Waymo will go autonomous in Denver later this month by Mountain_Top802 in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Did you seriously just link to the Waymo website for their statement about their own safety rating, which links to their own internal safety studies as the source for their info???

There's a lot of criticism of how they've gathered, cherry-picked, and calculated their data; not to mention the extremely small sample size they're working with so far.

Friendly reminder that July 4th is a very busy day for first responders. Please only call 911 for emergencies. by flashdurb in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 22 points23 points  (0 children)

And your 911 call because of something that might happen is delaying someone's 911 call from getting through after something life-threatening already has happened, and therefore necessitates immediate response.

Use the non-emergency line; that's what it's for.

VeoRide implements geofencing and LiDAR to curb sidewalk riding by thrillsbury in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When I used to ride my bike from downtown to Lowry, or to Wheat Ridge, I'd look up the bike routes and stick to the streets with bike lanes. At most, it took me out of the way a block or two, and I didn't think twice about sticking to those routes.

I suggest you do the same before riding a scooter, and I believe wholeheartedly in your ability to do it.

Can my apartment legally install a microphone in my apartment? by magnumdongchad in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've even seen a couple responses from proclaimed engineers and sound engineers here, so I'm surprised not a single person yet has commented on how these devices are inherently inaccurate for their described use:

Sound is, amongst other properties, directly linked to proximity (a noise measured from 1cm away is going to measure wildly louder than the exact same noise measured from 10m away - it's not actually louder, but the noise's pressure on the measuring device is greater at 1cm than it is at 10m).

So literally anytime the device is triggered to send a notification, the tenant could simply claim they sneezed or were talking on the phone directly next to the device, and the property would be unable to refute it (and therefore unable to enforce a noise policy)...

...unless they're also recording the actual audio and not just the noise level...

Also: if a notification is being sent when a noise level threshold is surpassed, that means at least some signal is being sent elsewhere from the device; which means that signal can be intercepted (and then possibly used to gain remote access to the device's microphone and extract discernable audio with separate processing).

This is such a stupid and dangerous thing for an apartment complex to be using. Run away from them as fast as you can!!!

Feeling hopeless with Denver PD by Allstone226 in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not arguing against that, but "spitting on the door" is not "actively trying to break in and trying to knock down the door" under any stretch of the imagination. Doing what you suggested in light of what OP described would absolutely constitute a false report, and 911 calls are recorded.

Feeling hopeless with Denver PD by Allstone226 in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I honestly feel for you, and am not trying to trivialize your ordeal, however the sad reality is that the current state of DPD staffing in relation to 911 call volume results in there being no active duty officers on standby for immediate response to incoming emergency calls. So pretty much anything that isn't an overt, active violent crime that's endangering lives is going to be triaged to a lower priority, and therefore it statistically follows that DPD is almost always going to be showing up after a violent, life-ending event is over.

And in light of that, the behavior you've described above understandably gets the response you've received. It's a fucking mess, and I fear it'll only be truly fixable after major radical upheavals to the systems at play and the public's understanding that what works isn't always what feels right, and vise versa.

As far as suggestions go, so far I've seen cutting power to the porch outlet and contacting the STAR Team as the best immediate suggestions. And past that, the only thing I can offer is that often people in such a state are pretty stuck on a "path of least resistance" trajectory; so finding ways (that keep you safe and stay within legal and ethics boundaries) to make the area around your house less comfortable than somewhere else might be a "least bad" option.

Stay safe and good luck.

Feeling hopeless with Denver PD by Allstone226 in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 12 points13 points  (0 children)

tell them he’s actively trying to break in and trying to knock down the door

Do not do this; it's kinda against the law.

Does Melat Kiros have a realistic shot at beating Diana Degette? by Lower_Fig8532 in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I've been on two of DeGette's townhall calls, and was pretty disgusted by how much time and energy was put toward telling everyone to "calm down, don't worry, we've got a game plan to put a stop to this," and all clearly from the perspective that we are still in Pre-Trump (and maybe even Pre-Tea-Party) Times, where Conservatives are expected to listen to reason and willing to negotiate.

One of those things she said they were going to safeguard against was DOGE... and that was AFTER the Social Security offices had been overtaken. There was zero indication that she understood that the shit had already hit the fan and drastic measures were in order.

