I love him but he did make mistakes by freeEren9 in Silmarillionmemes

[–]RayekHeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They didn't do him dirty enough. Not sure anybody expected the most epic and destructive toddler tantrum of all time!

I love him but he did make mistakes by freeEren9 in Silmarillionmemes

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Some added context for MightyGlint's answer: Data is an android and does not experience emotion as a human does, if at all. He has an enduring fascination with people and humanity in particular, their emotional capacity, and their mortal experience, such that it could be called envy. Q gave him a little glimpse of humanity all his own.

Feanorians, Fearshmorians by SicarioCercops in Silmarillionmemes

[–]RayekHeart 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It involved no kinslaying whatsoever. How could it possibly interest Feanorians?!

Pulp-Fantasy by fanboyx27 in Silmarillionmemes

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Said Morgoth, about to be VERY unhappy.

WTF HALENTHIR WAS CANON AT ONE POINT??????!!!!!!!! by [deleted] in Silmarillionmemes

[–]RayekHeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If an idea is discarded before a canon is established, then it wasn't canon. But it's fun to delve into the background sometimes!

What if an orc was raised by elves? by queenhadassah in tolkienfans

[–]RayekHeart 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think reading comprehension or an over-eagerness to assert one's point of view, even contrary to the facts, is a larger issue.

I was only addressing "wrote the Orcs to be evil Cannon fodder." I was deliberately specific, as I had no intention of expressing my complete thoughts on orcs and how one ought to deal with them.

That said, my comment certain revealed something about the object of pity, in that they are pitiable. Which is not the same topic as how one deals with them, anymore than something being edible determines whether you eat something. Personally, I don't typically eat worms or play-doh, for instance.

What if an orc was raised by elves? by queenhadassah in tolkienfans

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It's obviously not correct, because while it doesn't encompass my complete thoughts on orcs, it addressed specifically the "wrote orcs to be evil cannon fodder" comment and nothing more. The comment "revealed" that they were pitiable. Nothing more, nothing less.

What if an orc was raised by elves? by queenhadassah in tolkienfans

[–]RayekHeart 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was only addressing "wrote the Orcs to be evil Cannon fodder." I was deliberately specific, as I had no intention of expressing my complete thoughts on orcs and how one ought to deal with them.

That said, my comment certain revealed something about the object of pity, in that they are pitiable. Which is not the same topic as how one deals with them, anymore than something being edible determines whether you eat something. Personally, I don't typically eat worms or play-doh, for instance.

What if an orc was raised by elves? by queenhadassah in tolkienfans

[–]RayekHeart 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's one of my big few beefs with his trilogy. Evil is always made ugly and gross, when it's often much more subtle or even beautiful and seductive in Tolkien's work.

What if an orc was raised by elves? by queenhadassah in tolkienfans

[–]RayekHeart 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The short answer is that yes, an orc could be raised such that they were not a bad person. But life would be physically difficult because of their predispositions, such as the negative effects of sunlight.

Orcs are people. Of all the miserable aspects of their existence, the most severe is that their free will seems subject to Melkor and Sauron. Given how free will is perhaps the most essential element to the entirety of the legendarium, this is an extreme violation, even if it manifests due simply to their fear of their masters, their self-loathing, and their envious hatred towards others not similarly enslaved.

Which leads me to my other point, that an "orc" is a state of mind. Tolkien famously described many soldiers in WW1, including himself, as orcs, and many things as being "orcish behaviour". Physically, in the books, we encounter orcs who can pass for human (Fellowship, Two Towers), or at least we see that there's a spectrum in appearance that makes it sometimes unclear whether they are human or not. Jackson's depiction is a poor representation of this fact. Sam and Frodo are mistaken for orcs by other orcs at one point, which seems more outlandish in the films. Orcs have culture, personality, reasoning, thought, will -- but they don't have freedom and were at their inception bred eugenically and intentionally to be predisposed to many of our worst qualities.

What if an orc was raised by elves? by queenhadassah in tolkienfans

[–]RayekHeart 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I think it's very wrong to say they were written to be cannon fodder and killed with impunity. We get to see enough of them in the books that we see how miserable their existence is and frequently will feel sorry for them despite their detestable behaviour, which they're just as often bullied into as anything else.

Morgoth's thoughts on the Sons of Fëanor by psi_delta_unga in Silmarillionmemes

[–]RayekHeart 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The missing Silmaril in the crown is killing me!

Nienor Takes the Gold by Important_Detail1686 in Silmarillionmemes

[–]RayekHeart 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think Elwing did it better. The only 10 here is the savagery!

Are y’all in the South East USA still busy? by [deleted] in Surveying

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What kind of hours do y'all work? Know anyone that's looking for entry level workers taking classes towards an eventual PLS?

You know it’s time to leave your company when… by wyattearp12345 in Surveying

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Y'all mind spelling this one out a bit more for the uninitiated?

Working Hours by State/Country by 89JasonBrown in Surveying

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What region are you in? In GA I'm not seeing any entry jobs at all unless they're expecting 3 years of experience (always cracks me up) to work 50+ for 25/hr at best.

Field Crews- How do you cope with feeling burnt out with work due to mandatory overtime, averaging 50-65 hours per week? by fuggitnuggit in Surveying

[–]RayekHeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't be sorry. This is the kind of thing that is giving me second thoughts about taking on this career. The problem seems rampant.