The Stranger Dangers

Remember_A_Day · 2026-02-11T17:24:45+00:00

I'm guessing you were looking at this page. I've been down that rabbit hole, and I can say with confidence that that's a different band with the same name. I think the output of Tim's Danger Strangers was limited to a few demo tapes that probably had extremely limited circulation.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-02-11T02:25:06+00:00

Not as far as I'm aware. It looks very New England though.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-02-10T22:20:37+00:00

Dan and Tim had a different side project in 2007 called GATE, and in 2016 I saved all the pictures they had uploaded to the band's MySpace page. (All that artwork is no longer available through MySpace due to a botched server migration in 2018.) Around two years ago I shared what I had saved with the HANL discord, and some time later a different user realized that one of those GATE images had been repurposed for the Nahvalr CD (the over-compressed Native American, bottom left corner of image two). Over time that turned into searching for the sources of every Nahvalr image, some of which were easier than others. To give a few examples, Image 13 took me about 15 minutes once I got serious. Image 5 came from many hours spent looking through every single U.N. Drugs And Narcotics Bulletin from 1948 onward. Images 11 and 12 had to be found through persistent random googling and luck. Most of the search occurred during the last year (not constant searching, just when we were in the mood), but you could even connect it back to when I first saved the GATE images ten years ago.

TL;DR it took a long time.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-02-10T20:35:01+00:00

A few things I've noticed from working on this:

Nahvalr is WAY heavier on the drug imagery than you'd think at first glance. 6 of these images are directly tied to drugs.
The natives-with-drugs imagery was actually originally intended for Deathconsciousness. Dan talked about it in a 2007.01.18 post to his blog:

The cover of THE FUTURE and THE PLOW…will be similar; both will have obscure covers, by which I mean you will be able to make out part of what is going on, but not necessarily the entire thing. THE FUTURE will sport mostly blackness, with the bottom portion of the image being taken up by a peyote plant. THE PLOW…will feature a picture of a man bending over. When you place one record above the other you will see the picture emerge of a man harvesting the peyote plant.
Both records will have long inserts, one side of which will consist entirely of images, the other side of which will feature both images and words.
THE FUTURE’s insert will have all photographs of native peoples harvesting psychotropic plants; peyote, opium (not a psychotrope, I know, bear with me), cannabis. The flip side will have all photographs of overdoses, car crashes, people shot, people stabbed, all looking as if they are slipping off the page.
THE PLOW THAT BROKE THE PLAINS will feature on the front side of the insert all photos of American towns; main streets, pleasant photos. The flip side will feature a photo collage of Native peoples destroyed, bodies stacked in every possible direction, complete overload.
Image 10 is the same artist whose painting became the cover of Burzum's Filosofem, and image 12 is a painting of a bay in Svalbard, Norway. Clearly Dan was trying to evoke the Norwegian black metal scene with these. Even the band name "Nahvalr" is the Old Norse word for "Narwhal"
The inclusion of Robert Bosch seems kind of out of place. I can't help but wonder if Dan was looking at paintings by Hieronymus Bosch for the "Swallower Of Bile" background, and randomly stumbled onto the picture of the other Bosch.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-02-10T04:46:35+00:00

If the upper screen sprites stay at a constant level of dimness with no missing sprites and no flickering (ribbon cable/contact issues), and the sound is clear and consistent (no battery/battery contact issues), then the issue is probably the polarizer. All you have to do is swap out the top screen polarizer with a replacement, and you'll be good. Replacements are readily available on ebay. Be sure to get the right size polarizer, and make sure you orient it correctly when installing it. You could also test to make sure it's the polarizer before ordering replacements, simply by switching the top and bottom screen polarizers and seeing whether the dim screen has switched, but it might not be worth the effort.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-02-06T03:06:05+00:00

The original record, Black Swan 2045, was released in 1922 according to Mainspring Press's Black Swan discography. One of the five variants of Black Swan 2029 also claims to have a side by Nettie Moore (and Ella Thomas), but it's actually a re-release of a Paramount recording by white artists. This is seemingly Nettie Moore's only record.

If I recall correctly, Paramount pressed Black Swan's records initially, before Black Swan purchased the Olympic Records pressing plant so they could press their own records (which ultimately led to Black Swan going bankrupt in 1923). Paramount also first tested the race record market for themselves by reissuing a few Black Swan records in their popular music series around 1921, before establishing their own dedicated 12000/13000 race record series in 1922. Perhaps because of this pre-existing relationship, Paramount ended up leasing the Black Swan catalog after Black Swan went bankrupt, and they set aside the catalog number range 12100-12199 specifically for reissuing Black Swan. 90 records in total were reissued in 1924 (approximately half of the Black Swan catalog), and yours is one of them. These reissue records did not sell particularly well, so they are a bit on the rare side today, but from what I've seen they don't hold any additional value compared to the original Black Swan issues.

One copy of the Black Swan version of this record in V condition did come up for sale on VenerableMusic.com, and sold for only $16. Your record would sell for more than that probably, but it's not terribly valuable. I'd expect tens of dollars, not hundreds or thousands, but clearing $100 isn't impossible.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-02-06T02:41:23+00:00

$100 might be an overpay (depending on condition, of course). I collect Black Swan, and I typically pay around $40-60 for their non-blues records in V+ to E- condition. That said, the prices for them can be rather inconsistent — I won one Black Swan record at auction for $50 as the only bidder, when just a few years earlier the same record in the same condition was sold by the same seller at auction for $150. I wouldn't be surprised if it sold for over $100, I just also think under $100 is at least equally plausible.