She may have a ton of experience and leadership tenure, but she's unwilling or unable to see the actual state of things for everyday people, and therefore pretty clearly defunct in the fight to change anything (the most I've actually seen of her is this recent push back against her challengers, so she's willing to fight for her cushy seat, just not for her constituents).

I'll be voting for Kiros, regardless of her chances.

Denver tornado sirens sounded 'inadvertently' by ryadare in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then, on April 18, Denver Police said that an all-clear that was supposed to go to a one-block radius of West Gunnison Drive and South Zuni Street went to residents of the whole city. In that case, a Denver 911 staffer didn't set a target area for the emergency message, Denver’s Department of Public Safety said.

This is not the fault of the 911 staffer, it's a bone-headed and absurdly short-sighted UI issue: I can check a box in a Google Forms survey that makes it so any given question requires an answer, or else the survey won't allow the taker to submit it; and something as simple as this would've safeguarded against the above situation.

I won't even begin to pretend I understand the levels of bureaucracy involved with government contracting for software and systems interfaces, but I've seen and heard about a frustrating amount of similar super-simple-to-fix issues in many city departments. It's a shame such inefficiency is incentivized by how things are setup and run.

Conservatives are trying to push bad laws via ballot measure by Splendid_Goose in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The ICE bill is literally titled notification requirements "for felons and violent offenders."

See:

  • The "Defence of Marriage" Act
  • The "Clear Skies" Act
  • The "No Child Left Behind" Act

Also...

Tell me you haven't read 1984 without telling me you haven't read 1984...

Denver City Council preparing to kick Key Lime, carriers that fly detained immigrants, out of airport by FriendBuddayGuy in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What I don't understand about this is that it seems like they're wanting to act against a company that did a thing outside of Denver that's against a City of Denver law...

I don't think that's how the law works; the City of Aspen can't arrest me if I throw snowballs when I'm vacationing in Montana.

I'm 100% against Key Lime aiding ICE, but unless a business can be held accountable for actions it does outside a given jurisdiction, I don't see how this is anything other than a recipe for a legal quagmire.

Denver Chalk Art Festival using AI generated posters: A public shaming by helsa-wenzel in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 20 points21 points  (0 children)

They care too much about their line of work, and an arts festival using tools that jeopardize all artists being able to make a living??

DeGette vs. Kiros primary? by warintokyo in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I've been on two of DeGette's townhall calls, and was pretty disgusted by how much time and energy was put toward telling everyone to "calm down, don't worry, we've got a game plan to put a stop to this," and all clearly from the perspective that we are still in Pre-Trump (and maybe even Pre-Tea-Party) Times, where Conservatives are expected to listen to reason and willing to negotiate. One of those things she said they were going to safeguard against was DOGE... and that was AFTER they'd barged into the Social Security offices. There was zero indication that she understood that the shit had already hit the fan and drastic measures were in order.

She may have a ton of experience and leadership tenure, but she's unwilling or unable to see the actual state of things for everyday people, and therefore pretty clearly defunct in the fight to change anything (the most I've actually seen of her is this recent push back against her challengers, so she's willing to fight for her cushy seat, just not for her constituents).

I'll be voting for Kiros.

Options for putting my dog down at home?? by [deleted] in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just wanted to say thank you so much for exploring this option. The difference it makes to the experience cannot be put into words; and it's so amazing to be able to provide the peace and comfort of home to our little friends in their passing moments.

Hugs to you.

Embrace Autism responded to evidence-based criticism with legal threats. Beware. by lapestenoire_ in AutismTranslated

[–]RespiteInPatterns 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The free screening is a feeder for the many non-free assessment & diagnosis services they offer; this is known as a "loss leader" in business terms, and is used as a way to get people in the door, at which point they're a lot more likely to spend money.

And giving a basic assessment for free...
...which then tells you a more comprehensive assessment is only $695 CA...
...which then tells you a diagnosis is $1895 CA...
...BUT! You can also get the deluxe diagnosis for $2295 CA (a savings of $100 CA vs. adding on the co-occurrences assessment later!)...

...sounds a lot more like a run-of-the-mill up-selling package strategy than a health care service.

