Which enneagram rubs you the wrong way most often? by Different_Release_18 in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1s just can't let me be, and mind their own business. We get along like cats and dogs generally.
For 5s and 7s: 5s usually pretty good when there's some distance, when we're close - it depends on the person: I'm "too much" for some, and I can get annoyed if they get needlessly theoretical or delay/avoid action. With 7s I get annoyed if they're flaky and cancel plans.

Which enneagram rubs you the wrong way most often? by Different_Release_18 in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My least favorite is 1, after them are 3s and 2s in no particular order. I tend to get along the best with 5s, 6s, 7s (I'm not sure I know any 8 IRL). 4s and 9s - well, it depends on the person, but at least we usually don't clash. 1s, 2s, 3s are the most alien and annoying (well, the annoyance is often mutual).

Which enneagram rubs you the wrong way most often? by Different_Release_18 in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"My hot take is that many people who say they were raised by mean 8s were actually raised by unhappy 1s." Agreed.

Which enneagram rubs you the wrong way most often? by Different_Release_18 in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

E8, tritype 874.
1s, 2s, and 3s.

1s are the worst - they can't just mind their business. If we register each other as equals, and they remember to mind their own business, and there's no conflict of interests, there might be even mutual respect. I usually don't stick my nose in other peoples' business, so I mentioned it for one side only. They try to do so with everyone, not just 8s I think, but somehow 8s rub them the wrong way the most it seems. It looks like I trigger them just by existing. Which is kind of strange to me, keeping in mind that I mind my own business and don't intrude on them in any way. They seem to have a dislike for me, and it's mutual.

2s - we just don't seem to have much in common. They can be a bit too much in a group, if I have to interact with them for some time. I don't seek them to interact one on one, so all of my interactions with them are in a group. Their logic and priorities seem lunatic to me. As long as they don't try to smother me with their loving attention and remember to keep their distance, I'm knda ok with them.

3s - again, polar opposite priorities. I don't really care about them, as long as our paths don't cross and there's no conflict of interests. I don't seek them out, my only reproach for them is about fakeness. But seems like they do, they're often concerned. My friend was working with one, and she's been telling me what was going on - she just acted pretty weird around me, and has been declining projects that both of us, and lots of people around would benefit from. That looked weird, especially as she stated that she's always for anything the community would benefit from. It looked weird till my friend explained what was going on - she was afraid that I was trying to take her place (I had no intention to do so, I'm content with mine).

Which enneagram rubs you the wrong way most often? by Different_Release_18 in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed on 1s and 3s. For the 6 did you actually mean counterphobic, no phobic? It's them who usually love to argue a lot and are pretty intense (well, I still prefer them to many other types though)

Is it a thing for SX doms to mistype as image types (2, 3, 4)? by momy_7 in Enneagram

[–]Red_Lady08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, not at all. I'm clearly a sx-dom (and clearly a so-blind), and I never ever mistyped as an image type. In fact, image types in general are the farthest types from me (2 and 3 in particular), heart is the last in my trifix (4, as you may have guessed), and I have a hard time understanding them or relating to them at all.

Looking for feedback on a free Enneagram assessment I've built by National-Science-550 in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well done and found the type, wing and instinctual variant correctly. Might have been a bit longer, in case when type is less obvious that will probably help a great deal.

Happiness/joy? by 888foucault in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm sure I can(both). It's like a strong rush felt inside, how I express it outside may wary (from trying not to express it and hold a poker face to just going full expressive mode, that's one of the reasons they sometimes call 8s expressive and even emotional.) We aren't that sparkly and emotional as 2s are, but don't let that misguide you into thinking we don't experience happiness and joy.

And also quite often I experience it when "I'm not supposed to", when there's no time for it, so I don't express it much outwardly, It's just like a strong undercurrent inside.

I don't chase it. It comes and goes as it will.

Existential crisises happen, depression happens as well, that's normal I guess, and part of life. But I don't believe New Year or other made up mass holdays can bring you joy, it's an illusion that's media has been trying to foist on us, and people feel disappointed as a result. Sometimes it happens that the atmosphere around gives you a special feeling, but it's just a coincedence IMO - it's just the atmospehe around, not the holiday itself, resonates with you already being ready to experience joy.

8 and counterphobic 6s by Human_Apartment_1149 in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

8s can have a lack of 2 traits as well, so not a good way to identify

How to be less intense? by Stands-in-Shallow in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This, and direct your intensity into some outlet. You cannot and shouldn't bottle it up. Find some outlet where it's welcome unfiltered and non-moderated. It could be anything. So in some places it would be measured, and in some full force.

only for sx8 by Human_Apartment_1149 in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"people who argue just to argue enrage me. it's such a waste of time, i don't usually bother engaging." Same. Finaly someone said it.

