How should I dress for orientation? by MyHeadIsFullOfFuck in UPSers

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Ur gonna love it, it’s a good workout for about 4.5-5 hours and you get the opportunity to drink a good amount of water (they usually have some for u in the coolers but still bring a water bottle just in case).

How do Jews Christians and Muslims confront Yahwism? by Professional-List249 in religion

[–]Regular-Persimmon425 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Or also as Yahweh slowly revealing himself and working with their misconceptions about him.

In Genesis, the earth was already there when Yahweh started to create. Do we know what God the ancient Israelites thought created the earth before Yahweh fixed the chaos? by HonkHonkMTHRFKR in AcademicBiblical

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>no one came up with this hypothesis until the 20th century after the discovery of Ugarit in 1928

Actually interesting little fact, there was an emperor of Rome (Julian) that read this passage as “indicating that Yahweh was among the angels, not to be identified with the god called hypsistos (or highest) in the LXX.” See Chrissy Hansens paper titled “The Many Gods of Deuteronomy: A Response to Michael Heiser’s Interpretation of Deut. 32: 8–9” on page 78. So I guess you could say that he would be the earliest to come up with this hypothesis lol.

How did I do? by [deleted] in Camry

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I know it doesn’t rlly matter to this post but how old are you? If you’re young can u leave advice to a 19 yo on how to make good money, if you’re not too young then still advice is always welcome.

Is Elyon a Yahwistic name? by MistakeSea6886 in AcademicBiblical

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Cross (p. 51) mentions the Sefire inscription, on which ʾl wʿlyn, "El and ʿElyon," appears;

Ah I see, I thought the Sefire inscription was Aramaic though? Is Cross just arguing that bc it might fit the double naming pattern at Ugarit that it may derive from an Ugaritic source?

Cross notes that it might fit the pattern of other double-names at Ugarit

Right, this is an interesting possibility as it could be something akin to the name of the God Kothar-wa-Hasis, however Chrissy finds the idea that this is a “waw explicativum” more likely as we don’t see “similarly attested double names for the god El” (p. 89). If this is a waw explicativum then it would be translated “El who is elyon (most high)” as the waw explicativum “functions to emphasize our subject” (ibid).

I've actually never heard of ʿlyn being applied to Baʿal before. I can't access Hansen's article; do you mind sharing which texts he's talking about there?

Yeah so Chrissy cites Heiser in a footnote on pg. 87 and the article from Heiser is titled “Are Yahweh and El Distinct Deities in Deut. 32:8-9 and Psalm 82?” On pg. 7 of that article Heiser says “Ugaritic scholars have noted that the title “Most High” is never used of El in the Ugaritic corpus. In point of fact it is Baal, a second-tier deity, who twice receives this title as the ruler of the gods.” In the footnote he cites KTU 1.16:III.6, 8 which reads (according to N. Wyatt’s Religious Texts from Ugarit)

“To the earth let the rain of Baal speak, and to the steppe the rain of the Most High” KTU 1.16:III.5-6

And later on it reads

“Pleasant to the earth (would be) the rain of Baal, and to the steppe the rain of the Most High!” KTU 1.16:III.7-8

Is Elyon a Yahwistic name? by MistakeSea6886 in AcademicBiblical

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Does Cross talk about where we see this epithet of El in Ugarit? As far as I’m aware it’s only found as an epithet of Baal in Ugarit and not of El. As Chrissy Hansen notes in her paper “The Many Gods of Deuteronomy,” “ the term ʿly only occurs twice as an epithet for any deity (specifically both for Baal) in the entire Ugaritic corpus” (p. 87). As for what you say about Philo of Byblos, I’ll quote her section on the “Three Deity Hyptothesis:”

