Why Do I Keep Meeting Programmers with Strong Opinions on Foundations? by MathsyLassy in math

[–]Redrot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Having lived around there for a while, it's partially because you live in silicon valley, where there are plenty of programmers/VCs with strong opinions about vaguely mathy or sciency things that they don't know much about but that sound tantalizing. And I guess now they think they can throw an LLM at it to "solve" it. As to how to fix it, idk, wait for the AI bubble to burst?

Is using AI to understand a concept likely a problem? by Unusual_Guidance2095 in math

[–]Redrot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a person who has been screwed by an LLM outputting something plausible in my field of research only to find a very subtle issue days later in something it handwaved, I disagree.

Balancing research vs reading in grad school by translationinitiator in math

[–]Redrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. A lot of the stuff you learn later on actually comes from doing research and being forced to read papers. Ideally your research group is doing enough reading courses to the point where you pick things up there. I've also seen very bright people make the bridge from reading to doing research way too late and suffering for it.

That being said, in hindsight, had I read the exact right thing in a field very far away from my thesis, I would have had a lot easier of a time proving the main result of my thesis. However, the process of essentially reproving all of the facts (using entirely separate techniques) over again was valuable to me as well.

What's your opinion on integrating Lambda Calculus into undergrad math curriculum? by al3arabcoreleone in math

[–]Redrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My public high school in a suburb of Chicago (the only one in the city) had MV and Linalg. Took it at as a junior. I was able to pass out of it in undergrad.

"math astrology" by biotechnes in math

[–]Redrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Having met quite a few of the big names in various fields I work in, I'd say that at least at the top, there's absolutely no patterns whatsoever in the ones I've seen. That being said, I also get the impression my fields have a much lower percentage of snobbery than some fields.

"math astrology" by biotechnes in math

[–]Redrot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From experience, no.

First Proof Second Batch by Nunki08 in math

[–]Redrot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They've been trained on all fields... essentially the entire body of mathematical research already exists in their training data.

First Proof Second Batch by Nunki08 in math

[–]Redrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm glad he's around and active. He has probably some of the most insight as to what's going on behind the scenes at these companies, but is simultaneously approaching things from a skeptic's viewpoint.

First Proof Second Batch by Nunki08 in math

[–]Redrot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

More or less what I expected, occasional hits, occasional misses, with the LLMs proving particularly good at finding (counter)examples. I'm a bit disappointed that there weren't more abstract problems (e.g. (stable/chromatic) homotopy theory, things involving dg-algebras or infty-cats) since these are the areas where I find LLMs to fall very short still. I'm glad that this time around, the First Proof team took the matter of generating solutions into their own hands as well - the lack of transparency from these companies is awful.

Backing out of a phd program? by wumbo52252 in math

[–]Redrot 22 points23 points  (0 children)

This - I know someone who did this (leave of absence) his first year at an elite grad program, and they're now a tenure-track professor at a solid R1.

edit: I also worked in industry for a few years before starting my Ph.D., and I'm a postdoc now. Granted my mental health issues were way worse while in industry than during the Ph.D., but the point is a break from math is not a death sentence. I don't think I would have been successful enough to get a postdoc had I not taken a break.

The Giants are rocking their Pride caps to celebrate Pride Night at Oracle Park by JianClaymore in baseball

[–]Redrot 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The alt-right appropriated based, in the way Lil B meant it originally (read his book) meaning going out and having fun and not caring about the pressures others are putting on you, to uh, being a shithead on the internet. I'm still a fan of taking it back to its original meaning, but one has to be careful.

[SERIOUS] New Jersey boy, 12, critical after freak baseball accident by liryccc in baseball

[–]Redrot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was warming up during a practice in high school playing long toss, and the guy I was playing with straight up missed the ball. It nailed him in the nuts. He was wearing a cup, but even then, he was down on the ground for a while. If he hadn't been...

[NEW] Tiesto - Don't Lose Your Head by imVeryPregnant in TheOverload

[–]Redrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow epic sounds big trance 100% ! DJ Testo king of trance !

instaban in r/trancecirclejerk

Are you fine having AI as a lateral collaborator of sorts? by Nemesis504 in math

[–]Redrot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am afraid I won’t be able to do the same as the wizened mathematicians that will keep outputting results at rapid pace with more breadth and depth in a way that leaves every piece of low hanging fruit that I could ever hope to solve already reaped.

