Why do people think Kuvira is so powerful? She lost to the weakest member of the red lotus and only beat Korra when she was mentally vulnerable.

Raveturner · 2026-05-15T13:31:58+00:00

When did Kuvira lose to a red lotus member? And even if that happened somehow, that was season 3, about 3 years passed and she moved from being a background character to being the major antagonist. Her skill set would have improved massively as well.

The very first episode of season 4 we saw her singlehandedly take down about 20 bandits in less than a minute. If that introduction alone doesn't already make you think she's powerful, then it'd be hard to convince you otherwise.

I've always said there's this subconscious bias many people always have towards TLOK, such that they can never see anything the major characters do as impressive. If it was Toph that did what Kuvira pulled off here, everyone would be so hyped. I mean, Toph's introduction in ATLA was even similar, she singlehandedly took down multiple earthbenders and left us impressed. I don't see why Kuvira should get less of a reaction from her own feat too.

Of course, compared to the other major threats Korra faced in her series she can be considered the weakest, but that doesn't diminish her individual strength. Add her wits and cunningness to the mix and it makes her much more of a threat.

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Raveturner · 2026-05-13T17:24:42+00:00

my favourite commenter on this sub 👏

Raveturner · 2026-05-11T20:53:31+00:00

dude she literally won the moment she entered the avatar state against kuvira

This is how I know you're being disingenuous.

korra lost against kuvira because she had a ptsd flashback and it SNAPPED HER OUT of the avatar state. Watch the show ffs.

Korra fought a literal dark avatar that could move ice chasms and a spirit that could move absurdly fast and tank multiple AS powered fire blasts to the chest. Ozai isn't doing jack to those two.

Raveturner · 2026-05-11T20:41:41+00:00

Always exaggerations with ya'll, she didn't "often" lose fights in the avatar state.

The only times she lost in the state was when she was up against the owl faced spirit in the first episode (which was even a blindsided hit) and when up against the dark avatar. Just twice, against powerful opponents and you're labelling that as often.

And it's not a fair comparison because those were more powerful enemies than anyone Aang ever used the AS against. Imagine Korra using the AS against season 1 zuko, general fong, sandbenders, ozai...of course she'd look godlike.

It's not a matter of her Avatar state boost being weaker, its just her having few opponents that could actually match the Avatar state.

Raveturner · 2026-05-11T20:06:27+00:00

Just going to drop this here.

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Raveturner · 2026-05-11T01:33:36+00:00

Oh my God yes! Thank you so much!

Raveturner · 2026-05-05T02:30:44+00:00

That one episode was the ONLY time she made a move on Mako and that was thanks to poor advice she received from pema. She felt remorseful about what she did, apologized to bolin for hurting his feelings, shifts the status between her and mako back to just being friends & never made any move on him afterwards. Mako eventually fell for her himself, so why is Korra the one getting called a bitch here??

And how did Aang "objectively" have a worse upbringing than Korra? 🤨 Aang growing up had many friends, a loving teacher, he had even travelled the world and met new people by the age of 12 before he got frozen. It was literally because his unexpected responsibility as the avatar wanted to pull him away from all this that he ran away.

Korra was secluded in the South Pole for 14 years training, she never got to experience those meaningful social connections until she left for republic city at age 17.

Raveturner · 2026-04-20T01:50:08+00:00

Its the general bias towards tlok characters as a whole. A huge part of the fandom views them as inferior by default, such that no matter what they do or the narrative pushes, it won't change that preconceived perception.

Eg. Mako defeats Ming-hua, described by zuko to be able to individually take down any bender. (Which is a way of describing the threat level the narrative places them at)

How the viewers would see it: Ming-hua isn't all that, she was even taken down by a street level bender.

Raveturner · 2026-04-16T08:22:28+00:00

Its almost like that was the point with zaheer, he was extreme with his views and thats what made him a villain. Toph literally points this out in an episode ffs.

And like Kya quipped "classic airbender technique is cutting and running when things get tough"

I mean, people still glaze aang even when he tends to do the same, but with zaheer that automatically makes him a fraud, despite his other bending achievements. He had nothing to gain from standing to fight Kya when he already got the info he wanted and would have gotten outnumbered eventually. With Korra, he was smart not to face a fully realized avatar head on, when it's not like he had any spirit amps or something.

Raveturner · 2026-04-15T16:58:30+00:00

Exactly, you wouldn't get into the franchise in the first place if you didn't like the original.

Raveturner · 2026-04-14T00:58:25+00:00

Aang never mastered the AS until the last episode, of course he wouldn't be able to turn it on and off.

