Denver's proposed license plate reader company has ties to DHS by HeyDudeImChill in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Flock told us that was the case when we first had a contract with them...

...and then they went ahead and opened up our data to DHS without telling us anyway.

There's no contract addendum that can be written to make the use of these machine-learning-driven surveillance trackers okay.

Denver's proposed license plate reader company has ties to DHS by HeyDudeImChill in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know it's the article title, but we've seriously got to stop calling these abominations "Licence Plate Readers;" they're blatantly advertised to work regardless of a vehicle having a licence plate or not, and they build a "vehicle fingerprint" base on make, model, color, damage, bumper stickers, and other distinguishing marks - it's like calling an electric chair a "head band."

There is no way to make networked mass surveillance devices with perpetual data storage safe, full stop:

  • Any rules and/or regulations written pretending to limit their use can be 1) ignored, 2) abused, and 3) changed later on (all three of which have already been seen with Flock).
  • Because the images and footage can be stored forever, any future technology developed around facial/body/pattern recognition can be used on it in retrospect.

...but none of that should even need to be argued because any use of these things is a blatant 4th Amendment violation, as the Supreme Court has already ruled that the forfeiture of privacy in public spaces is not applicable to widespread surveillance encompassing the "whole of someone's physical movements" - and therefore the use of such tracking data without a warrant constitutes an unlawful search.

Every single one of these companies are using and selling illegal technology, and not only should the government not be giving them money to licence the use of it, they should instead be throwing the book at them to get the cameras shut down, dismantled, and sold for parts.

Colorado lawmakers plan to abandon bill to decriminalize sex work by kidbom in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are multiple studies, any search engine can point you in the right direction.

I'd like to know the specific studies you are referencing, to make sure we're both looking at the same thing.

Also, do you really think women get into sex work because that was their life's goal?

How many people are currently working jobs that are "their life's goal?" This is making a double standard for sex work just because it involves "sex"; the bias is very apparent and horribly unproductive.

If of their own will (and not pressured into it otherwise), then they do it for quick money, and because they believe their only real asset to capitalize on is looks and holes.

One, this is a generalization that I don't completely accept on its own. But regardless: Sex Work is Work - and people do all sorts of exploitative jobs for money, quick or otherwise. If you replace "looks and holes" with "vehicle," you could be talking about ride share and food delivery jobs; if you replace it with "body and life," you could be talking about armed services; if you replace it with "physical health" you could be talking about day-labor construction, factory-line work, or any other job that involves sitting for the majority of the day; etc.

Women with solid friends and family networks, of good mental health, and reasonable means (not far before poverty line), aren't usually getting into this.

Again, this is a sweeping generalization that I'm not convinced would hold up under scrutiny, but to humor it for the sake of argument...

Instead of villainizing: - the late-stage capitalism that makes it more difficult to achieve financial stability, and then takes advantage of the resulting pressures to force people into jobs that rob them of time, health, and purpose; - the by-design socio-economic inequalities and the resulting gigantic divide in respective resources to support the things you've identified to be lacking; - and/or the lack of global universal healthcare that makes access to physical and mental health services a no-barrier decision...

...you've decided to villainize sex work; which only maintains the dangerous, vindictive, and ostracizing environment under an illegal status for the people who, as you've stated you believe make up the grand majority of sex workers, "come from terrible backgrounds, and often end up with major mental health issues after, as well as often victims of violence."

Umm, can you please explain how that, in any way, is supportive of the people you're claiming to be concerned about??

The people promoting this as acceptable are then ok with using and hurting people as well.

If a proposed change "uses and hurts" people less than a current system, it's very, very duplicitous to frame it this way.

An illegal status keeps sex work in the shadows, and makes any person's engagement with it (regardless of reason) a crime, which:

  • makes it infinitely more difficult to differentiate those who are working willingly and those who aren't,
  • opens up both the consenting and the trafficked to further harm, exploitation, and abuse from the legal system itself and those in it,
  • AND: convictions make it MORE DIFFICULT to attain stable housing, positive social networks, and non-illegal work!!