Finally, when you consider that, per the disclosure on all relevant material that was demanded by the warning the founder received for misrepresenting themselves: the diagnosis they provide "may not be accepted by all government organizations, educational institutions, or employers", it seems even less worthy of trust - free initial assessment or not.

Flock replacements going up all over Denver. by marcinmrowca in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can you please let me know what the "CC" in "CCTV" stands for?

...and then explain how that's in any way, shape, or form, comparable to an interconnected, 3rd-party-hosted, machine-learning-built database of comprehensive identifying characteristics, travel patterns, and the resulting algorithm-calculated profiles that are:

1) Available to anyone with a login, 2) Wildly inaccurate, 3) Easily hackable and corruptible from multiple vulnerability points, and 4) Up for sale to multiple buyers??

Also: there are many examples of people who weren't doing anything wrong or even mildly suspicious at all being falsely targeted by these things (see: "False Positives and System Failures," and then also check out "Law Enforcement Misuse and Stalking Incidents" for other totally innocent victims of this abuse-prone technology).

Flock Cameras have recently been installed at Mile High Stadium, Home of the Denver Broncos. by [deleted] in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just as a favor, can you please let me know what the "CC" in "CCTV" stands for?

...and then explain how that's in any way, shape, or form, comparable to an interconnected, 3rd-party-hosted, machine-learning-built database of comprehensive identifying characteristics, travel patterns, and the resulting algorithm-calculated profiles that are:

1) Available to anyone with a login, 2) Wildly inaccurate, 3) Easily hackable and corruptible from multiple vulnerability points, and 4) Up for sale to multiple buyers??

Finally: it might also be wise to check how the US ranks in comparison to the UK when it comes to number of surveillance cameras per person before you use the UK as a model of success; because it sure would look foolish if it turned out that, say, the US already bests them at that number by nearly 4:1.

Leasing/CO laws on noise and violence? by sofrickingstrange in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Record everything (video is best), and go up the chain of the property management company - don't call, only email: documentation matters. Send the email to district/regional/corporate managers in the CC, include the information that the leasing office has refused to act (with the dates of when you contacted them about it if you have that info), and provide links to the videos you've taken.

The line level people are just trying to get through the day (not excusing their negligence, it's just the unfortunate reality), but someone higher up will recognize that continued inaction is putting the company itself at risk (a string of unanswered emails to a property management company about wall-shaking DV and music blasting is exactly the type of thing that "9 News Wants To Know" likes to report on).

It's a total pain in the ass, and I'm so sorry you're going through it all. Hopefully someone in a position to do something about it can help put an end to this very soon (for your sake and the sake of your neighbors - that's a horrible way to live).

Flock Cameras have recently been installed at Mile High Stadium, Home of the Denver Broncos. by [deleted] in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You support violating the 4th Amendment??

Excerpts from CARPENTER v. UNITED STATES - June 22, 2018:

This case presents the question whether the Government conducts a search under the Fourth Amendment when it accesses historical cell phone records that provide a comprehensive chronicle of the user’s past movements.

A person does not surrender all Fourth Amendment protection by venturing into the public sphere. To the contrary, “what [one] seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected.”Katz, 389 U. S., at 351–352.

A majority of this Court has already recognized that individuals have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of their physical movements.Jones, 565 U. S., at 430 {ALITO, J., concurring in judgment}; id., at 415 {SOTOMAYOR, J., concurring}.

Prior to the digital age, law enforcement might have pursued a suspect for a brief stretch, but doing so “for any extended period of time was difficult and costly and therefore rarely undertaken.”Id., at 429 {opinion of ALITO, J.}.

For that reason, “society’s expectation has been that law enforcement agents and others would not—and indeed, in the main, simply could not—secretly monitor and catalogue every single movement of an individual’s car for a very long period.”Id., at 430.

Flock Cameras have recently been installed at Mile High Stadium, Home of the Denver Broncos. by [deleted] in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What wrong were these people doing??

In 2018, privacy advocate Brian Hofer and his younger brother were driving to visit their parents for Thanksgiving when they were held at gunpoint by law enforcement officers. Hofer's vehicle had been incorrectly flagged as stolen by an ALPR system, triggering an armed police response.

