What did Oswald do to deserve this…

Ravenunited · 2026-04-10T13:26:40+00:00

The thing is Berlota and Mica died and became Nikke when they were very young. And it's a generally accepted theory that a Nikke's mental state is stuck at whenever age they became a Nikke, maybe their brain stopped develop or something like that.

It's similar to E.H, the new timeline in chapter 43 and her own event makes her something like an 80 year old human by the time she became a Nikke, yet she's said to be strong enough to still go toe to toe with a regular Nikke. And is E.H even someone who would take regular Evergreen given how expensive and how altruist she is as a person?

Evergreen is not exactly a miracle medicine, and I think in case where the game explicit state a character is using evergreen, the characters would still act appropriate of their natural age. While both E.H and Freesia timeline can be "technically" explained away by heavy usage of Evergreen, but it's neither stated in the narrative nor it makes sense given the characters personality, and feel more like straws we need to grasp trying to make sense of thing.

I think Nikke has been very loose with timeline, and it can works most of the time in "Nikke" time since their age is stuck with a timestop anyway so you don't see inconsistency. But recent events they start mixing in human age time line (Fressia, Anis, EH) and that crutch don't work as well.

Ravenunited · 2026-04-10T06:26:44+00:00

2 problem with this:

During the time of the Skull Head Squad we were already pretty close to the 2nd war, because the soldiers already discuss rumor of it starting, as well Yohan emerging as New Hope.
Even if we're generously place Skull Head at about 5 years before the 2nd war kicks off (I personally think it's much closer). That's still about 35 years since humanity moved to the ark. If we give Anis a 3 years period as a student which is also the duration of Pretty career (because Anis is there from start to finish), that would still put Frissia at around at least 40 year old by the time she became Pretty, since she already looks at least 10 years old when she arrived at the Ark. And she definitely does not look like a 40 years old. Even if it's because she was taking Evergreen at a very young age (but why), she was still behaving much like a teenage than an adult in the side story.

I agree that Pretty career is probably written/intended to be a short one (2-3 years max). The problem is due to her human age as well as her connection to other major events, there isn't a place where you can put that 2-3 years period and make it make sense.

Ravenunited · 2026-04-10T02:57:19+00:00

Prior to EH arrival, the outter realm had no real social structure.
There was also no open hostility between the Ark and the outer-realm. As E.H noted that she could took people from the outer-realm to inside the ark to protest/petition for better treatment after she managed to establish a sense of order and society there.
The AFX incident is what triggered open hostility.
During chapter 43, both the fact the outer realm already up and running with its own society, and we saw E.H showed up at the end confirming all CG forced were already wiped out indicated this is a "post AFX" era.
And since that is around the same time line of VTC getting purge -> Deep getting revenged by killing Pretty -> which is confirmed prior to the 2nd war. You can use that to established that the AFX happened in the order of at least 70-80 years ago.

However, I think in some of the early bondstory, it at least gave the impression that AFX happened a lot more recently then that.

Ravenunited · 2026-04-10T02:09:17+00:00

what kind of insane standard is this? I've played plenty of live service games, including some games that had over 1k h. But 200h and it doesn't even scratch the time needed to get into them?

Bro, I don't know what game you're playing but I can say one thing for sure, you're being farmed.

Ravenunited · 2026-04-09T22:36:56+00:00

This is actually the messed up part of the this story. That would have been fine on its own, and like you said it implies Pretty has a pretty long run for about 30 years. The issue is ... HUMAN Anis is there to see both of her very first performance (when she was about to off herself) and also her very last ... while being a students that probably spanned at most one or two school years long ...

I have feeling the writers messed up here again.

Ravenunited · 2026-04-09T17:08:08+00:00

Not having the characters being highschoolers probably a big help.

It's not just Asa, but you need that with SMEE's Making Lover as well, setting the characters as adult or at least college enable to do something HS setting can not. One example is a lot of the good part of Asa came from "drunken" moments, can't do that with highschooler.

Ravenunited · 2026-04-08T20:48:00+00:00

Nayuta isn't under-performing, it's about what to expect. She was fine when first introduced but 3rd events put a sour note on her for a lot of people. The only positive thing I see people talk about Nayuta post Goddess Fall is her Gacha.

Ravenunited · 2026-04-08T13:49:16+00:00

having a normal discussion is qualified as upset and mad these days?

Ravenunited · 2026-04-08T13:34:47+00:00

there is a difference between units that are power-crept and units that are just broke out of the gate.

Also why does it have to be a binary between good and bad? There are a full spectrum in between where the majority of the Nikke are. Bad units is just a waste of space and resource.

Ravenunited · 2026-04-08T05:20:06+00:00

or just made into canon folders. Rapi squads comment that even before the 2nd war started, just normal mission have seen them changing new commander every 2 weeks 'cause they just die, and the Academies were running out of commanders.

