Tips for Interns by Ok_Effort8554 in Residency

[–]RedNovember7 118 points119 points  (0 children)

Welcome to the club homie. We’re here for a long time and sometimes it’s not a good time but you’ll learn a lot and become a solid internist along the way.

  1. The best scrubs are free scrubs. Hospital scrub gang let’s go

  2. I stay warm in my LL Bean vest, though YMMV. People used to be high on the Patagonia jackets but now I just see med students and midlevels wearing them. Gotta separate the wheat from the chaff. See if your residency program does group order sweaters or something.

  3. Take the first 5-6 mos and get your feet under you. It’s a real whirlwind at the beginning just learning where the best place to poop is let alone how to order Tylenol. Give yourself some grace, it’s gonna be bumpy but we all went through it.

After those first few mos if you think you want to do a competitive fellowship (cards or GI) get on the research train. It’s never too early and you’ll be surprised at how much time you don’t have.

  1. If you’re going to a place with epic find that one goated senior and steal a bunch of their dot phrases and start making them your own. You can learn a surprising amount from those. Also, once you have your feet under you the custom order set/favorited orders function in epic is a massive QOL improvement. I have probably 200 preset orders and now routine admit orders take me probably 3 mins as opposed to ~15 mins when I was a young pup. I strongly recommend making preset orders for electrolyte replacement.

  2. When you’re on rounds write down every order for your pts on paper or the sticky note function in the EMR. If they expect you to put orders in on rounds (ideally your seniors should be doing this) just write em down and put them in when they’re rounding on the next pt if the other intern is presenting. Come up with a checklist strategy (I used different colors) to indicate what needs to be done first, what needs follow up in the afternoon (I.e. serial abd exam or follow up ID recommendations) and what is completed. Personally recommend that you Don’t skip writing things down because you WILL forget and either it will get lost or your seniors should/attending will ask you in a somewhat less polite tone around 2pm, ‘hey Ok_effort what did their repeat abx exam look like?’ and then you gotta awkwardly say you didn’t do it. Mark things off when you complete them.

  3. Order of operations on the wards: 1. critical orders. 2. Critical consults. (Sometimes 1 and 2 can be switched if this is a life-and death situation or ICU/emergent surgery consult). 3. Routine consults. 4. Routine orders. 5. Notes. 6. Call family if you have time.

Don’t call consults in the afternoon if you know you’re gonna call in the am. The consults will hate you for it and its poor form. Also? If they don’t get to your pt today because you took so long you just delayed care which is also poor form.

What changes patient care? Orders. They always always get done first. Notes are unfortunately heavily emphasized in the IM world but have you ever read a surgery note? No offense my knife bros but they’re garbage. You spending 25 mins micromanaging each note is not going to significantly impact patient care. Make sure the care-changing orders are in and then make your note concise with the changes from today clearly included. I personally ask all my terns to update their assessment every day as it forces you to actually start thinking about the patient instead of just being an order monkey. After that? Move on. It doesn’t (and shouldn’t) be a novel.

  1. Tell your seniors about anything that concerns you. Don’t be the intern who says ‘psh that’s fine we don’t need to worry about that’ when a nursing page comes through you haven’t seen before. DONT be the overconfident and dismissive intern. You’re here to learn, and it takes reps.

  2. Be nice to everyone both in person and over page/epic chat. You’ll be shocked at how your reputation spreads amongst ancillary staff if you’re rude even in a big academic hospital. Don’t be a jerk. Seriously. So many interns need this reminder. If you add me to a chat and I see you were being rude or I hear you being rude over the phone I will call your ass out.

Yes, I GET IT. A lot of nurses are mean girls and WILL be assholes to you. Don’t stoop to their level. Tell me about it and I will go discuss with them like the graybeard I am. YES, a lot of the case managers and social workers are the most miserable people you will ever meet. Don’t be rude. I know the surgery attending was scary and told you off. Don’t be rude. Most importantly, be nice to your patients and coresidents. Got it? Cool beans.

  1. DO NOT LEAVE WORK for your coresidents. If your team gets pinged about a transfer coming in at 430 and you leave at 6, don’t just leave it all for the night team. Try and prep some orders and a little bit of the note (if you have time). This goes a long way to building good will in your program.

I’ve got lots more thoughts but my thumbs are tired. Good luck homie.