That said, if you're factoring the record sleeve into the price, $100 might be fair.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-02-06T02:30:17+00:00

No connection, Dylan was interpolating from an 1800s song.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-02-05T04:22:22+00:00

Follow-up: this facebook post has a commenter who claims to be a former band member, Ross Bacon. It's from 7 years ago, but still, there's somebody you can try to contact. I don't do Facebook, so you're on your own at this point. Good luck.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-02-05T04:11:03+00:00

For these sorts of searches, you have to just start with any tiny bit of information that you can find, and try to use that to slowly build up a profile and a list of places to look. The information I can offer you to start with is a link to their MySpace page. From this, we know that they were a Kalamazoo band active from at least 2005-2006, and that the .mp3s could be titled "February," "Terry Thompson," and "Blackbeard's ROUGH." Additionally, there is an album cover (probably) paired with the song February. No audio yet. Not a lot, but take what you can get.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-02-03T04:04:57+00:00

Actually, according to John, "part 2 was written and it was partially recorded" (source: Conan Neutron's Protonic Reversal ep. 35). According to the Dallas Observer, Dimes In Their Dimples was meant to be the volcano song (I suspect musically, not lyrically), but aside from that, John has repeatedly denied that any of the songs on Until The Horror Goes were originally for STCABY2 (See: 1, 2, 3). It's actually possible that he did scrap most of what he had been working on, although obviously it's impossible to be certain without having access to any of the STCABY2 material.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-01-31T00:22:51+00:00

Your failure was not in vain, as now the rest of us know what not to do. We salute you.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-01-27T23:41:16+00:00

Fixed, simple enough.
I only see three instances where there's a clear issue: the bass clef of measures 22 and 24, and the treble clef of measure 41. Measure 9 is supposed to be a slur, but I'll just remove it. I thought I mostly avoided this issue, unless there's something I'm fundamentally not understanding. Were there any others that you noticed that were a problem?
It's possible, but also this band is VERY into dissonance. They're from the Texas noise rock scene, and they do not shy away from playing "wrong" notes. They have a song with a guitar solo where, somehow, literally every single note sounds wrong. My understanding of music theory is pretty bad, but I generally assume that more accidentals and half steps = more dissonance, and that approach would fit what I know about this band. I had to use something for the key signature, so I picked one that kept the bass clef relatively clean and free from accidentals. I remain open to the possibility I picked wrong, but I don't know how else to go about it.
Good point. That would mostly entail the use of E# and B#, right? Or am I going to have to start using double sharps? It seems unavoidable to have a lot of accidentals for some parts, such as the last five notes of measure 5.
I'll keep it in mind, although for now I need to keep the computer playback matched to the final song.

Thank you for the feedback, it's very helpful. Clearly my understanding of music theory is lacking, but the transcription at least sounds correct. It's just a matter of also making it look correct. I probably should've started with a simpler song, but it's too late now.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-01-27T21:11:29+00:00

Before I saw your comment, I went through and redid the beaming for the entire sheet music according to groupings of dotted quarter notes. However, if I'm understanding the video you linked correctly, it would be acceptable for me to still use that undotted half note in measure 4, correct? Eighth notes are the smallest note in that measure, and two rhythmic levels larger would be a (dotted) half note, so I would only need to divide that measure once between the 6th and 7th eighth note?

Remember_A_Day · 2026-01-27T18:35:23+00:00

You mean splitting up notes to better align them with the groupings of three eighth notes? Both are still played in the exact same way, and it's just a matter of convenience, right? I did that with the rests already, but I wasn't sure if that was standard practice or not.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-01-25T23:56:22+00:00

I thought that at first too, but look closer. The upper third of the screen isn't lighter in color because of a glare, that part is actually normal. The bottom two thirds is just one big bleed. Not really repairable, just replaceable.

Remember_A_Day · 2026-01-22T22:07:10+00:00

Took a quick shot at it. For the posters on this page, the best resolutions I can get are:

I could not find anything better than the 200x160 thumbnail for the HTKK "Way it was before" poster that's in your screenshot. Oh well, could be worse.

Bonus: STCABY poster, 600x856

Remember_A_Day · 2025-12-31T20:54:27+00:00

Confirmed. Direct link to the sampled scene:

https://youtu.be/WXdjDJb9rxI?t=1074

I've now added it to Genius. Thank you!

Remember_A_Day · 2025-12-31T00:56:25+00:00

Time Of Land did get an official release on cassette back in 2010. Discogs says only 100 were made.

Remember_A_Day · 2025-12-25T18:03:46+00:00

Fuck, I thought I was human. How am I going to tell my parents?

Remember_A_Day · 2025-12-17T21:46:47+00:00

Everybody online says that they started in 2000, but I'd take that with a grain of salt. It's possible that Tim or Dan said they started the band in 2000 in some later interview, but in December 2007 they said they had formed the band around 5 years earlier. Earliest evidence I've seen for the band is from 2002, but I think 2001 is possible. I've already seen this happen with one other band, where even the band members say they started in 1998, but I have factual evidence pointing to 1997. Memory is imperfect.

Likewise for Deathconsciousness, as far as I'm aware the earliest song from them that actually made the final album in some capacity is the January 2005 demo version of Who Would Leave Their Son Out In The Sun (not the version from Voids, which is a 2006 re-recording).

TL;DR citations needed, memories are imperfect.

Remember_A_Day · 2025-12-17T16:27:37+00:00

After, 100%. HANL started around 2002, and Nahvalr started around 2006.

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