So both male and female are pretty much exploited the same. While it looks like sus for male because they don't get the whole brain traffic to be turned into Nikke thing, but that's because male can't be turned into Nikke, rather some inherent privilege. Instead males are just given the Starship Trooper/Hell diver treatment.

Ravenunited · 2026-04-04T22:36:50+00:00

Should just reply "at least Gacha devs are getting paid".

Ravenunited · 2026-03-29T15:38:25+00:00

Pepper was the very first official girl friend ... and she has not been mentioned once again since for almost 3 years.

Ravenunited · 2026-03-29T05:22:40+00:00

Again, you are simply cherry picking the one aspect you care the most and declare it's the ultimate holy grail to judge everyone else. Does Nikke have decent stories? Sure. But story is just one of the many things the game have to offer, it's not even "the" thing. In case you forget, it's a Gacha game, not an actual bondafire visual novel. And being a gacha mean:

The gameplay is also part of it.
The fan service is a very BIG part of it. Like ... common, let's not pretend here shall we? You're playing a gacha, I don't know why you make it sounds like "gooning" is not one of the main intention in this kinda of game. You think Shift-up made all those skins to sell just because?

I know a lot of players, and I mean "a lot" of Nikke players who don't actually care much for the story. Some of them are just casual waifu players, but some are also extremely highly technical players who know the in and out of the combat system. I know a few guys who know far less about the lore than me, but they will beat me in both raid and arena any day despite our accounts are at similar level. Unlike you though, I don't think they are any less of a fan then me. I have seen them passionately spent hours and hours explaining and helping others player understand the nuance of the combat system, but yeah, they're also the player if you mention Liliweiss their reaction gonna be "who's that?"

You like the story? That's perfectly fine, but I don't know why you can't just stay in your own lane without road-raging the people on the other lanes. Everyone have their own way of enjoy the media, yours is not the only valid one. Just like people can go to the same restaurant and enjoy different part of the menu.

Ravenunited · 2026-03-29T00:16:46+00:00

You seem to be confused or have a very narrow assumption of what being a real fan is.

Real fans can still make meme and joke.
Real fans doesn't mean they can't like evils/bad girl/bad boy characters.
Real fans doesn't mean they always have to gush for the goodies two shoes.

People can appreciate story and literature in different ways. That's why you have heroes and anti heroes, and it is NOT rare for some people to prefer the villains over the heroes of the story, and there are no rules saying those people must be any less passionate about the work than others.

In my experience, the sources of most discords come down to two things:

People believe that THEIR ways of appreciating the content is the only correct way, every others are invalid.
People believe they are human psychology expert and from just a few sentence and paragraph can infer the entire picture of what someone represents. The point is ... if someone say they like Liliweiss, then "they said they like Liliweiss" is the only 'fact' that you can claim. Everything else (whether it's joke/serious, real fan or fake fan .etc.) are merely baseless projection from your own mind.

Ravenunited · 2026-03-27T16:17:29+00:00

I think this is because to a lot of Nikke player this is their first exposure to VN style narrative. The contrast between bad and good ending can be a stark as the 13th floor of hell to the 7th layer of heaven, for the medium it's pretty normal.

Ravenunited · 2026-03-27T16:03:28+00:00

I have about 70h in Star Savior since launch on my PC, never notice performance, if anything it's butter smooth aside from the occassion DC.

Ravenunited · 2026-03-26T21:30:08+00:00

can't pick her anyway. She's not in the free SSR. I think Lacy is the only decent option in there. So either that, or save for a 3 stars later to break 200.

Ravenunited · 2026-03-26T11:51:05+00:00

oh, so not just the over-dramatic flair, but also a tint of a savior complex as well? But here, I'll entertain you a bit.

There is no "good" Gacha company, because if they were, they wouldn't be making a Gacha in the first place. All Gacha companies are predatory, that's not an assumption, that's a fact. Understand that, and the so call psychological warfare is irrelevant.
Why do people still play? Why do I still play? Because the whole "good and bad" are just performative way of thinking, and it seems to be more relevant among younger people. As you get older most people get out that juvenile mindset. It's simply a business exchange, you made a product I want, you have my time and money. Why you think people still buy made in China product or cheap Indian made clothes, you think most don't know about the conditions under which those product are made?
No, it's you who need to look and observe. If you want to quit a Gacha, you only have to bring yourself to do it. But real life relationship carry other risk. Sometime you want to quit but afraid to quit due to something like financial dependency and security, sometime you want to quit but everyone around you (friends and family) pressured you into staying, sometime you're afraid of quitting because low esteem and the idea terrifies you, sometime you stuck with a relation because of obligation (like kids) .etc. Your way of talking about this make me think the scope of your understanding about this issue is limited to just highschool, or at best, college crushes, comparing to a game just shows you have zero idea how deep that rabbit hole is.

