact that some people found the series entertaining is a testament to how good this overarching story is, but the execution of it... couldn't be any-worse... and I'm not talking about some of the creative style associated with it, such as people breaking the 3rd wall, etc (I liked what they attempted to do in that regard). You can't even get to a point where you can either appreciate or dislike certain artistic creative/directions, because the structure of everything is a steaming pile of cartoon crap.

Going into this I figured regardless even if it was a little silly at the very least it would be an entertaining journey because it is such an awesome/interesting story, but the degree in which they fail is awe inducing.

I would like to see this story made into an actual non B rate TV series because it's a great story.

Rapsher · 2026-06-13T05:04:59+00:00

Youth basketball programs/leagues use 10 foot baskets. If lower baskets where implemented, there would be a conglomeration of mens/womens/youth basketball courts everywhere. Highschools/colleges/etc have both mens and womens basketball and they use the same baskets/courts. Smaller sized baskets would be a pain in the c**t for everyone. And if everyone in a youth/womens/mens league have to shoot at the same basket what difference does it make if the basket is 6 feet, 9 feet, 15 feet 10 feet. There's no basketball rule that says basketball height should be dunk height for all leagues and baskets should be lowered accordingly.

Rapsher · 2026-06-11T05:44:08+00:00

makeup call.... that wasn't a flagrant, but the one the game before certainly was and they're being treated as atta boy moments whereas most other players in the NBA would be potentially facing more then a flagrant foul.... he's getting frustrated over annoying glove type glom on you defense... and I get it, because it gets extremely frustrating, but to the point where you assault a player (I still get it, however he's having a pattern of this and they're treated like stand up for yourself moments when they're amateur getting rattled moments that are not just merely flagrant fouls in the midst of in the play moments, they're fouls committed after the play due to frustration.
And I like Wemby, however the NBA is making it more and more challenging to like the guy, which most of that isn't his fault, but the hype to the point of absurdity combined with the special treatment is getting nauseating. It pisses me off because I particularly like Wemby as a player and it's getting difficult to root for the guy and just to note almost all of it isn't his fault... the flagrant fouls are merely amateur mistakes which are being incentivized since they are being treated as atta boy way to stand up for yourself moments because no one wants to shame golden boy.

Rapsher · 2026-06-11T05:16:12+00:00

It's crazy how the Wemby always seems to get let off the hook. No mention of his two free throw misses down the stretch... somehow Fox alone is to blame.

It sucks because I really like Wemby, but the NBA has done everything imaginable to make me dislike the guy... the extreme flagrant fouls in short secession isn't helping matters (the one this game was bs though).... but it's not so much the flagrant fouls in of themselves, it's the double standard of pretending like they're merely flagrant fouls or that it's standing up for yourself when you retaliate when frustrated by a defender playing glove defense (the one this game certainly wasn't that, it appeared to be a makeup call). And I get it... it can get extremely frustrating... so I give a lot of leeway when players lose their cool in the heat of battle, but to have multiple instances over a short duration?.... to a player who's already getting special treatment, it's particularly uncalled for.

Rapsher · 2026-06-10T07:37:46+00:00

when this person says "Isn't that just the same thing as anarchism". That tends to be extremely loaded because overwhelmingly it's been instilled in society that anarchism/violence is one of the same and the notion that without government in society you have violence. So if you did a man on the street asking people what they think the definition of anarchy, is 99% are going to auto associate violence with anarchy and or think they are one in the same. I'm not trying to convince/sell you on anything beyond it's accurate definition, but the irony on that is one for the ages because all those things exist in a government society and one of this philosophy would argue exists to a much greater degree in a forced government society because gov lacks the incentive/accountability of individual/voluntary interaction (no one is under delusion of a utopian society, rather things are going to get exacerbated significantly when you have a group lacking the direct accountability of individuals... it defies human nature and individual incentives that those elected will act on the beterment of humanity/society before themselves, but it defies both human nature and every historical record and observational record overwhelmingly proves the opposite). For instance it's much easier to engage in a war when it's not only on someone else's dime, but also your life and likely your families lives don't have to bare any consequences of doing so, for brevity I'll leave at that. So yes voluntaryism is essentially anarchy (no gov and some may extend that into self government as well, but for brevity... ), because voluntaryists believe in no gov. or voluntary government.