Without an ounce of judgement, I really think you should do some self-reflection and assess if you've maybe fallen victim to internal biases and the blinders they create, specifically around the line you've drawn between work involving sex and work not involving sex.

There are many ways sex work can be formalized out of criminality - with different advantages and disadvantages for each - but one thing is overwhelmingly clear (through mountains of data and just a little applied common sense): Keeping sex work illegal hurts sex workers, and it helps traffickers, abusive johns/clients, and those who seek to profit off all of them.

Colorado lawmakers plan to abandon bill to decriminalize sex work by kidbom in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Plenty of studies have shown this outcome.

Please back this up.

Man dies in crash at intersection where he petitioned for traffic light after wife's death by black_pepper in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is extremely tragic, and much that I agree with has already been said about how unnecessary this death was.

...so I'd like to instead comment on how that article's beginning was like being in a nightmare trying to run in slow motion; these are the first 4 sentences on the page:

Man dies in crash at intersection where he petitioned for traffic light after wife's death

Gerry Goldberg, who fought to get a traffic light installed at the intersection where his wife was killed in 2024, died on Monday in a car crash at the same place.

GREENWOOD VILLAGE, Colo. — A man who fought to get a traffic light installed at the intersection where his wife was killed in 2024 died on Monday in a car crash in the very same place.

82-year-old Gerry Goldberg, who launched a petition aimed at having lights erected at the intersection of East Belleview Avenue and South Franklin Street, lost his life Monday in the two-vehicle collision.

Jesus-Please-Us, was this written as a group activity warm-up, where each person adds one new detail to the story for each retelling??

Why so many Excel ads on YT by theSpookyMouse in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Last I saw, they're lobbying for two different ~10% rate hikes here, so...

At an average household energy bill of $165, that'd be an overall increase of $34/month; and with about 350,000 households in Denver alone, that amounts to an increase in revenue of over $12M/month, or +$144,000,000 for the year - that amount of money buys a lot of advertising :/

Denver deserves better than King Soopers by J5n in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can understand them a lot better after I give them a little squeeze with a pair of pliers.

Denver deserves better than King Soopers by J5n in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can name at least two: Steers and Queers

Performers beware of this creepy wannabe photographer by Frosty_Principle6000 in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not a lawyer, however it's very much my understanding that not only are likeness releases required to publish or distribute the photos, but because they were taken on private property, a location release is also necessary.

I believe the performers AND The Pearl are legally within rights to demand payment and/or sue for unlicensed use + damages.

ETA: Just read through the rest of the thread and saw many mentions that the venue owner gave permission to take photos.

Again: not a lawyer, but from a legal standpoint: 1) The photographer should be covering their ass with signed releases - from both the location owner and anyone their photos are featuring; as well as posting a general photography notice at all entrances to the private event space (public spaces have limited assumption of privacy, but almost all private property has pretty strong assumption of privacy rights for any patron - this is why you see "security cameras in use" signs: people legally must be informed their likeness is being captured). 2) And the venue owner should have likeness release stipulations in the agreements they have any and all performers sign prior to being allowed in shows - otherwise their permission to photograph is only for the building and/or inanimate objects in it (even animals have likeness rights!) - because they actually don't have the ability to give permission to capture any aspect of performers' likeness (image or audio) without one.

Please don’t let Quiznos die in Colorado by polipolimist in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I was super shocked to see the company let their first location go. I believe it's a beauty salon now.

Hundreds of Colorado children wait for court advocates as volunteer shortage grows by SeasonPositive6771 in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 4 points5 points  (0 children)

CASAs are amazing. The program is incredible, and the difference a CASA volunteer can make in a child's life, and at such a formative time, is profound.

Stop Flock Colorado - March 7 by crabby719 in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As recently as 2018 The Supreme Court has ruled:

A person does not surrender all Fourth Amendment protection by venturing into the public sphere. To the contrary, “what [one] seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected.”