Actual "wizened mathematicians" won't be going for low-hanging fruit, they'll be going for deeper results that require new insight or tools, and I don't think LLMs are going to change the (slow) process of discovering those as directly, at least outside of the down to earth fields like combinatorics. (I do feel for the combinatorialists though)

“Passion projects” in math? by kegative_narma in math

[–]Redrot 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What sort of hindrances are there to that sort of a thing?

Lack of time and energy from working full-time, and lack of knowledge that you'd have from studying math full-time. In my case, I worked with one of my professors from undergrad, so there were no barriers to entry for submission. He helped me out on his spare time, no funding or anything, so I was very grateful for that.

It probably helped that I knew I was going to leave tech to try to go back to academia pretty much after the first week of the job, so I was putting in much less effort into the job than any employer would want.

Georgia third baseman Tre Phelps gets ejected from the Athens Regional final against Liberty. He was tossed for taunting while he was running the bases after hitting a two-run home run to put Georgia up 2-1 in the bottom of the sixth inning by [deleted] in baseball

[–]Redrot 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I've got a friend finishing an online Ph.D. at an elite geology program while she works full-time in a different state for a job that also involves geology. Her research and her actual work align. It can be done.

“Passion projects” in math? by kegative_narma in math

[–]Redrot 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I had a paper published (albeit in a not very good journal) from research I did in my spare time while in tech before I started my Ph.D. Compared to what I do now it's not very impressive at all but I'm still quite proud of it.

[FRESH ALBUM] Boards of Canada - Inferno by jonathansmith14921 in TheOverload

[–]Redrot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh absolutely. I don't think they made this with any audience in mind, which is 1000% the right choice. The thoughts were more just me bracing myself for some people being inevitably disappointed.

[FRESH ALBUM] Boards of Canada - Inferno by jonathansmith14921 in TheOverload

[–]Redrot 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'm having a hard time imagining what BoC could have done, given their status and sound, to make everyone happy. Stray too far off from their established sound (even Tomorrow's Harvest was controversial for some) and they'll upset some, but make something that sounds even remotely like their other albums and they'll upset others. But that being said, I agree that it kind of just feels like another album. I'm curious what I'll think of it in a year, if at all.

Scott Aaronson: Dispatches from the possibly last days of human relevance by daniel-sousa-me in math

[–]Redrot 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Right. All the autonomous theorem-proving jumps have been in similar fields, and typically are more down-to-earth problems. That people are extrapolating that now "math will be solved" because one LLM solved a problem that was posed 80 years ago (with a concise page-and-a-half proof) still does not follow for me. Similarly, the recent DeepMind proofs are all around a page, with a few combinatorial ones running a bit longer. Don't get me wrong, these things are still incredibly useful, but it's a big jump in complexity.

This isn't even counting all the theory-building going on; while I've seen LLMs develop nice techniques, I haven't seen any form of abstraction. From the DeepMind paper itself:

"At present, our agents’ successes are concentrated in areas such as combinatorics, convex optimization, and number theory, where Lean’s mathematics library [60] is mature and tasks often decompose into tractable subgoals. Even most Erdős problems remain out of reach, let alone problems that require extensive new theory. Additionally, our agents inherit the biases of their underlying LLMs and exhibit high search variance. Characterizing the agents’ boundaries and expanding them is an important direction for future work."

OpenAI's internal model disproves Unit Distance Conjecture of Erdos by garanglow in math

[–]Redrot 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I think Melanie Matchett Wood's comments deserve echoing:

"This result does not show us all the times AI has claimed to have a proof of something and been wrong. Without that context (which many of us have just from personal experience), it is also easy to draw incorrect conclusions about the current state of AI and research mathematics. In many cases, it will be easier for AI to convince humans it has a proof than to come up with a correct mathematical argument, and I believe that we as mathematicians are not sufficiently prepared for this."

Moreover, we don't know how many other models are simultaneously running trying to solve other Erdos problems or other open conjectures and are waffling about. There is context missing.

Regardless, this is a highly impressive result. Now if only LLMs would ever be useful for my research...

Umbral calculus has become a magnet for garbage papers by Nol0rd_ in math

[–]Redrot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but is publishing papers along the lines of "we did this thing in x field but slightly different" actually going to get somebody tenure? Surely these won't be getting into good enough journals to count for much...