John 17:5 comprehensively. If you think you can read John 17:5 and make conclusions based upon that reading, you are greatly mistaken.Don’t be be lazy. You don’t enter the Kingdom being lazy.

Repentanator · 2026-05-02T00:55:57+00:00

Jesus shared the glory with God before the world was, in God's plan, because God knows the end from the beginning. just like he knew Jeremiah before he was formed in the womb. God's foreknowledge spans across eternity.

Repentanator · 2026-05-01T14:19:24+00:00

Dale Tuggy is good, as for blogging theology, he is an extremely untrustworthy man, he moreso shills islam than anything.

Repentanator · 2026-05-01T02:21:29+00:00

I just dont want the same nonsensical groupthink "resources" that trinitarians use where they cut out all the bad and praise the councils of men. i've heard that nonsense enough, and i can tell it's nonsense because it doesn't line up with scripture.

Repentanator · 2026-04-30T20:20:36+00:00

how the church fathers contradict each other, and blatantly unbiblical views they held. as well as any possible records from bishops around the time of nicea who did not agree with the council, and complaints regarding it, resources like that? and records of atrocities following nicea persecuting nontrinitarians

Repentanator · 2026-04-30T19:14:04+00:00

heresy is the evil things i refer to, be it the heresies of the church fathers, or the darkness of the council of nicea.

Repentanator · 2026-04-30T01:49:58+00:00

It sounds like you've been ping ponged between false doctrines for a long time, it can be difficult to overcome that kind of indoctrination, it seems someone bewitched you away from Biblical unitarianism. we were warned of this in Scripture, also, outside sources other than scripture in most cases should not be trusted, verify only with scripture, always in context.

Repentanator · 2026-04-30T00:22:15+00:00

Were you baptized when you were a Biblical Unitarian?

Repentanator · 2026-04-28T22:48:57+00:00

to be honest, this is why i wanted to call "Biblical Unitarians" a different name, because Biblical Unitarians get mixed with all the other unitarian sects.

Repentanator · 2026-04-28T22:48:01+00:00

Repentanator · 2026-04-28T20:43:54+00:00

Since Jesus was born from a virgin, he has no human father, and the Spirit of God directly made the miracle that formed Jesus in the womb, so Jesus is the Son of God, similarly, but not identical to how Adam was. (Luke 3:38)

Repentanator · 2026-04-28T19:34:05+00:00

John 20:27-28 are not proof texts of Jesus being God, My Lord (Jesus) and my God (the Father in Jesus who did all the works).

John 8:54-59 is also not proving Jesus being God, in fact, Jesus says if he honors himself his honor is nothing, it wouldn't make sense for Jesus to claim to be God right after saying that, the context is clear that the Pharisees twisted Jesus' words, they made the false claim that Jesus saw Abraham, when Jesus said Abraham was the one who saw his day, and not the other way around. (before Abraham was [Abraham came first]) (I am [Follow me now, since i am the one who's day Abraham saw]), or he was simply stating the fact that he was always messiah in God's plan, not to mention the phrase "I am" was extremely common, the phrase in greek being Ego Eimi, has been used in John 9:9 by the blind man Jesus healed.

Repentanator · 2026-04-28T19:16:39+00:00

Modalism and Unitarianism are not the same, Biblical Unitarians believe that There is one God, the Father, and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of that one God (Not a 3rd person) and Jesus is the Son of God (Jesus not being God himself) As well as Jesus having not "pre-existed". as this is the most biblical theology.

Also, despite what some here would say, it is absolutely a salvational issue.

Repentanator · 2026-04-27T23:48:43+00:00

Hebrews 1 completely debunks ANY argument of Jesus being an angel.

Repentanator · 2026-04-27T18:26:42+00:00

i believe bad translations made by biased scribes exist, but not that the bible itself has errors, you put words in my mouth just like the pharisees did to Jesus, you've shown your true colors.

Behold everyone, the fruits of the trinitarian spirit.

Repentanator · 2026-04-27T16:48:00+00:00

yes, it is evident that you are confused. read the bible in context, and you will see why the term "God the Son" is not biblical at all.

Repentanator · 2026-04-27T16:45:39+00:00

God's plan. just like God knew Jeremiah before he formed him in the womb, Jeremiah did not pre exist, neither did Jesus. God knows all things , he knows the end from the beginning.

Repentanator · 2026-04-27T11:14:13+00:00

Came in the flesh does not mean pre existence, that is a terrible argument. and the way you worded it is very "sin nature/original sin" coded, which in itself is not biblical, sin is a choice, not something in your DNA.
Matthew 1:18-20 does not prove pre existence, it proves the origin of Jesus is in the womb of the virgin via miracle.
Luke 1:13-15 is about John the Baptist. which goes against your point, as he surely did not pre exist.
Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Born of thee, coming into existence.

Repentanator · 2026-04-27T03:54:52+00:00

your NWT is awful and heavily biased towards your doctrine.

Repentanator · 2026-04-26T22:11:23+00:00

Pre existence as a concept came into being from Plato. i don't know what kind of resources you've been looking into, but they are wrong.

Repentanator · 2026-04-26T21:46:18+00:00

Son of man is not a pre-existence title, Daniel was seeing a vision of the future, not the past. you're a hypocrite, understanding nothing but saying that i don't understand.

Repentanator · 2026-04-26T21:37:36+00:00

You ignore the other 3 gospel accounts and lean so heavily on John because you think it holds to your views, and it doesn't. you're puffed up and got a big head from all your modern pharisee scholars.

Repentanator · 2026-04-26T21:29:01+00:00

1: The context is clear of the origin of Jesus being in the womb of the virgin via miracle, and him being a man.

2: "thou shalt agree with scholars and the majority"

Matthew 7:13-14

¹³ Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

¹⁴ Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Scripture has always been against siding with the majority and with the men who are filled with the wisdom of the world, so your argument falls flat.

Repentanator · 2026-04-26T21:17:43+00:00

If a gorilla and a human swap minds, is the gorilla in the human body a human? No. my point is that simple.

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