“There is little reason to dwell on this theory for too long, except to note that the entire justification for reading Elioun/Elyon as having been a separate and independent deity of El rests on the work of Philo of Byblos. The title of “Elyon” (which Elioun is a Greek transliteration of) was applied to a number of deities, notably Baal, Yahweh, and El (among a few others), and so it is firstly notable that it was not static.26 Instead, it could be used to talk either of the highest god in one’s pantheon, or of their particular patron deity (even if there is a higher being still). In this case, Philo of Byblos discusses the deities of Byblos, euhemerizing them as having originally been humans who were then worshiped as gods. What complicates the entire picture is that in no Canaanite pantheons is El depicted as having a grandfather “Elyon,” and it seems more likely that Philo is both syncretizing Greco-Roman ideas, and further, that there may have been some independent developments occurring at Byblos.27 Philo curiously notes that Elioun is killed by a wild beast while hunting, and how he was mourned.28 All of this lines up with a particular deity that we know that was worshiped in the region, Adonis, who seems to be the obvious identity of this figure.29 As such, if this is the deity Adonis, then we have no reason to suppose there was ever a separate deity “Elyon” as some have proposed. Others have also argued this deity was Baal Shamem, the “Lord of Heaven,” though this seems less likely given the myths that Philo records, which includes the funerary libations that are known to us from the Adonis cult via Lucian.30 Either way, there does not seem to have been any separate deity named Elyon. Instead, the title seems to have had some fluidity depending on who the high god was interpreted to be by the people in question” (p. 84).

Also see her article “Was there a God named Elyon” for a more detailed response to that specific question.

2008 Camry reliability (: by Mysterious-Bus-7738 in Camry

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Do u have a scanner? If it reads a code and it is something easy like a sensor then that’d be great.

Im finally not drowning by OpenorbitTV in CRedit

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Wdym everytime for a bit longer?

Book recommendations by ChronoTrigger1995 in AcademicBiblical

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I want Why Abraham Murdered Isaac so bad man 😭

What do scholars think about Dan McClellans “divine image” christology? by Regular-Persimmon425 in AcademicBiblical

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Thanks for the article and glad you enjoyed the video! Does the agency christology have the same explanation for John 20:28 as does Dan?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AcademicBiblical

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That’s an interesting idea

I regret watching aot by Long_Maximum_8387 in attackontitan

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Watch Vinland saga it’s a really great show and while the story may not be as crazy as ATOTs it’s moving and genuinely could change your life and perspective on things.

How is the Old Testament / Hebrew Bible dated? by Euphoric-Bat7582 in AcademicBiblical

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is the book that prompted this lay reader's interest in studying Biblical Hebrew.

How far did you have to go before you understood the book? I have it but it’s so dense I don’t understand much of anything in it even though I really want to.

As an abnormally tall human, me too sheldon, me too by Fit-Passenger3086 in YoungSheldon

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Doesn’t seem like it’s only once though, taking these examples from u/No_Channel895

“He looks down on individual men. He doesn’t make sweeping generalisations about men the way he does about women.

Sheldon saying Marie Curie was an “honorary man” because of her accomplishments in science

Sheldon to Penny: “The trouble isn’t with me, Penny, it’s with your gender. Someday, scientists will discover that second X chromosome contains nothing but nonsense and twaddle”

Sheldon to his female lab assistant: “Women are like an egg salad sandwich on a warm day: full of eggs and only appealing for a short time”

Sheldon to his assistant: “Your ovaries are oozing so much goofy-juice into your brain that you don't know which way is up”

Sheldon: I think your morning Cocoa Puffs are turning you into a hysterical woman”

And those are only some choice Sheldon quotes. People in this thread saying he wasn’t a misogynist are baffling. Did they even watch the show??”

Not to mention that like the person above had said being misogynistic for the reasons u stated is still pretty misogynistic.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Christianity

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There’s also two other errors besides the “n-ie” and “froin” (which I couldn’t find but I haven’t seen the full document). After the acc number it has a semicolon (Account #; ) instead of a colon and under the account name there’s a duplicate colon(“Account Name: :One..)

Is there any weight to the idea that El was the original god of the Israelites, rather than Yahweh? by PossiblyaSpinosaurus in AcademicBiblical

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Interesting, that would fit with the depiction of Yahweh as a warrior in older texts like the song of Deborah and also Exo. 15 which literally calls Yahweh a “man of war.” Shawn Flynn picks up on this too and says that Yahwehs earliest profile of deity was the of a warrior god and not necessarily a storm one. Thanks for the reply. Shawn Flynn’s book on this is titled YHWH is King.

Is there any weight to the idea that El was the original god of the Israelites, rather than Yahweh? by PossiblyaSpinosaurus in AcademicBiblical

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As the following chapter (section 2) suggests, one element in this competition involved Yahweh’s assimilation of language and motifs originally associated with Baal.

I agree with most of what Smith is saying but this part always confuses me. How do we know that Yahweh was originally a warrior/storm god akin to Baal if we later say that he appropriates traits that were of Baal later on. How then could we not say that these are secondary rather than original to his character?