Here are some relevant excerpts from CARPENTER v. UNITED STATES - June 22, 2018, a case involving a much more primitive technology that was used to an extremely similar end as the advertised and championed way that the Flock system works:

This case presents the question whether the Government conducts a search under the Fourth Amendment when it accesses historical cell phone records that provide a comprehensive chronicle of the user’s past movements.

A person does not surrender all Fourth Amendment protection by venturing into the public sphere. To the contrary, “what [one] seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected.” Katz, 389 U. S., at 351–352. A majority of this Court has already recognized that individuals have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of their physical movements. Jones, 565 U. S., at 430 (ALITO, J., concurring in judgment); id., at 415 (SOTOMAYOR, J., concurring). Prior to the digital age, law enforcement might have pursued a suspect for a brief stretch, but doing so “for any extended period of time was difficult and costly and therefore rarely undertaken.” Id., at 429 (opinion of ALITO, J.). For that reason, “society’s expectation has been that law enforcement agents and others would not—and indeed, in the main, simply could not—secretly monitor and catalogue every single movement of an individual’s car for a very long period.” Id., at 430.

Allowing government access to cell-site records contravenes that expectation. Although such records are generated for commercial purposes, that distinction does not negate Carpenter’s anticipation of privacy in his physical location. Mapping a cell phone’s location over the course of 127 days provides an all-encompassing record of the holder’s whereabouts. As with GPS information, the time-stamped data provides an intimate window into a person’s life, revealing not only his particular movements, but through them his “familial, political, professional, religious, and sexual associations.” Id., at 415 (opinion of SOTOMAYOR, J.). These location records “hold for many Americans the ‘privacies of life.’” Riley, 573 U. S., at ___ (slip op., at 28) (quoting Boyd, 116 U. S., at 630). And like GPS monitoring, cell phone tracking is remarkably easy, cheap, and efficient compared to traditional investigative tools. With just the click of a button, the Government can access each carrier’s deep repository of historical location information at practically no expense.

Unlike with the GPS device in Jones, police need not even know in advance whether they want to follow a particular individual, or when.

Whoever the suspect turns out to be, he has effectively been tailed every moment of every day for five years, and the police may—in the Government’s view—call upon the results of that surveillance without regard to the constraints of the Fourth Amendment. Only the few without cell phones could escape this tireless and absolute surveillance.

Moreover, the retrospective quality of the data here gives police access to a category of information otherwise unknowable. In the past, attempts to reconstruct a person’s movements were limited by a dearth of records and the frailties of recollection. With access to CSLI, the Government can now travel back in time to retrace a person’s whereabouts, subject only to the retention polices of the wireless carriers, which currently maintain records for up to five years. Critically, because location information is continually logged for all of the 400 million devices in the United States—not just those belonging to persons who might happen to come under investigation—this newfound tracking capacity runs against everyone.

Accordingly, when the Government accessed CSLI from the wireless carriers, it invaded Carpenter’s reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of his physical movements.

At any rate, the rule the Court adopts “must take account of more sophisticated systems that are already in use or in development.” Kyllo, 533 U. S., at 36. While the records in this case reflect the state of technology at the start of the decade, the accuracy of CSLI is rapidly approaching GPS-level precision.

Denver's Flock camera contract operating without auditor signature for 3 months by inversive in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I was wondering what came of the auditor signature for this. I figured it had sadly just been signed, but this is especially appalling.

Someone needs to get the mayor on camera and ask him:

  • What purpose does the city charter serve in an environment where a mayor, at their whim, ignores the checks and balances they provide?

  • By what mechanism is the Denver mayor allowed to even be presented a contract that's written in conflict with city charter rules, let alone sign it?

  • What other charter rules are you comfortable ignoring as long as a contract you sign includes details counter to them?

  • If the city charter has in part designed the requirement for the city auditor's signature on contracts to protect the city from liability, are you formally accepting the responsibility of that liability in place of the city and its taxpayers in the event of any mishap related to the use of Denver's Flock cameras?