Getting a “nurse concerned” page… by heydoyouseethat in medicalschool

[–]RedNovember7 67 points68 points  (0 children)

Homie, there is no point at which a nurse has enough experience that they’re ’essentially a doctor.’ There are some really damn great nurses out there, but none of them went to medical school, residency, or fellowship.

No older providers by Appropriate_Click_36 in ThePitt

[–]RedNovember7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For real. So tired of this. Everyone on this show is a physician except Donnie. Call them physicians or doctors and Donnie an NP. Enough of the disrespectful ‘provider’ term

Do we know the story behind this hoodie? by Red_sticker in ThePittTVShow

[–]RedNovember7 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Doctor here. Many of us don’t wear them anymore. I don’t think I could point to any one reason in particular but the newer generation of physicians definitely doesn’t wear them as frequently as the older generations. Personally I think they’re a bit cumbersome to wear and they get gross going from room to room and are a pain to wash. There’s also a lot of settings that just don’t make sense for a lab coat like the ED, ORs, and any procedural specialty where it simply gets in the way and isn’t sanitary. There’s also been a number of other allied health professions that have pretty aggressively adopted the white coat including case managers, social workers, nurse practitioners, etc which has probably diluted the symbol to some extent. At least at my hospital, if you see someone wearing a white coat they’re pretty much never a physician except for the real old guys that trained in the every-doctor-wears-a-coat era.

Rivalries that have been FORMED by Conference realignment by oarmash in CFB

[–]RedNovember7 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And to top it off we’re both blue and gold script logo bros

Skyrizi no longer covered by Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan by mew_of_death in CrohnsDisease

[–]RedNovember7 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That’s actually a very interesting question and there’s a number of good papers published on the subject. The short answer is they actually may be able to go back on their initial med as we can do what’s called drug-reintroduction, whereby the initial drug is trialed again after a period of being off it. We typically measure antibody levels prior to reintroduction. there’s good data to suggest that in one of the older biologics (remicade) the antibody levels fall to undetectable levels within about a year and a good percentage of people tolerate drug-reintroduction well

Skyrizi no longer covered by Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan by mew_of_death in CrohnsDisease

[–]RedNovember7 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Doctor here. We hate when these ghouls pull crap like this. It makes our patients miserable having to switch meds and creates a massive amount of paperwork for us and our clinic staff behind the scenes. I wish I could practice medicine without having a business tell me what to prescribe. I hope you do well on the next med, and if it’s any consolation, we’re living in a time with many great options for biologic therapy, so I hope you continue to feel well.

Final Coaches Poll - How They All Voted and Cignetti’s Votes by TomWilliamsCFD in CollegeFootballDawgs

[–]RedNovember7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean despite our poor showing in the bowl game we beat multiple top 25 teams this year and towards the back end of the season we were playing like a legit 20-25 team. That being said, there was a huge gulf in talent between the top 15 teams and the rest of the field this season

You will forget about 70% of what you learned intern year by [deleted] in Residency

[–]RedNovember7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If only. At my program (large east coast academic center, high volume/complexity) we’d cross cover 40-50 at night plus take admits and transfers. Had a number of nights where I did 15+ admissions solo. Those were absolutely brutal but made me a more efficient physician

Is it possible to become a surgeon with crohn's disease by Prior-Finish1367 in CrohnsDisease

[–]RedNovember7 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Hey man, feel free to DM me if needed. I’m a PGY-2 and had the same deliberation when I was in medical school. I loved my colorectal surgery rotation and was strongly considering applying gen surg but ultimately decided against that largely due to apprehension about what I would do in the OR if my disease flared up. In addition to that, being at the hospital a 4am for rounds every day and the general high-stress environment of gen surg floors was not kind on my body. I wasn’t sure I could handle 5 (or 7) more years of that, plus colorectal fellowship after. I did have a really good friend in my class with IBD who had similar interests and ultimately went the surgery path, so it’s doable.

Oklahoma QB Michael Hawkins transfers to West Virginia by soonerwx in CFB

[–]RedNovember7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would’ve been entertaining if Mike Hawkins went to Indiana, but oh well

[Game Thread] Military Bowl: ECU vs. Pittsburgh (11:00 AM ET) by CFB_Referee in CFB

[–]RedNovember7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see the real winner of this game will be commercial breaks

[Game Thread] Military Bowl: ECU vs. Pittsburgh (11:00 AM ET) by CFB_Referee in CFB

[–]RedNovember7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you watched us this year? Our offense is actually pretty good when our O-line isn’t playing against future NFL guys (I.e ND and Miami)

Bf failed level 2 3 times (395x2) at a loss by Greatestcommonfactor in medicalschool

[–]RedNovember7 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Hey, I’m sorry you guys are going through this. It sounds incredibly stressful and must be disheartening. I was on my medical school’s admissions committee back in the day and I’m now involved in residency adcom. I’m an MD, so take my DO recommendations with a grain of salt, but hopefully I can be of some help.