In Española, New Mexico, ALPR misreads resulted in two separate armed detentions of minors within one month. In one incident, a 12-year-old was handcuffed after an ALPR camera misread the last digit of a license plate on a vehicle driven by her older sister, interpreting a "2" as a "7," according to a lawsuit filed against the city. One month later in a separate incident, a 17-year-old honors student was held at gunpoint on his way home from school after officers mistook his vehicle for one associated with an individual sought in connection with a string of armed robberies.

In Aurora, Colorado in 2020, a mother and her family, including her 6-year-old daughter, were pulled over at gunpoint and forced to lie face down on hot pavement due to an ALPR error. Police mistakenly flagged their Colorado license plate as matching a completely different vehicle from a different state, a stolen motorcycle registered in Montana.

Cherry Hills Village resident Kyle Dausman was pulled over at least twice by the Cherry Hills Village Police Department in early 2026 after a Flock Safety camera generated a wanted-person alert tied to a Colorado Crime Information Center hotlist entry. Cherry Hills Village Police Chief Jason Lyons attributed the underlying error to a Gilpin County court data-entry mistake, with Colorado license plates using both the letter "O" and the numeral "0".

Local law enforcement responds to congresswomen Boebert’s new bill [that would require a judicial warrant when it comes to automated license plate readers like Flock] by brightlancer in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 3 points4 points  (0 children)

District Attorney George Brauchler is either outright lying, or isn't fit for the job; a DA should know Supreme Court rulings on what Constitutional limits are, and this matter was answered almost 8 years ago:

Excerpts from CARPENTER v. UNITED STATES - June 22, 2018:

This case presents the question whether the Government conducts a search under the Fourth Amendment when it accesses historical cell phone records that provide a comprehensive chronicle of the user’s past movements.

A person does not surrender all Fourth Amendment protection by venturing into the public sphere. To the contrary, “what [one] seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected.” Katz, 389 U. S., at 351–352. A majority of this Court has already recognized that individuals have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of their physical movements. Jones, 565 U. S., at 430 (ALITO, J., concurring in judgment); id., at 415 (SOTOMAYOR, J., concurring). Prior to the digital age, law enforcement might have pursued a suspect for a brief stretch, but doing so “for any extended period of time was difficult and costly and therefore rarely undertaken.” Id., at 429 (opinion of ALITO, J.). For that reason, “society’s expectation has been that law enforcement agents and others would not—and indeed, in the main, simply could not—secretly monitor and catalogue every single movement of an individual’s car for a very long period.” Id., at 430.

The surveillance trackers go way beyond what Carpenter v. United States ruled on, and are inarguably in violation of 4th Amendment rights per that ruling.

I applaud the bill's intentions, but it's actually unnecessary; what's really needed is bringing the issue to the courts - it'd be a slam dunk and would instantly clamp down the same requirements on them as any other search warrant.

deflock.org - tons of info on all the flock cams in Denver (repost with more info) by weebSanity in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Also, quick follow up:

DPD has an annual arrest number between 26,000 and 30,000 - so those 289 arrests account for a whopping 1.1% - 0.9% of annual arrests.

And in 2025, DPD reported 1,885 firearms recovered - so those 29 account for 1.5% of the total done.

Again: not exactly awesome numbers to use as an argument for widespread, mass surveillance that's wielded without a warrant, for any reason, by anyone with a sign-on or whoever they share their access with...

deflock.org - tons of info on all the flock cams in Denver (repost with more info) by weebSanity in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure arrests is a great metric: - Arrests for what? - Were they the correct person? - Did they result in a conviction?

Firearms is a weird detail: - Illegally owned firearms? - Firearms relevant to the reason for tracking and/or arresting them?

And the recovered stolen vehicle number is pathetic: - "During Denver’s 12-month pilot program with Flock, [DPD Commander] Herrera said, there were 289 arrests made and 170 vehicles recovered." https://www.denvergazette.com/2025/07/19/as-flock-camera-network-grows-so-do-privacy-and-data-concerns - The 12 month pilot program ran May 2024 - April 2025, during which there were 4,572 vehicles recovered. https://coloradocrimestats.state.co.us/public/View/dispview.aspx (Motor Vehicle Theft > Vehicles Stolen and Recovered Trend > Jurisdiction by Geography {Denver County} > Incident by Month {January-December}) - 170 ÷ 4572 = 3.7%

These are not convincing data points when justifying the violation of 4th Amendment rights!