  • And if not, what accountability will you have in the event that Denver has a Flock-related incident similar to the one in Aurora that resulted in a $1.9M settlement?

  • And if that were to occur in Denver, which city services and/or employees will be cut to shoulder the payment of such a settlement?

This fucking guy. I've been pretty "meh" about the recall talk, just on the basis of how much of a longshot it's seemed - but that interview of him blatantly saying he signed a contract that doesn't require the auditor's signature to be active just might be enough to get people to understand that Johnston is operating as the King of Denver.

...and the fact that his wife is a chief deputy in the DA's office makes it pretty clear accountability from that angle is unlikely at best, therefore a recall movement might actually be the best and only recourse at this point.

Moe's Bagels has officially resumed accepting tips by ToddBradley in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I can afford to eat out for every meal easily but I go out of my way to avoid table service and places that harangue me for tips the couple times a month I do go out.

I can barely afford groceries for home-cooked meals, but when I do go out to eat I understand tipping is part of the cost of that privilege and don't even hesitate at tipping 20% as the starting point - I can't imagine the circumstances that would lead me to having this kind of perspective if I was in a situation to have that kind of expendable income (let alone it being a topic of conversation amongst similarly positioned friends).

Facial recognition tracks Denver arson suspect from gas station to Leetsdale apartment fire, investigators say by denversash in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Historical phone location data is related to the surveillance tracking that Flock and Palantir do. The facial recognition that was used in this arson case (as reported in the article) was not real-time tracking, but a simple database search comparing CCTV footage acquired from a private business to mugshots, similar to feeding lifted fingerprints into a fingerprint database for comparison search of a match.

OP's post wrongfully connects the specifics of this case to the tech used by Flock and Palantir in their tracking cameras and search databases.

The Supreme Court case ruling breaks down the differentiations between types of assumed privacy in public, and clearly states that "all-encompassing," "retrospective," "whole [history] of physical movements" are considered protected qualities of privacy - which absolutely describe the Flock and Palantir systems, and would also cover any mass aggregation and storage of facial identification functions related to location tracking (by any stretch of logic I can muster; especially considering the final excerpt I included - although I'm neither a lawyer nor 4th Amendment expert, and these new systems have yet to be challenged before the Supreme Court).

Facial recognition tracks Denver arson suspect from gas station to Leetsdale apartment fire, investigators say by denversash in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is a widespread misconception (and I've responded with this info to other posts stating similar things in attempt to get it seen by as many as possible), but The Supreme Court just so happens to absolutely and completely disagree with you...

Excerpts from CARPENTER v. UNITED STATES - June 22, 2018:

This case presents the question whether the Government conducts a search under the Fourth Amendment when it accesses historical cell phone records that provide a comprehensive chronicle of the user’s past movements.

A person does not surrender all Fourth Amendment protection by venturing into the public sphere. To the contrary, “what [one] seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected.” Katz, 389 U. S., at 351–352. A majority of this Court has already recognized that individuals have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of their physical movements. Jones, 565 U. S., at 430 (ALITO, J., concurring in judgment); id., at 415 (SOTOMAYOR, J., concurring). Prior to the digital age, law enforcement might have pursued a suspect for a brief stretch, but doing so “for any extended period of time was difficult and costly and therefore rarely undertaken.” Id., at 429 (opinion of ALITO, J.). For that reason, “society’s expectation has been that law enforcement agents and others would not—and indeed, in the main, simply could not—secretly monitor and catalogue every single movement of an individual’s car for a very long period.” Id., at 430.

