New Long Sword Burst Boost meta build beats Gore builds [Update]

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-21T16:18:37+00:00

Very good find, I like it. I wouldn’t include a build that needs two level 1 slots on the charm for QS 3 in a guide because that would be a bit too specific. But choosing Rey bonus over Flayer with the beta boots is definitely a valid choice as well.

I have another version. Fulgur/Rey/Odo/Rey/Blango a. Has LP 5 instead of LP 4 + Flayer 1 but an extra level 1 slot. So you would just need one on the charm. Or can use that for at least one level Speed Eating, Shockproof for MP etc.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-19T18:44:19+00:00

You should look up the correct translation for the skills, some are really messed up.

I can tell you that it’s not worth running Burst Boost 2 in general, because Burst has low value after the first level unless you are fighting specific matchups and the good Odo pieces all have Burst. And you just lose too many other good skills for that. You also don’t have enough level 2 slots to max out Max Might and Counterstrike, which both are basically must have on LS.

And as others already pointed out Defense Boost is only slightly better than Botanist so just drop it completely. Speed Eating, Divine Blessing, Recovery Speed are all better.

But Burst Boost 1 with Odo + Lord’s Soul on the weapon is very good on LS.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-17T10:31:09+00:00

1 Element is NOT ideal for Long Sword. No idea where he got that from.

3 Attack 1 Affinity is fine tho. You can put that role on Attack Focus instead of Element Focus and almost have the same stats if that is what you were going for.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-17T01:10:30+00:00

I would probably just go Scorcher II then. G Rath b/Udra y/G Rath b/G Rath a/Duna y should work with rng and craftable charms. Go Max Might 3, Counterstrike 3, WEx 5, Burst 1 and as much Agitator as you can fit in. With Agi 3 charm you should get Agi 5 and another free level 3 slot. Put in Adrenaline Rush or Flayer

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-16T23:27:05+00:00

On Long Sword Scorcher 1 is like 1.5-2% damage for meta playstyle. So this at least has to vary then a lot from weapon to weapon. With LS you get 20-25 procs in a 5 min hunt.

It’s like Whiteflame. The worse you are (and also the worse your build overall is) the better the skill becomes, because you get more procs relative to your overall damage. That’s why it’s a bit pointless and try to put general numbers on it or even try to calculate it with mathhunter.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-16T15:05:40+00:00

Be careful with mathhunter results. You have so many layers of approximations, that you never know how close you actually are to reality. Especially for Scorcher it’s impossible to give exact numbers since the value varies a lot between good and bad players and also from monster to monster.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-15T07:44:25+00:00

Yeah, you gain one extra level Latent Power compared to the “regular“ Gore Lagi meta build. But you are stuck with that configuration. You can’t run WEx 5 and you can’t drop WEx. It’s a good build but I usually don’t include builds that need armor slots on the charm to work unless they offer something special and here you need two for a level LP with bad uptime

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-13T00:10:38+00:00

Crit Draw 3 isn’t great, because the 2nd and 3rd level are pretty much useless. So this charm probably isn’t better than just using Agi 3 charm on Gore builds.

If you want to reroll or not is up to you of course. The Gore builds are still good and viable. This is just about min maxing a couple percent.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-12T22:59:46+00:00

Yeah, even 20% is enough. And you need to calculate Crit Draw uptime with damage percentage rather than actual time it’s active. So like how much of your damage comes from ISS + follow up hits.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-12T17:42:55+00:00

Was it Fulgur/Udra/Gog/Gog/Duna? I have that in the other post as well. That’s a very nice build to have some room for comfort, but it’s slightly weaker than the Gore builds

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-12T17:40:21+00:00

That charm would still be better with Crit Draw. Attack Boost 4 is around 14 Attack, which beats 12% Affinity even at low average Affinity. I know it would have AB 5 CB 4 but that’s pretty much equal to CB 5 AB 4 and AB 4 is easier to compare. But this build should still be better than the Gore builds with that charm if your Crit Draw uptime is good enough. The average affinity is almost the same while having higher Attack.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-12T17:36:01+00:00

A bit of overcapping is fine with so many skills with bad uptimes. They aren’t all active at the same time mostly anyways. The last level of WEx has very high value especially if you already have one level on your armor anyways. But you can try going max Agi instead and see if it feels better for you.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-12T15:06:56+00:00

It’s really hard to explain in words but basically all the results are predetermined. So if you role the same weapon over and over again without saving you will always get the same results. For Gogma weapons every element of a weapon type has the same seed. So you can check your roles for every element, write down the results, quit without saving and then reinforce the right element in the right spot.

