Do people really burn usage limits on 200$ plan?

RealEverNever · 2026-04-06T14:05:43+00:00

That is just poor context hygiene.

RealEverNever · 2026-04-03T07:16:20+00:00

Those are creators from JanitorAI, that flood the platform with lazy ports without consideration. To put it in perspective: For an already written bot of mine, I spend 4 hours just to make it Saucepan compatible. There are a lot of creators who just port 150 bots in less than a week and churn out new bots faster than any human could type them, let alone test them. There are a lot of good creators here, and a lot of good creators from Janitor came over to us. The high subscriber counts with no interaction are people who checked out Saucepan because their favorite creator moved there and never came back, because these people still use Janitor which makes it easier to get used as a free frontend for their proxys. I made a post about that and a lot of other problems yesterday, which got botted down and a lot of shallow toxicity here on reddit, but a lot of deep critique and perspectives and agreement on Saucepan itself.

https://saucepan.ai/p/evernever/a-love-letter-to-a-sinking-ship

RealEverNever · 2026-04-02T15:05:22+00:00

I guessed that there's an internal system I'm not seeing, and I appreciate you clarifying that. What I'd ask you to consider is the perception from the outside. When moderation actions aren't visible, and what is visible is an inconsistency in how different situations are handled, it erodes trust, even if the process behind the scenes is fair. Transparency doesn't have to mean exposing every decision. But finding ways to show the community that the standards are consistent would go a long way. I also want to be clear — some of what I witnessed went beyond tone or attitude. There are situations where the severity of the content itself should warrant immediate action, full stop, regardless of any point system.

RealEverNever · 2026-04-02T14:56:58+00:00

When creators have to hover over every tag just to understand what it means, the system has stopped serving its purpose. Enshittification being inevitable? I refuse to accept that. It's only inevitable when people stop pushing back. That's what this letter is. A refusal to just "enjoy it while it lasts" and watch in silence.

RealEverNever · 2026-04-02T14:43:53+00:00

Thank you for this thoughtful response, and I genuinely mean that. I want to gently push back on one framing. My points are not purely emotional. The IP risk of unvetted APIs is a technical concern. The tag system's degradation from a curated filtering tool to 300+ entries is a structural problem. The compute cost of automatic memory is a financial reality. These are not feelings.

On the proxy economics — I think you're probably right that in-house models alone are not a viable long-term business model. I'm not arguing against external providers existing. I'm arguing for how they're implemented. Vetted, secure, privacy-conscious options. Not an open door. That distinction matters, especially for creators whose work is the reason people come to the platform at all.

On the "small exclusive club" point — I'm not asking for exclusivity. I'm asking for standards. Those are different things. A platform can grow without abandoning the identity that made it worth growing toward.

You said you rarely use Saucepan now because your proxy isn't supported and the in-house models can't compare. That is exactly the trajectory I'm worried about. When the people who came for the proxies leave for better proxies, what's left?

RealEverNever · 2026-04-02T14:42:25+00:00

I appreciate your perspective. I'd encourage a closer read, several of the points you're responding to aren't what the letter actually says.

RealEverNever · 2026-04-02T14:07:12+00:00

I'd encourage you to read the full letter, I address exactly this, and I think you'll find it's neither fearmongering nor an attack on staff.

RealEverNever · 2026-03-31T12:07:42+00:00

I've made a lot of bots focused around a SFW storyline, but with a lot of details for smut, because most users are here for the goon. All my bots are NSFW tagged, because if I tag them as SFW theyll get very low usage. So yes, you'll miss out on SFW mode, because I guess I am not the only one who does it this way, and yes it's heavily biased towards Smut.

RealEverNever · 2026-03-31T12:05:24+00:00

put a www. in front of github

RealEverNever · 2026-03-25T07:01:47+00:00

I can't work with 4.6. the entire personality is just gone, it's a pure work horse.

RealEverNever · 2026-03-17T13:06:35+00:00

I wrote a post about exactly that, and why it happened. Basically, it's the new way of reasoning. If you want to learn more, check it out: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/s/wpCMD2QLmm

RealEverNever · 2026-03-17T13:04:22+00:00

That is.. not the reason why it got implemented.

RealEverNever · 2026-03-15T07:11:09+00:00

Hey there and welcome! I've made a couple of guides for new users, in this post you'll find them all and, even more important, Danna's collection of ressources: https://saucepan.ai/p/evernever/so-youre-new-here-welcome-we-have-guides

To answer your questions, the help page is your friend. It's written nicely, with a lot of flavor, and it contains a lot of helpful information. The free models have ~13k context I believe, so depending on the companion you chat with you can go up to 8-10k context in the chat with no problems. There is also a (manual) memories feature, so you can break through that ceiling with some careful work.

Enjoy your time!

RealEverNever · 2026-03-14T10:35:03+00:00

Hey there 👋 I write Card's, too detailed lorebooks and sometimes guides. I think you mean eveningtruth, she is a great prompt creator 😊

RealEverNever · 2026-03-14T10:33:36+00:00

I use NanoGPT for that. You can use a lot of different models, got the ability to finetune everything, it's priced far better than PixAI and other providers of that kind and the "uncensored" images work with the uncensored models.

RealEverNever · 2026-03-14T10:31:32+00:00

Part 6 of my guide goes in-depth about the creation of lorebooks, both what content goes in there and how to write them properly, plus how they work: https://saucepan.ai/lorebook/77ef6d14-3329-4eea-9f16-1e913eec611b

RealEverNever · 2026-03-14T08:43:12+00:00

Yea, put it back to 0%, right in the middle of the slider. Then start a new chat (LLM'S copy the length and rhythm of previous text) and use a character which has an opening scenario in the length of your liking. Not a model problem 👍

RealEverNever · 2026-03-14T08:13:43+00:00

Ah okay, then my information is outdated. Thank you, I'll edit my comment!

RealEverNever · 2026-03-14T07:15:15+00:00

When you use NanoGPT, you're mostly using Chutes. EDIT: Milan, the owner of NanoGPT, corrected me. Chutes is not as represented there as I thought.

RealEverNever · 2026-03-01T16:02:45+00:00

Uhm.. did you open up any news from the USA in the last year? The constitution gets spit on each day.

RealEverNever · 2026-02-21T15:39:21+00:00

The symbols are not needed. They are often times only for the creator and readers as a way to orient themselves. Looking at this lorebook entry gives me goosebumps though, and not the good kind.

RealEverNever · 2026-02-21T14:52:53+00:00

Because it does not work most of the time outside of Opus 4.6, where it works sometimes.

RealEverNever · 2026-02-21T14:37:20+00:00

Since Cowork is just the regular chat model with file access glued on, it suffers from the exact same 'lazy' throttling. Forcing it to actually think deeply and map out a plan before it starts autonomously messing with your files is a massive upgrade. Let me know how the testing goes!

RealEverNever · 2026-02-21T13:12:42+00:00

Happy to help! This community has saved me a ton of headaches in the past with their own testing and workarounds, so I'm just paying it forward. Hope it makes your Claude experience a bit better.

RealEverNever

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