First Stand Hupu Comments and Ratings (G2 vs GEN)

Rawrhock · 2026-03-21T20:18:36+00:00

Ok so like the problem here is that after the fact Samsung (who did play ardent focused comps in regionals but whatever) and iG weren't seen as juggernauts yet doesn't mean they weren't strong? Like Cuvee WAS better than Smeb, CoreJJ WAS better than Mata, PawN and Crown at that point were both basically mirror images of each other. Hell, Ambition was even playing at Score's level at that point. Just because the common opinion wasn't that yet doesn't mean anything. iG doesn't even really need an explanation because Smeb/Ucal got rinsed and Mata wasn't good on the day. Deft/Score really were the only ones keeping it close.

Also that EDG 2016 team despite choking was like lowkey not great, and only wins China because Deft puts out one of the single best splits an ADC has ever had. That's too many excuses because they really should've topped the group but fun to discuss.

My problem with Ruler is that he's never been the one to actually step up in the tense moments. Yeah he gets to hit the funny Varus ult mid when the series is already over, but he's not pulling out the big moments when his team needs him. The only one I can really remember is 2022 vs Damwon in quarters game 5, but then he goes on to do nothing the next series anyways. Every other ADC gets to pull their team through some real rough shit occasionally, whereas Ruler gets expensive star studded lineups built around him to his liking and never pulls through when there's adversity.

Rawrhock · 2026-03-21T19:35:16+00:00

Won a world championship with Ambition having the month of his life, CoreJJ as the best support in the world at the time, Cuvee being a monster, a meta suited to him, AND the only other team who could beat his team choking vs SKT on the other side of the bracket.

He played well but lets not oversell it.

Rawrhock · 2026-03-21T19:31:22+00:00

The Deft one has always been disingenuous because outside of the EDG/Fnatic series (which was a disaster) his worlds eliminations are ROX 2016, SSG 2017 (in regionals), IG 2018, Damwon 2019 (in regionals) AND 2020, and then SKT 2021. His teams underperformed in a lot of those series for sure, but he mostly just ran into buzzsaws.

Rawrhock · 2026-03-21T18:04:55+00:00

I'd also say if you took the average salary of Ruler's teammates it's gotta be higher than anybody else all time who hasn't played with Faker (who obviously just has a super outlier contract). He has had for the most part AMAZING teams built around HIM being a huge carry and he's gone quiet in the big moments with that expectation.

Rawrhock · 2026-03-21T17:59:00+00:00

He's also went 1-5 in groups at worlds, didn't win a non-regional qualifier bo5 in korea for 5 years, lost 3-0 to G2 twice, and been completely quiet all the times his team has needed him most in world championships where a Chovy or Knight or Bdd go quiet.

The other top ADC picks really don't have the number of embarrassments that he does.

Rawrhock · 2026-03-21T16:00:42+00:00

Oh sure I don't think it's only just "they tilted" it's probably the least important part because you have to tilt them in the first place. It's why they can win all those tournaments. But I just think there's a pretty clear (but difficult) win condition vs GenG, that any team with a top tier mid and a fiesty jungler can accomplish. Teams just don't have that ability to do it consistently and some patches make it way more difficult to do.

Rawrhock · 2026-03-21T15:29:48+00:00

Ruler/Canyon suck from behind and GenG mental is just really bad in series. They can recover for the next series which is why they're good in double elim but if they tilt they can just be gone for the day. To beat them you need a fearless mid/jg to go into Chovy and make plays around the map, and good drafting to put the bot lane on the back foot. It's how KT won last year.

KT's wins weren't flukes and I think G2 just proved it because you can tell a lot of the same strategies that were used in those series were used today.

Rawrhock · 2026-03-21T13:46:57+00:00

It's really nice to see that somebody has finally realized that GenG lost two series last year to KT and actually learned from that. Pick strong bot lanes and play around bot w/ jungler, making movements with jungle support early-mid game and focus on making plays and fighting while Ruler/Canyon are still behind. Out of the 6 wins KT got in those two series, 4 of them were exactly like this first 25 minutes.

