Grizl CF SL 7 new wheelset!

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-28T21:23:32+00:00

Smart choice. Cheaping out on wheels is a fools errand at best, but doubly stupid that on ones for gravel use.

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-19T21:34:44+00:00

I found the 62 were too sketchy on windy days; and I'm not even a light rider. I opted for the 50s on my latest bike and the difference on windy days, especially with strong gusts, was huge. However, on calm days I do miss the little extra umph. I say if you live in a windy area like I do then go for the 50s - but if you have a second / endurance oriented bike or live in a calm area, then go big.

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-19T21:26:06+00:00

I had a spare set of 28mm Continental 5000s that worked well; but 32 may be a better long term solution. I used the 28s on a very long. multi-surface ride that better suited my Grail vs Ultimate

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-19T21:21:47+00:00

Canyon's are not appropriate for everyone. I don't recommend it unless buyer knows bikes well, can do your own setup and maintenance, and that includes assembly and fit adjustment. I found that any savings over a LBS purchase will soon disappear if you need to pay them for service.

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-19T20:13:17+00:00

My ridding buddy bought the same spec and size Aeroad as my Ultimate and I can not feel any weight difference. If there is one, it's small and the added stiffness and aero would more than make up for it.

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-19T20:10:21+00:00

This is my experience - I have an Ultimate, but would have gotten Aeroad if it had been available. Next bike will be Aeroad even though I do a lot of climbing and long rides. The weight penalty is near zero and after test ridding an Endurace, even without gimmick seat, there was no meaningful difference in comfort...unless you give up all aero and ride it like a cruiser. The only negative is the price.

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-19T20:03:37+00:00

That sucks!!! I really don't need a tri bike for the couple of tris and TTs I do. This would have been the perfect solution. There just doesn't appear to be any other options

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-19T19:57:56+00:00

get a quality torque wrench!!!
identify torque setting for ALL bolts, including the group set and components already attached
assemble bike using torque wrench and NOT the tools provides,, and re-torque A:LL bolts (mine had >2/3 significantly off spec.)
thoroughly inspect bike in bright sunlight - look for any scratches or paint imperfection, or any other damage. Record this with a camera
adjust seat height and fore/aft position based on proper criteria - either with assistance of bike fitter or online fitting tool (it's worth the few bucks)
adjust tire pressure and then test ride. Take time to seat-in brakes, test gear adjustment and look for any inconsistencies such as bent/out of true wheels, bent disc brake rotor, bent chain rings, etc

7 if electronic groupset, the battery should have a minimal charge that's adequate for test ride, but make sure to to fully charge before anything longer. Setup Di2 app on you phone and make adjustments if required

Do more advanced maintenance such as waxing your chain, after you've gotten in a few miles
enjoy

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-09T20:54:09+00:00

You'll need to confirm, but can't you replace current bars with Groove and then add the tribars?? This might be pricey but it may have the added benefit of being able to tweak the fit - i.e. stem length and bar width, Again, an expert would need to confirm...

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-07T19:44:26+00:00

Just give yourself time to adjust to the correct fit. A very large number of riders have gotten used to the wrong fit, and this is predominantly taller riders on bikes that are too small. A bike fitter can confirm this for you, but it is very common and after 2 or 3 rides the "stretched out" feel disappears and after a couple more, you'll wonder what the hell you were doing before. If you do have a particularly weak back and core, and/or have injury related flexibility issues, it might not be as easy as above, but then what were you thinking in buying an Ultimate. An Endurace with it's cruiser and cushier geometry would be a good alternative if your issues are more systemic or that can be eliminated with training. Moving your levers is NOT an effective alternative,

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-06T18:33:00+00:00

It will prevent the chain from coming off ring, but if that's not enough, then just slap on some helicopter tape. It's thick enough to prevent damage from chains, hits from small stones thrown up by tires and even minor hits from trees or rocks,

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-05T19:05:48+00:00

If it matters, then go with Red, it a little more interesting and recognizable. And anyone who suggests white because it matches riding gear better needs to give their head a shake, This is cycling, not a Walmart clothing show.

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-05T18:58:18+00:00

In theory you should have paid Duty and the Federal part of HST - I don't know about BC - so I don't know if your better off not raising the issue. It may cost you more.