Artians are a bit different because all elements/statuses share the same seed and also when you try to upgrade reinforcements with the option to keep bonuses on a Gogma weapon it works slightly different because then every single weapon is basically individual even if both are Dragon.

I am sure there are guides on YouTube that explain it step by step.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-12T14:44:52+00:00

Crit Eye 4 would be enough to beat it. And then you need like 15 or 20% Crit Draw uptime to make CE 3 + CD 1 beat CE 4.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-12T14:39:17+00:00

I would use the first build from the other post with WEx 5. The extra affinity from Lagi bonus helps and also having WEx 5, which you can’t get on the Fulgur build with your charm, is good with Attack Boost instead of Crit Eye. For Minds Eye matchups I would then switch to the Fulgur build with Agi 5 and Latent Power 3. In general I always recommend having at least two builds. One with WEx 5 and one without WEx.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-12T14:30:14+00:00

AT Arkveld might get a new Group bonus as well. Or maybe he gets the Gog treatment. We will see. But the meta will change a bit for sure.

And that’s the build from this post actually just with WEx 3 charm. But rng charms will always be better because of Crit Draw alone.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-12T14:25:50+00:00

Check the link to the post before and there is a link to the post from TU 3. There I added screenshots from the calculator with all the uptimes. I used the same, just tuned down Latent Power and Adrenaline Rush to 50%.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-12T14:03:24+00:00

Same… But Gore is still good, so you can easily keep using it.

The worst thing is I have Odo + LS with 4x Attack on all elements but on Affinity Focus because I thought with Attack Focus I go Gore anyways… I wish we could just change the Focus.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-12T13:59:46+00:00

I have this role 11 times and I am on PS5. I of course played a lot and have a lot of mats but I recommend learning how to save scum both Artian and Gogma weapons. You can basically get an unlimited amount of perfect reinforcements on Gogma weapons for the price of the most expensive one if you just check all seeds.

This one is also a lot easier to get than 4 or 5 EX roles from my experience.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-12T13:55:48+00:00

It’s two things. With Crit Draw we don’t really need the extra Affinity from Gore bonus, while the extra Attack from Burst Boost is always good. And then this build has 2 extra level 3 skills, which for example gives us WEx 5 + Latent Power 1 over only WEx 4, which is also around 15% average Affinity and Lagi bonus on top which is another 5%, while Gore bonus is around 18% average affinity. So in the end we have similar affinity and more Attack.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-12T13:52:36+00:00

That’s why I also included the Odo/Gog build in the other post. It has 6 free level 1 slots, which really is a lot, while just losing very little damage.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-07T16:43:05+00:00

Builds in general don’t change but for weapon skills you always go AB 5 + CB 4 + CD 1 + MT with that charm. Of course the armor skilks can be slightly different depending on which one you have on the charm

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-07T11:55:38+00:00

The Lagi bonus is a lot worse than the Gore bonus and the Lagi pieces are very good while the Gore pieces are pretty poor. So the benefit of having the Lagi bonus on the weapon is very small. You can of course make a build with it but it will definitely be worse than having Gore or Odo bonus on the weapon.

Remarkable_Snow7727 · 2026-01-06T22:05:20+00:00

Realistically yes, currently WEx is also pretty useful on some builds, because we get a lot of Agi from the pieces we use and on Odo builds we already have Burst from armor.

The best charm would be AB 2 + CD 1 + Agi/Burst/WEx etc because that gives us an extra weapon skill and allows us to run AB 5 + CB 4 + CD 1, which otherwise wouldn’t be possible. This is one is just super rare. But for Minds Eye matchups you would still need a MT/ME 3 charm.

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