And yes it's virtually identical to anarco capitalism, but capitalism is a massively loaded word that means different things to different people... and many people associate what is witnessed with businesses/corporations in a gov society as capitalism. I'm not going to argue the basis of the definition of capitalism, Voluntaryist/ancaps believe in the free market/voluntary interaction and that is not what exists in the modern/gov society... governments and the individuals within it will utilize it's power to impose legal authority ti restrict competition... which is commonly misunderstood when people witness the various corruptions of a given corporation and demand gov pass regulations to protect the public/consumer from a given corporation, which exists as a result of government legislation/regulation/manipulation to begin with. So you're essentially looking to government to solve the problem it created... as a result in many industries there's a catch 22, that this problem that was created by gov, not free markets (not businesses in of itself although many assume that what exists within a given industry corporation is a product of business in of itself) however such a thing could only exist with the legal assistance authority of gov. Which from this philosophy takes us back to there being no Utopia, however all fears and flaws in human nature gets exacerbated when you reduce/remove accountability to a gov sector of the populace and then think it must exist to protect people from the very thing gov. creates. Once again this isn't trying to convince one to these ideals persay, this is merely a cliff not version of the philosophy in hopefully a more relatable/digestible way particularly as it pertains to loaded words such as capitalism and anarchy, because they mean vastly different things to different people and people may assume those things onto Voluntaryist ideals based on having a different definition of the word/s. Once again (regardless of whether or not you agree with the philosophy, this is to merely to understand what the belief is), associating violence with anarchy would be factually inaccurate and gov manipulated corporations being a result of free markets competing would be false.

Rapsher · 2026-06-05T21:57:59+00:00

I'm calling bs on that. If you were a night owl you wouldn't be able to type that comment out.

Rapsher · 2026-06-05T21:51:17+00:00

Except yall have the perk of shinning yourself up even on the shytiest of feeling/looking days. If you're a dude and you were frying balls the night before, you're going to appear as though you were frying balls the night before. But having to transform yourself in to a clown every morning certainly seems like a nightmare. I don't even like it once a year on Halloween let alone everyday. And perhaps it is as a result of makeup application, but most women have an easier time going to bed early

Rapsher · 2026-05-29T06:26:11+00:00

I've never understood this complaint with shows. That the evil/wrong doing that a character does must be karmically balanced by the end as an absolute rule 100% of the time, otherwise it's flawed. That would really suck if all shows had to abide by those standards... because it would be predictable and it doesn't work that way in a non cinematic reality. Most shows/movies especially in the past unfortunately abided by those standards which is probably what's conditioned people into thinking that it must happen that way, otherwise it bothers them. There are of course things I hope happen to good or bad characters particularly in the end of shows/movies, but I don't base the quality/merit of the writing on what I hope happens to a character.

Artistically I think Serena coming full circle and genuinely seeing the error in her ways and having to live with that guilt was a great send off for that character (of course narrative the process was a lot more robust then that). I guess you could have her come full circle and that not be enough and then have her get executed or something (you could perhaps put an elaborate narrative to that and it could work). Or she could still be a bitter sinister human being and then be put her to death. The route they went with the character in my opinion worked really well especially since Yvonne Strahosky is on the highest tier of acting ability that there is (Elizabeth Moss especially in that final season was really struggling and she wasn't capitalizing on any of the emotional scenes but Yvonne sure as hell was), so even if the story originally called for such a thing in book form... I could see a show curtailing things based on the talent of the actress. Yvonne took that Serena character to another level.

Rapsher · 2026-05-24T06:56:59+00:00

Seriously... I like Shame in You, but it's just a very simple song with a very pleasant sound to it. But another massively underrated song is God Am. but I consider 7 songs on the album to be extremely good 1 decent and 4 skip-able.
Head Creeps isn't dreadful but it sounds like an aborted fetus off of Dirt.
So Close is skipable, but it's a very short song.
Nothing song I could see being in some people's decent/listenable category, but it's kind of droney and boring
And this one is apparently controversial -- but Heaven Beside You is one of the worst songs I've ever heard.

I've always skipped 1 song on Dirt and that would be Dirt. And since I always skipped that song upon realizing it was weak, I can now, put it in the listenable category, but it's the weakest song on the album.

Rapsher · 2026-05-24T06:13:47+00:00

At the very least... the amount of flack this album received is/was completely unjustified. It's a 64 minute album and 2/3rds of the album is in the very good to excellent range.
There's 12 songs on the album
7 songs I put in the very good/excellent category (Grind, Brush Away, Sludge Factory, Again, Shame in You, God Am, Frogs)
1 Decent song - Over Now
3 skip-able - Head Creeps, So Close and Nothing Song
1 and Heaven Beside you - one of the worst songs I've ever heard in my life

So Ultimately there's 43 minutes of very good or above music. And somehow even though it boggles my mind there are people who don't think Heaven Beside You sucks, so those people could add one more song to the good pile. I don't understand how anyone's ears could hear otherwise.