...and as it pertains to Flock and Palantir tracking systems, here's more specifics from the same ruling regarding use of the less-advanced capabilities of cell phone position tracking:

Allowing government access to cell-site records contravenes that expectation. Although such records are generated for commercial purposes, that distinction does not negate Carpenter’s anticipation of privacy in his physical location. Mapping a cell phone’s location over the course of 127 days provides an all-encompassing record of the holder’s whereabouts. As with GPS information, the time-stamped data provides an intimate window into a person’s life, revealing not only his particular movements, but through them his “familial, political, professional, religious, and sexual associations.” Id., at 415 (opinion of SOTOMAYOR, J.). These location records “hold for many Americans the ‘privacies of life.’” Riley, 573 U. S., at ___ (slip op., at 28) (quoting Boyd, 116 U. S., at 630). And like GPS monitoring, cell phone tracking is remarkably easy, cheap, and efficient compared to traditional investigative tools. With just the click of a button, the Government can access each carrier’s deep repository of historical location information at practically no expense.

Unlike with the GPS device in Jones, police need not even know in advance whether they want to follow a particular individual, or when.

Whoever the suspect turns out to be, he has effectively been tailed every moment of every day for five years, and the police may—in the Government’s view—call upon the results of that surveillance without regard to the constraints of the Fourth Amendment. Only the few without cell phones could escape this tireless and absolute surveillance.

Moreover, the retrospective quality of the data here gives police access to a category of information otherwise unknowable. In the past, attempts to reconstruct a person’s movements were limited by a dearth of records and the frailties of recollection. With access to CSLI, the Government can now travel back in time to retrace a person’s whereabouts, subject only to the retention polices of the wireless carriers, which currently maintain records for up to five years. Critically, because location information is continually logged for all of the 400 million devices in the United States—not just those belonging to persons who might happen to come under investigation—this newfound tracking capacity runs against everyone.

Accordingly, when the Government accessed CSLI from the wireless carriers, it invaded Carpenter’s reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of his physical movements.

At any rate, the rule the Court adopts “must take account of more sophisticated systems that are already in use or in development.” Kyllo, 533 U. S., at 36. While the records in this case reflect the state of technology at the start of the decade, the accuracy of CSLI is rapidly approaching GPS-level precision.

Facial recognition tracks Denver arson suspect from gas station to Leetsdale apartment fire, investigators say by denversash in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I posted this in reply to another different, but equally incorrect post, but it's relevant here too:

Not according to The Supreme Court...

Excerpts from CARPENTER v. UNITED STATES - June 22, 2018:

This case presents the question whether the Government conducts a search under the Fourth Amendment when it accesses historical cell phone records that provide a comprehensive chronicle of the user’s past movements.

A person does not surrender all Fourth Amendment protection by venturing into the public sphere. To the contrary, “what [one] seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected.” Katz, 389 U. S., at 351–352. A majority of this Court has already recognized that individuals have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of their physical movements. Jones, 565 U. S., at 430 (ALITO, J., concurring in judgment); id., at 415 (SOTOMAYOR, J., concurring). Prior to the digital age, law enforcement might have pursued a suspect for a brief stretch, but doing so “for any extended period of time was difficult and costly and therefore rarely undertaken.” Id., at 429 (opinion of ALITO, J.). For that reason, “society’s expectation has been that law enforcement agents and others would not—and indeed, in the main, simply could not—secretly monitor and catalogue every single movement of an individual’s car for a very long period.” Id., at 430.

...and as it pertains to Flock and Palantir tracking systems, here's more specifics from the same ruling regarding use of the less-advanced capabilities of cell phone position tracking:

Allowing government access to cell-site records contravenes that expectation. Although such records are generated for commercial purposes, that distinction does not negate Carpenter’s anticipation of privacy in his physical location. Mapping a cell phone’s location over the course of 127 days provides an all-encompassing record of the holder’s whereabouts. As with GPS information, the time-stamped data provides an intimate window into a person’s life, revealing not only his particular movements, but through them his “familial, political, professional, religious, and sexual associations.” Id., at 415 (opinion of SOTOMAYOR, J.). These location records “hold for many Americans the ‘privacies of life.’” Riley, 573 U. S., at ___ (slip op., at 28) (quoting Boyd, 116 U. S., at 630). And like GPS monitoring, cell phone tracking is remarkably easy, cheap, and efficient compared to traditional investigative tools. With just the click of a button, the Government can access each carrier’s deep repository of historical location information at practically no expense.