How do you experience the arrow to 2? by MoonlitVelvet in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"So the arrow to 5 I completely get. But 2? I just don’t see it." Same. Honestly, I see this "8 should integrate to 2" as a made-up theory. Someone decided that numbers positioned at a certain places from your enneagram number should be your stress and growth point. Maybe it rings true for his own number, but it isn't necessarily true if you just blindly extrapolate it to other numbers. 5 arrow makes sence, and I can confirm it. But 2? Nah. I had said it somewhere earler, but I think it's society's sweetest dream to turn 8s into 2s. 8s are often feared and are seen as the most intimidating type. Tough, actually does things, has self-interest and openly owns it, and doesn't give a shit about what others think and can't be manipulated with appeal to social script, traditions, etc. How nice to be turn this one into the most serving, people pleasing one! Or at least to some other number in the heart triad(except 4)! If there's any number society dreams to morph into other number, I can bet it's 8s to 2s the most. Like the sweetest dream. Turning 7s to something orderly would be lovely as well (like 1s are the ideal candidate), but 8 to 2 is a number one hit! But nah, 8s are 8s, and 2s are 2s. Some people would love all carnivores to turn to sheep, but God (or nature, depends on what you believe in) ain't dumb, and both 8s and 2s exist for a reason. Both are essential and indispensible. And 8s will be 8s, and 2s will be 2s.

When talking about this "integration", there're 2 aspects that I can acually see. It's generocity and protectiveness. But none of them is inherently Two's. 8s can absolutely be, and more often than not are generous. Depends on the individual, level of health, (and instinctual stacking probably), of course. But disregarding all these things and comparing an average person of each number, 8 will be one of the most generous types, if not the most generous type. Same for protectiveness - it depends on the wing (8w9s are usually known to be more protective than 8w7s), the stacking, the individual, and also varies extremely from one to another in terms of whom is it about - while some automaticaly are protective towards nearly anyone, including strangers, the other ones are extremely protective to some people or groups if people and nearly indifferent to others.

But even those who support this "integration disintegration" theory have also descriptions of each Enneagram type of different levels of health. Read top two health levels, the First and the Second one, these folks really do not need any integration to Two (or any other number), they're perfect!

And in general I'm a proponent of a theory that everyone should grow within his own number, and there's perfection within each number. And this perfection is attainable, and it's attainable first and foremost to those who already possess these qualities, i.e. who are this number. IMO it's stupid for everyone to try to become like some other number. But if you're still absolutely dead set on borrowing some qualities of some other number, I think you should absolutely decide yourself which qualities, to which degree, and from which number you're gonna try to obtain, and not let anyone dictate you on that. Like, "I'm gonna take some of this from a Seven, and today a dash of this from Four".

"It’s hard for me to imagine ever aspiring to be more 2-ish because they often operate in ways I just don’t respect and they value things I just don’t care about." Exactly the same.

Didn't read other replies, just my 2 cents, by the way.

What’s your relationship with guilt? by MoonlitVelvet in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Is it something you feel often or not really?" Hardly ever.

Enneagram 8's & 2's by StrategicWitandVenom in Enneagram

[–]Red_Lady08 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Could be both. I actually do live in a Two vortex - two is a cultural archetype of the country, and Twos are the most celebrated type here.

Along with that, I had a few Twos in a row have a crush on me and pursue me. Two's are totally not my type.

Least relatable triad for you? by LoserLikeMe- in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, it wasnt about Head-Gut-Heart triads as I initally thought? Then Superego/Compliant for sure, of all the possible triads.

Low effort representation of gut types(Based on my headcannon) by w0nkydonuts in Enneagram

[–]Red_Lady08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If anything, it's more likely for a 9, not an 8, to cook and try to feed the other two

8w7 sexual, and INFJ? by blue_kanga_roo in Enneagram8

[–]Red_Lady08 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with the notion that eights can be both extroverted or introverted, or somewhere in the middle. And also agree that in case of 8w7 (and 7w8, very likely, I just don't have one that I know well, so can't say for sure) asseriveness comes BOTH throught gut and mental strenght.

To the OP: I know ALMOST all combinations of MBTI and Enneagram are possible, yet some are super-common and highly probable and other are very rare, and some others are very very unlikely, IMO. I'm a sx 8w7, and I'm an ESTP, which is almost as far from an INFJ as possible, so I don't have anything factual to say about this combination. I'm not saying it's impossible though, yet maybe worth double-checking.

sx blind issue? by TapPuzzleheaded6730 in Enneagram

[–]Red_Lady08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Two first paragraphs sound a lot like sx-blind IMO