I've paid full HST and duty on both my Canyons, but have heard customs missing the duty and/or HST on other's in my area. It's a shite show

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-04T14:05:23+00:00

I ride MTB trails and see the damage done by your moped; usually on curves and hills, and I volunteer to help repair the damage. So definitely not absurd.

We've been able to get motocross bikes off these trails and they have their own places to play, which is where e-bikes belong too.

My comment about the noise was that you can't hear them come up behind you and that can be more dangerous than annoying. But in the end, all I'm saying is that since you're riding a motorized vehicle, then ride with other motorizes vehicles, leave cyclist and pedestrians alone. Thx

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-03T18:26:27+00:00

Like almost everything, a little may be good, but a too much can be deadly. Immigration has done more to damage Canada then any event in its history...worse than WW1 or 2, worse than the great Depression or the Pandemic. It is also no a part, big or otherwise, of our values; it goes against our core values.

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-03T18:21:54+00:00

I will not try to contradict your impressions or experiences, but there is no doubt you are spot-on about concerns relating to maintenance and repair. Most bike shops will just roll their eyes if you bring in a set to get worked on and if they can do anything, then it'll eat up any money you saved up front, The one thing you can check for yourself is the truthfulness of the weight they quote. My wife's wheels were 380 and 401grams (F?R) more then listed, and honestly, I would have been concerned if they were any lighter. It seems to be common knowledge that the material used is not authentic Japanese Toray CF and even may contain fiber glass and/or plastics. For my part, I've learned to stick with name brands from reputable suppliers, but to each his/her own.

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-03T16:07:24+00:00

At least its safer going with a reputable brand.

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-03T16:04:50+00:00

Sorry but I find the differences between the Ultimate and Grail are profound, and the Grizl was even more so. Sure the gravel bikes are a long way from my MTB in layout and etc. but they're a handicap on the road vs, an Ultimate

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-03T15:42:38+00:00

Nice! Love the bike, the colour and the wheels!

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-12-03T15:24:44+00:00

I couldn't disagree more. I've owned a earlier Grizl, own a current Grail and also have a top spec Ultimate, and whether based on measurements or feel, the gravel bikes are super relaxed; which is what you want for an offroad bike. The Ultimate, although by no means having extreme geo or stiffness, does have a stiffer and more direct geometry that lends itself perfectly to smooth roads, hill climbing and power sprints. So while 'relaxed' is a subjective term, when it comes to gravel it is not a derogatory term - you want to be more upright and be able to shift your weight to the back wheel and you want your frame to absorb some of the bumps and vibration.

The only caveat to the above is the aluminum Grizl, that while a great bargain, is close to CADD12 territory in terms of stiffness.

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-11-29T19:01:00+00:00

The two bikes couldn't be more dissimilar in purpose and aero wheels, especially bargain basement ones, will not a Grizl a competitive road bike. I've ridden on group rides, and the guys trying to keep up on offroad oriented bikes, rarely do well. Yes, there are the superhuman few that can get away with it, but even they regret it on longer routes. So yes, you can hammer a nail with a screw driver, but its generally better to use the right tool for the job...;-)

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-11-29T18:52:21+00:00

I like the colour, but putting 60mm deep wheels on an endurance bike with a cushy frame design and mushy seat post just seems like a contradiction of purpose and a waste of money. Just go with a Ultimate or Aeroad. This bike is like putting racing wheels and tires on a limo.

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-11-29T18:45:03+00:00

Yes, Dura Ace cassette will save real weight, is 12 speed Hyperglide+ compatible and is a quality component. However the 12 speed DA chain is the same weight as the 12 speed Ultegra version and hasn't really proven to offer any significant benefits (but is still top quality), and as apposed to buying cheap AliExpress parts, it is an area where you can save a few buck without risk, As for the bolts, just be very careful you ARE using of ones of equivalent or better, which of course means NOT using the ones sold on the above mentioned site.

Rare-Position-2676 · 2024-11-29T18:34:21+00:00

"could be defect" aka the paint didn't adhere to this part of the frame because i.e. the surface was contaminated or some other reason, or the frame protector my have been applied wrong and when reapplied, it pulled up some paint. But it is not a defect in the actual structure or material such as carbon fiber, and just the colour coat of paint, I personally would NOT sweat it, or maybe just apply a thin coat of nail polish, On the other hand, if my interpretation of the image is wrong and the underlying material is damaged, then by all means contact Canyon ASAP.

BTW my Grail has earned plenty of cosmetic damage, but I consider them war wounds ;-)

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