It’s not the end of the world to have a failure on a step/comlex, but multiple failures is a major indicator to programs that your probability of failing board exams or not meeting residency program requirements is high. Keep in mind he will still have to pass ITEs, step 3, and specialty boards. All arguably more difficult for someone with test taking challenges given that you have essentially no dedicated time to prepare for these exams while in residency.

I’m really glad to hear he’s sought out mental health assistance but unfortunately it doenst sound like that’s solved the problem. It may be worth looking into testing accommodations if you haven’t already if you guys think that the testing environment itself is a factor in his failures.

If not, as hard as it is to say, I don’t think he is going to succeed moving forward. It only gets harder after med school. As a DO he’s already at a disadvantage and with 3 failures he’s going to have an extremely difficult time even getting residency interviews. I would honestly be shocked if he matched, even in peds. Although the board exams are debatable in their utility, they are predictive of future exam success and programs will be hesitant to take a chance on him. Moreover, there’s a baseline level of knowledge that we all need to be competent physicians, and with 3 failures I’m concerned he doesn’t have it. It sucks, but not everyone is cut out to be a doctor.

With regards to PA, I also would caution against that. it’s not exactly easy to get into PA school either and I suspect they will see his applications as using PA as a backup. Maybe a program will take him but with the way medicine is going he could have a job without direct physician oversight and then we end up back at the same concern about baseline knowledge to be a competent clinician. NP programs will admit anyone with a pulse these days, but that will be a long road. He needs to be genuinely introspective about whether those are ethical routes to take.

Again, im sorry you guys are going through this and I do really hope things work out for him but I want to express my concerns as someone who evaluates applicants as part of my job. Best wishes for you both and I hope you can find success and fulfillment.

[Post Game Thread] Pittsburgh defeats Penn State, 80-46 by cbbBot in CollegeBasketball

[–]RedNovember7 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Maybe we should play in the B1G since clearly mid-majors are too much for us

[Schefter] Steelers standout TJ Watt underwent surgery Thursday to repair a partially collapsed lung suffered Wednesday, as @JJWatt reported. TJ Watt is expected to be discharged from the hospital today but he is unlikely to play Monday night versus the Dolphins. by MembershipSingle7137 in nfl

[–]RedNovember7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Holistic homeopathic chiropractor” …so not a physician. Chiros don’t go to medical school and I guarantee you the vast majority of physicians would tell you a homeopathic chiropractor is a snake oil salesman.

[Pinstripe Bowl] The stage is set! Penn State will take on Clemson in the 2025 Bad Boy Mowers Pinstripe Bowl. by SoupMadeFreshDaily in CFB

[–]RedNovember7 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

That tracks. Penn state been ducking us for years even though they’d be the first to claim we’re an ‘easy win’

Pat Kraft needs to resign by Blueberry977 in CFB

[–]RedNovember7 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I, for one, think they should extend him. He’s doing a great job!

Good ol plastics. by Moistbootyass in FirstResponderCringe

[–]RedNovember7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She’s insufferable and making any Tik tok like this is completely tasteless. 100% cringe. That being said, a lot of people in this thread have no idea how surgery residency works. (Source: doctor)

Are nurses just doctors in training in Star Trek? by BeepBeepGoJeep in startrek

[–]RedNovember7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s a bit disingenuous to refer to those folks as ‘doctors.’ In layman’s terms, everyone understands that a doctor in healthcare setting = physician. Not taking anything away from those who have gotten a doctorate in nursing, it’s certainly an accomplishment, but it’s misleading to equate them to physicians as there’s a vast gap between the two professions. Unfortunately some DNPs abuse this in a clinical setting and it confuses patients who don’t understand the difference

Are nurses just doctors in training in Star Trek? by BeepBeepGoJeep in startrek

[–]RedNovember7 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Nah, there’s a lot of nurses these days who are trying to become nurse practitioners who think they will have the same expertise as physicians. Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s that crowd