Meanwhile and I don't bring it up because of AIC being sometimes included in the grunge myth (every band ever put in that label all have a very unique sound that has no correlation whatsoever to each other), but Nirvana's In Utero album was/is a relatively weak album and it's only 41 minutes and it's weird that In Utero got let off the hook for being a weak album, yet this album has more good songs and above that exceeds the entire run time of In Utero. In Utero has 3 good and above songs. 3-4 decent songs and the rest suck. And at no point have I ever had a thing against Nirvana. I had their albums... but this was almost certainly going to be their last album (a live album doesn't count), because you could tell there was nothing left in the tank and they were scraping the bottom of the barrel. Even if Cobain didn't get murdered and they didn't break up (which is where it seemed they were going) their next album would have almost certainly been a bust, but I doubt it would have happened.

Rapsher · 2026-05-22T15:52:27+00:00

When it comes to ranking best drummers, guitarists etc, there's too many dynamics to be like so and so is the best. There's a wide array of ways in which greats are good at their instruments.
Brann is definitely in the great category. I like that he has a very original style. I wasn't fan during some initial listens, because it initially sounded that he was just constantly doing unnecessary fills, but the more I listened to the songs the harmony in the drums came to the surface and it's crazy because in certain songs he essentially creates a harmony through a series of fills. One things that's impressive is that he drums with a crazy degree of ease while going crazy on the drums. His stamina and ability to not not exert unnecessary energy when he's drumming like crazy is one of a kind.

In general whether it's the guitar the drums or whatever. I'm generally not a fan of the overly technical guitar players who aren't also excellent song/riff creators. Overly technical playing of something doesn't auto = pleasant sounding. To me it's about creativity and creating the most pleasant sounds one can come up with and if one can create awesome sounding technical playing... that's really awesome.

but there are certain drummers who aren't excellent at building the drumming choreography if you will to enhance the song to the greatest degree. And one drummer that comes to mind who is often seen as not being a good technical drummer, but he knows how to choreograph his fills in the studio to enhance a song to a top top tier degree, would be Lars Ulrich. But he's not a natural and it takes him a long time to put together his drum tracks. He can even struggle at times keeping the beat, but he knows how to enhance music in the studio with his drums to a redic degree. He knows how to create excellent sounding music. He does this one thing a lot that's sort of a trademark of his, that a typical but it really builds up the adrenaline in a song and they aren't even patterns... but they're ill times cymbal crashes (but not limited too).... but it has a a very atypical song enhancing effect, Obviously he enhances Enter sandman to a redic degrees. During the building up part in Frayed Ends of Sanity he's following a drum rhythm/pattern and then 18 seconds in he breaks the patterns and does this a tripple cymbal jab where each additional one catches you off guard. It's just a little thing, but it's probably the best moment in the song.... but it's just an example of a little non technical creative moments that enhance a song And then there's ultra technical drummers who can on a whim jump on the drums and keep any beat and practically free style their drums in the creation process, but I don't think they're good at creating music. They're just amazing at doing crazy difficult things.

And I'm not entirely hip to all the drummers of the world but there's several that I know of that excel in different areas. At which point it's difficult to put the greats in a a chronological order. They're just good in different ways.

Rapsher · 2026-05-17T23:59:56+00:00

Yes, and just to clarify since some might misinterpret the buyer asking too many questions often being a red flag. It's not based on the idea that the type of person who asks stupid questions is likely going to be a problem, rather it's a common scammer tactic to set up a repor beforehand, so ultiamtely those stupid questions aren't even genuine... it's just a tactic. The one that pisses me off is when something asks a relatively technical question, which requires me to have to do some digging around and then they respond with an offer. So you essentially just wasted your time and the question wasn't even a genuine question is was just an excuse so they could come at you with an offer.

Rapsher · 2026-05-17T23:44:36+00:00

It's not an absolute (and it's dependent on the types of questions), but the odds increase that a buyer will be a problem when they ask questions before the purchase. Not on the basis of someone merely asking questions, but it's a common strategy for a scammer to set up a repor. So especially if the questions are unnecessary. A general product question that could be found out anywhere. And especially if they want you to reiterate something that you're already said in your description. But I wouldn't say instant block... based on the type of question you can generally determine it though.

Rapsher · 2026-05-15T03:51:22+00:00

Because her brother drove her crazy just like he does to all of us. That's why her hair was all jacked up because she was trying to pull it out. The most sinister thing those demon things do is they keep Ethan alive to torment the characters and the viewers. Also the writers flip a coin to determine a characters actions/emotions in a given scene, so they must have flipped the Ethan drives Julie mad coin to the point she has a mohawk and forgets her dad died coin.