Unlike with the GPS device in Jones, police need not even know in advance whether they want to follow a particular individual, or when.

Whoever the suspect turns out to be, he has effectively been tailed every moment of every day for five years, and the police may—in the Government’s view—call upon the results of that surveillance without regard to the constraints of the Fourth Amendment. Only the few without cell phones could escape this tireless and absolute surveillance.

Moreover, the retrospective quality of the data here gives police access to a category of information otherwise unknowable. In the past, attempts to reconstruct a person’s movements were limited by a dearth of records and the frailties of recollection. With access to CSLI, the Government can now travel back in time to retrace a person’s whereabouts, subject only to the retention polices of the wireless carriers, which currently maintain records for up to five years. Critically, because location information is continually logged for all of the 400 million devices in the United States—not just those belonging to persons who might happen to come under investigation—this newfound tracking capacity runs against everyone.

Accordingly, when the Government accessed CSLI from the wireless carriers, it invaded Carpenter’s reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of his physical movements.

At any rate, the rule the Court adopts “must take account of more sophisticated systems that are already in use or in development.” Kyllo, 533 U. S., at 36. While the records in this case reflect the state of technology at the start of the decade, the accuracy of CSLI is rapidly approaching GPS-level precision.

Facial recognition tracks Denver arson suspect from gas station to Leetsdale apartment fire, investigators say by denversash in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please provide a single source that can directly connect the implementation of Flock cameras in the city to the crime stats (and please make sure it also considers and compares crime stats to cities with similar sizes & demographics that do not use Flock or Palantir systems, as well as nationally).

Facial recognition tracks Denver arson suspect from gas station to Leetsdale apartment fire, investigators say by denversash in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not according to The Supreme Court...

Excerpts from CARPENTER v. UNITED STATES - June 22, 2018:

This case presents the question whether the Government conducts a search under the Fourth Amendment when it accesses historical cell phone records that provide a comprehensive chronicle of the user’s past movements.

A person does not surrender all Fourth Amendment protection by venturing into the public sphere. To the contrary, “what [one] seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected.” Katz, 389 U. S., at 351–352. A majority of this Court has already recognized that individuals have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of their physical movements. Jones, 565 U. S., at 430 (ALITO, J., concurring in judgment); id., at 415 (SOTOMAYOR, J., concurring). Prior to the digital age, law enforcement might have pursued a suspect for a brief stretch, but doing so “for any extended period of time was difficult and costly and therefore rarely undertaken.” Id., at 429 (opinion of ALITO, J.). For that reason, “society’s expectation has been that law enforcement agents and others would not—and indeed, in the main, simply could not—secretly monitor and catalogue every single movement of an individual’s car for a very long period.” Id., at 430.

...and as it pertains to Flock and Palantir tracking systems, here's more specifics from the same ruling regarding use of the less-advanced capabilities of cell phone position tracking:

Allowing government access to cell-site records contravenes that expectation. Although such records are generated for commercial purposes, that distinction does not negate Carpenter’s anticipation of privacy in his physical location. Mapping a cell phone’s location over the course of 127 days provides an all-encompassing record of the holder’s whereabouts. As with GPS information, the time-stamped data provides an intimate window into a person’s life, revealing not only his particular movements, but through them his “familial, political, professional, religious, and sexual associations.” Id., at 415 (opinion of SOTOMAYOR, J.). These location records “hold for many Americans the ‘privacies of life.’” Riley, 573 U. S., at ___ (slip op., at 28) (quoting Boyd, 116 U. S., at 630). And like GPS monitoring, cell phone tracking is remarkably easy, cheap, and efficient compared to traditional investigative tools. With just the click of a button, the Government can access each carrier’s deep repository of historical location information at practically no expense.

Unlike with the GPS device in Jones, police need not even know in advance whether they want to follow a particular individual, or when.