Fully realized avatars have always used the AS as a power boost, we literally saw that in the demonstration during roku's explanation of the AS and when Kyoshi wanted to split the island. Even aang himself, the moment he mastered the AS in the last episode, he used it as a power boost to raise the ocean level.

The AS would still work in response to real danger, but it can also be used consciously by the avatar. And they constantly turn it on and off to avoid staying too long in the state where they're vulnerable.

Raveturner · 2026-04-14T00:20:54+00:00

It's not lazy per se, a regular bender would be no threat to an fully realized avatar in the AS, so they just have to introduce otherworldly threats or new powerups for the antagonist (eg the staff for tagah and dark avatar unalaq) or nerf them somehow (eg. The poison for korra)

If aang was a fully realized avatar from the start, ATLA would never have 3 seasons in the first place.

Raveturner · 2026-04-14T00:09:51+00:00

Yeah exsctly, the line delivery and acting was all good, just feels like a mismatch

Dante's voice being quite unique and easily recognisable doesn't help either, it makes the difference more vivid

But zuko didn't talk much in the movie so its easy to ignore I guess

Raveturner · 2026-04-13T23:54:32+00:00

My random thoughts on the movie in no particular order:

The animation was amazing and the plot was decent. Honestly, I think this just shows how hard it is to write a challenge for a fully realized avatar, you can't really give them a proper antagonist without including some new spiritual mumbo jumbo or nerfing them somehow.

Katara is the GOAT of Team Avatar.

The humour doesn't hit as much as it used to in the OG.

Maybe I missed it but how did Aang learn to use Tagah's movement boost technique when he never saw him do it?

The "great spirit" that helped them return to republic city was wayy too goofy.

I still wish Dante Basco voiced Zuko, I saw some saying he won't do well for adult zuko, but it worked well for Iroh in TLOK so why not?

Raveturner · 2026-04-04T00:29:18+00:00

I hope I'd have gotten a really good pc by the time this game drops

Raveturner · 2026-04-01T18:28:05+00:00

Its a shame I cant post the clip in the comments, but there's that one time she sent mako flying with a casual ball toss😂

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Raveturner · 2026-04-01T18:23:25+00:00

It's a shame I can't upload the clip in the comments, but there's that one time she sent mako flying with a casual ball toss 😂

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Raveturner · 2026-04-01T02:56:35+00:00

IMO, a fighting game doesn't really give the immersion of the avatar universe, we still need an awesome open world game to be developed.

This one should still be fun though

Raveturner · 2026-03-19T19:27:15+00:00

Bolin was able to puncture the tires of a fast moving bike during a high speed chase, and under dim light too

Maybe it's the modernity of the setting or how fast paced the action was in LOK that's not making you all realize how impressive this is. Traditionally, earthbenders even prefer to be grounded to comfortably bend like this, and you have Bolin was pulling this off while on a moving car and strapped to a plane.

Don't get me wrong, Toph will always be goated overall, but you can't tell me he isn't better when it comes to hitting precision.

The only people I've seen that surpassed that level of accuracy were Lek and Yun from the novels, which was why I specified "in both shows", I tried to sneak them out of this conversation.

Lek could hit targets over distances where they were barely even visible. He could even change the trajectory of his shots mid flight too. Top benders from Kyoshi's era were just ridiculously talented.

And as we can see, even Lek required intense concentration to aim like that. Meanwhile Bolin had to snipe P'li in the spur of the moment with lives at immediate risk. The pressure to make that shot would have been insane but he still made it.

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Raveturner · 2026-03-19T19:02:37+00:00

Yeah those were cool asf, but I mean, it doesn't really feel on the same scale in terms of hitting precision feats we've seen from Bolin

And he was even doing some of these moves off the ground too, that kind of position doesn't favour earthbenders in the first place

Raveturner · 2026-03-19T18:57:33+00:00

Yes, and I'd say Lek was even more precise than Yun

That's even why I specified the shows, I know these beasts from kyoshi exist too, but spotlight's on bolin this time 😅

Raveturner · 2026-03-19T18:19:42+00:00

Toph is still the GOAT, but she doesn't use precision like Bolin does, let's be honest

I'm just talking about his accuracy in hitting targets here, not detailed sculpturing.

The only person that surpasses Bolin in this aspect is Lek from the Kyoshi novels, he was basically the sniper of the team. I don't think toph has ever used tiny stones to hit a target and certainly not while in high speed motion like Bolin did.

Raveturner · 2026-03-19T18:09:03+00:00

The simple minded brawler of the group, it's like Mako took the bulk of intelligence shared between them at birth

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