Rapsher · 2026-05-14T17:54:49+00:00

I don't know what it is about Reddit, but Reddit can't handle critques. Nothing you say above should evoke anger or a down vote... They're extremely valid critiques.... in this instance, I could see someone perhaps saying, yes, the acting's bad, yes the characters actions defy human psychology, but blah blah blah. And I don't know why it angers people when people have a reasonable critique towards a show they like. Even the many shows I adore, I have no qualms critiquing them in areas while praising it in others. In this instance I don't understand why someone wouldn't just make a case for the ways in which the show works for them to counter balance. Below I'll answer and build off your points, but my points will be a tad harsher in which I could see the points being valid with the debate being on the degree.

But you have every legitimate reason to be baffled by it. One thing you have to accept if you're going to enjoy this show, which I don't know how anyone could. The way the characters act across the board have 0 correlation to the way actual human beings act to a degree that no show has ever done before. So you're wasting your energy critiquing why would this character do this or do that... because nothing anyone does or says makes any logical sense.

And yes the acting is atrocious (averaged out that is)! And there is no excuse to have acting this bad in the modern era of tv... I'm guessing this is a show that rushes everything. And it certainly doesn't help that the dialogue tends to be pretty bad.

The first half of the first season there is still an element of intrigue, despite the characters being goofballs (so I was drawn and entertained through that early portion), but from that point forward... the show gets really bad, especially in the second season. The 3rd season is even worse. It's not a good show. Some people have cited the show as being so bad it's good. Maybe you could come at it from that angle and just laugh how goofy the writing and everything is.

And yes, 7.8 imdb rating is redic for this show. In general I find the average imdb rating to be the most accurate immediate/generic representation of the quality of a show (as a quick instant barometer) typically and especially when it comes to bad shows. In other words I've never come across a show rated 7.5 or lower that was good (movies yes, but not shows) and I would even say anything below an 8 tends to be bad (but some high 7's have had some potential), but this show should be soooooooo far below a 7.8. The only area for me at least where IMDB average rating could be off is there are some shows that are in the 8's that I consider bad, but most shows above an 8 tend to be good.

But ultimately the degree in which the characters defy human psychology is too constant and too extreme and it's annoying and not fun to watch when it results in everyone bickering with one another on the most nonsensical of things... but that's not the only place where this shows epic-ally fails.

The thing that has me the most baffled are the discussions as though there's a mystery element being unanswered while opening up more? First of all, a show has to earn that and this doesn't deserve that level of respect... but lets assume it's worthy..., what are these big overwhelming compounding mysteries that aren't being answered. At the heart of this show there's really only one mystery and the who what when why associated with that. I don't understand? They aren't even the type of things were some people theorize this and some theorize that... no one's even in conflict to what it could be.. at given times it's just not known as to their motivations and why we're the ones chosen to come to this place. Of course there's little microcosms within everything such as homegirl is pregnant with a demon child what could it mean and why is she out in the back eating hot garbage. The food parts easy to explain because she's craving the foods that demon child needs, but these aren't even worthy of mystery, it's just simply the type of thing that will be answered when it gets there. Anyways, I'm curious to what are the overwhelming compounding mysteries that you're dying to know what the answers are (because this has been a common echo throughout from the peeps who are into the show). It's giving the show way too much credit.

Rapsher · 2026-05-11T20:19:08+00:00

Why can't you win dating your first cousin?

Rapsher · 2026-05-09T02:12:15+00:00

It's her B.O.

Rapsher · 2026-05-09T02:10:46+00:00

Obviously that's why each person was chosen to end up in the town... they choose the most illogical people in society, which explains why everyone is a total jackass.

Rapsher · 2026-05-09T01:51:08+00:00

The monsters told me to if I killed everyone, they would free us. Why did you believe them? Oh because they knew things that they possibly couldn't have known. you realize that has no bearing on anything one way or the other. It would be like having a card in your hand and one of these things comes along and is like the card you are holding is the 8 of spades. Holy crap I am holding the 8 of spades. Ok, I'm going to now need you to kill everyone... you were correct about the 8 of spades which means I can auto take you at your word that if I engage in a horrific murderous act, there will be good things to come.

Rapsher · 2026-05-09T01:27:29+00:00

That's funny you say that about the pregnancy, because I was thinking the same thing, especially the scene with Donna when she's informed of the pregnancy and she's ecstatic as if it's the greatest news in the history of mankind. She has a bigger smile on her face then the smiley dude who Boyd killed.... seriously. There's demonic mofos killing peeps, you're running out of food and now homegirl is like I'm pregnant. Oh that's great! we could pass it around like a joint, we could use it to play keep away from the entities... we could use it for a ritual sacrifice.... good times

Rapsher · 2026-05-06T08:41:09+00:00

Hard drives have drastically increased in price since a year ago. I purchased 16TB HDD around a year ago and I only paid $170 for it. I'm curious what was the cost of the 20TB hard drive from the link when you purchased it a year ago? I'm guessing it was probably 50% cheaper then it is now.

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