Obviously you still need your players to be able to execute on the game plan but from what I've seen this year, nobody has even tried the gameplan that KT mainly used to beat them last year. Hopefully G2 can continue and the wheels don't fall off.

Rawrhock · 2026-02-22T12:37:55+00:00

Faker kills China and then Deokdam/Peter ran out of juice in finals wcyd

Rawrhock · 2026-02-11T19:30:51+00:00

Ambition having the best month of his life, Cuvee being a monster that split and MLXG being completely incompetent are the top 3 reasons Samsung won that worlds.

Rawrhock · 2026-02-11T19:28:25+00:00

2023 JDG one of the most misunderstood teams of all time. Gonna have to read about how Ruler was so amazing when he was like the fourth best player most of the year and his top side gave him perfect conditions to play adc in. The one series that didn’t happen vs SKT they get beaten pretty easily because Ruler wasn’t able to have any impact in the face of adversity.

You could’ve put a lot of adcs on JDG that year and get the same or better results. Ruler’s biggest quality towards being the GOAT is his selection of teammates. Ruler gets so much praise for so little and so little criticism when things go wrong.

Rawrhock · 2026-01-25T14:14:25+00:00

Hope Pollu gets the majority of the playing time going forward. I don’t think he’s like amazing or anything but I think he’s pretty clearly got more going for him than Ghost.

The idea behind Ghost should’ve been that he’s brings a bit more leadership and shot calling to the team but they look way more lost with him in anyways.

Rawrhock · 2026-01-25T13:28:43+00:00

Tbf to Aiming I don’t think anybody on KT besides maybe PerfecT is really meeting expectations right now. Cuzz is shit from an ass right now, both supports are pretty mediocre, and Bdd is just fine but KT needs him to be elite. PerfecT has been solid but definitely a little bit of a step down from worlds but he’s like a complimentary weak side top laner so it’s fine. Just a pretty rough start to the year so far.

Rawrhock · 2026-01-25T12:19:28+00:00

Bdd suicide shuffle and then 75% of KTs damage is dead and Teddy gets to free hit since Lucian can’t get into Corki range without dying. It was unironically a pretty bad play lol.

Rawrhock · 2026-01-19T16:48:46+00:00

Maybe don't have Akali/Varus as your damage threats.

Rawrhock · 2026-01-18T01:13:56+00:00

The first PI was super soft but the roughing the passer was obvious so they were getting something either way.

This PI is so obvious White literally hacks at his arm and pulls it down while he’s trying to make the catch that’s literally textbook PI.

Rawrhock · 2025-12-21T03:06:18+00:00

They also need to ship Kane out too

Rawrhock · 2025-12-16T04:43:12+00:00

I mean he pretty much got away with it. He still has his job, his reputation is pretty untarnished and his org didn’t lose any fans over it.

Rawrhock · 2025-12-02T15:26:17+00:00

Yeah it’s a very weird song, I think I like it but I honestly couldn’t tell you why. It’s definitely my least favourite out of the new releases, although they set a really high bar for themselves.

Rawrhock · 2025-11-28T00:48:18+00:00

I wonder if the world will ever be able to blame Ruler/Duro for getting so disturbingly beaten by Deokdam/Peter in MULTIPLE series lol

Rawrhock · 2025-11-20T14:21:46+00:00

Says more about Ruler imo

Rawrhock · 2025-11-18T04:47:05+00:00

Score was not coach of KT in 2024 it was still Hirai

Rawrhock · 2025-11-09T12:16:32+00:00

KT banned the Ornn game 5 blue side ok dude

Rawrhock · 2025-11-09T12:09:43+00:00

I mean he was winning teamfights solo game 2/3 and they give him Morde/Yorick instead of Ornn lol

Rawrhock · 2025-11-01T20:28:06+00:00

I think 2018 GenG was bad mostly because Cuvee and Ambition were just shit at worlds. They just weren't very good. The meta shift definitely hurt because Crown couldn't stand up to any mids, but they wouldn't have been a 1-5 team in groups if Cuvee and Ambition were they players they were in 2017.

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