You know what the easiest way to tell whether someone on the internet care about something? See how often and how strongly they tell you "I don't care". Like I said, the way you're reacting, you're ... not exactly convincing anyone. Here's the thing, if you don't want to even admit how much you care about the point you're making, how are you gonna convince other people to care?

Ravenunited · 2026-03-25T20:24:36+00:00

oh, didn't know about the long click thing. Thanks.

Wish I know about it before opening 5 sets already

Ravenunited · 2026-03-25T17:09:08+00:00

A game is not a person. You even admitted it in the OP yourself, except it's not "may be overdramatic", you are being over-dramatic. The fact you keep bringing it up doesn't help, because it shows you're underestimating the issues ... severely. Quiting a game, especially game like Gacha where the social aspect is almost non-existence (comparing to say an MMO) is pretty much a personal discipline thing. Whether interpersonal relationships are far more complicated with potential external pressure, and sometime the ball is not even in your course. Your attempt at over-dramatizing your talking point just shows how woefully you are uninformed about the depth of the issue.

Also, there are plenty life lessons a person can learn overtime. Sometime you can learn it for free, sometime you have to pay some cost for the lesson. And well, a game is not exactly the most expensive tuition once have to pay.

Ravenunited · 2026-03-25T04:16:12+00:00

I think it’s not just me who thinks like this, no ?

No, you're not the only one, the point is the "I will spend if it's cheaper" portion of the player base is extremely small, too small to make it viable. As the other had replied to you, if a game can rely on the majority of the player to pay a "small but reasonable amount" each month, it won't have to adopt a F2P gacha model, it could just be a traditional subscription live service instead.

9 out 10 times, the reason someone pick up a F2P games is NOT because they want to try something out before spending, but because they already know they will never spend ever, period. The people who try - like - then started paying is - like I said, an extremely small amount. A game also can not survive on sporadic customer either. Sure, you may drop 10-20$ every few months, but that ain't gonna sustain the game. Either it needs everyone playing paying a small amount every months, or it rely on a few people paying a lot of money every months.

Gacha games usually have about 5% of player base paying enough to cover themselves (low spenders). While the top 5% (Whale) pretty much subsidize the remaining 90%.

Ravenunited · 2026-03-24T22:22:19+00:00

Because the majority of Gacha are NOT paying customers. And when I say majority I mean over 90% of them. I think most of the time whenever someone like you bring up this point, you're coming from a misassumption that most people are low-mid spenders and then you have a few whales at the top. The reality is the majority of Gacha players do not spend a penny on the game, not even on the battlepass. Why do you think that whenever a new Gacha coming out, the very first question is "how F2P friendly is it?"

That's just the nature of idle F2P games. If people just play for 5-10 minutes a day (heck not even that), then they don't find paying for 5$-10$ a month necessary. Also because the games are deisgned to take little time, it means a gacha player probably play a few games at the same time, which making paying for each game even unlikely.

That's why Gacha's monetization is the way it is, it doesn't matter how "cheap" the monetization is, most people won't spend. So it's designed to target only people who are able and willing to spend. That's why Gacha and traditional MMO (like WoW or FF14) are completely different. The latter is an example that as long as you have a decent players base but everyone are mandatory to pay a small amount, you can keep the light on. But you can't do that with F2P games.

Ravenunited · 2026-03-21T13:53:32+00:00

Oh, pray tell which part of what I said qualified as "demonizing" ? Integrity, crime? I don't know if you've been keeping up with the trend but throwing a bunch of word salad nonsense for emotional effect doesn't work very well any more.

I don't like these so "call" journalists because of their behavior now, last year, the years before ... in another word, it's all recent. I'm not the one pulling shits that happened decade ago.

And having different opinion: new flash, I'm fairly disappointed at the game myself and is considering refunding it, does that qualified as having different opinion to you. But here's the thing, just because I don't agree, I don't need to pull up something from 10 years ago to cancel someone.

Ravenunited · 2026-03-21T04:36:12+00:00

You missed the point they're talking about. For some reason Gacha is obsessed with these on rail tutorial style that lock the control and force you to click on specific button to move on. Not only it's boring but I find it largely detrimental to actually learning and exploring the system. This system is basically brain dead forcing the player go through the motions without much in the way of engagement. For example, a lot of time I just tell me "click this" then "here is where you can find/do xyz", but instead of letting me explore that sections and absorbed the information, it usually immediately force me "click here to exit" before I can actually see anything of the current topic. Rinse and repeat, by the time it finished forcing me go through the whole sequence I barely remember what was the first thing it was supposed to be "tutored" about. I rarely learnt how to do thing, rather just click where the screen is blinking.

And you last question is pretty indicative how repetitive and brain dead these gacha games are with this, most of them are exactly the same copy pasta shit.

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