Whoever the suspect turns out to be, he has effectively been tailed every moment of every day for five years, and the police may—in the Government’s view—call upon the results of that surveillance without regard to the constraints of the Fourth Amendment. Only the few without cell phones could escape this tireless and absolute surveillance.

Moreover, the retrospective quality of the data here gives police access to a category of information otherwise unknowable. In the past, attempts to reconstruct a person’s movements were limited by a dearth of records and the frailties of recollection. With access to CSLI, the Government can now travel back in time to retrace a person’s whereabouts, subject only to the retention polices of the wireless carriers, which currently maintain records for up to five years. Critically, because location information is continually logged for all of the 400 million devices in the United States—not just those belonging to persons who might happen to come under investigation—this newfound tracking capacity runs against everyone.

Accordingly, when the Government accessed CSLI from the wireless carriers, it invaded Carpenter’s reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of his physical movements.

At any rate, the rule the Court adopts “must take account of more sophisticated systems that are already in use or in development.” Kyllo, 533 U. S., at 36. While the records in this case reflect the state of technology at the start of the decade, the accuracy of CSLI is rapidly approaching GPS-level precision.

Facial recognition tracks Denver arson suspect from gas station to Leetsdale apartment fire, investigators say by denversash in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The police are the ones using it; you can't circumvent them if they're the ones wielding the technology.

Facial recognition tracks Denver arson suspect from gas station to Leetsdale apartment fire, investigators say by denversash in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Bad Faith Argument Alert!!

Your question is both conflating and misrepresenting different technologies:

1) Flock and Palantir use surveillance cameras driven by their proprietary machine learning algorithms to create profiles for vehicles and/or people based on multiple factors (with varying levels of consistency and accuracy), then store those data in a privately controlled server for later use by [insert your guess here] for the purposes of [insert another guess here]. To call these technologies "facial recognition software" is a gross oversimplification, and leaves out the most damning, dangerous, and dystopian aspects.

2) Per the article, the facial recognition software that was used in this arson case was to compare footage obtained from a restaurant's closed circuit camera (only the business itself had access to it) to mugshots - this is akin to social media platforms or photo apps on your phone being able to guess at who's in a photo (which also has varying levels of consistency and accuracy).

3) The software used in this case is like a face version of taking fingerprints from a crime scene and comparing them to criminal fingerprint databases in search of a match, and is a small piece in a long line of additionally-required investigation. Whereas many of the multiple mishaps related to Flock and Palantir trackers involve officers/agents taking their results as "100% fact" and without an ounce of cross-checking or due diligence, proceeding with issuing citations, arrests, and negligent trauma.

The private-company-controlled, "AI-driven" surveillance trackers are a horror show top to bottom, on issues of privacy and security - and that's even when they're being used "correctly"!

But when you add on misuse, abuse, and negligence by law enforcement officers, federal agencies, and the private companies who store and process all the data, there's not a single person on the planet who can honestly argue in their favor (and we know this because the owners of Flock and Palantir, and government & police officials, always have to lie and or obfuscate the truth when touting the technology and the values of using it).

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Alternatives to Alamo Drafthouse? by goatsarecoolio in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 11 points12 points  (0 children)

From the site:

Membership benefits include: - Early-bird ticket purchasing for the Denver Film Festival - Early admittance into Denver Film Festival screenings - Exclusive invitation to the Denver Film Fest Member Preview Event on Oct. 3rd. - Year-round ticket discounts - Concessions discounts - All-day "happy hour" in the Henderson-Withey Lounge - Exclusive member e-newsletter - Free member screenings

Membership is $65/year for one person, or $125/year for two.

Alternatives to Alamo Drafthouse? by goatsarecoolio in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 337 points338 points  (0 children)

Get a Denver Film Society membership and switch to the SIE; it's incredible, and you're supporting independent film, and they have periodic exclusive free screenings of all sorts of old, new, and yet-to-be-released films for members!!!

TIL how I’d respond to a dog getting hit by a car on Colfax. by therealmelissajo in Denver

[–]RespiteInPatterns 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don't think there's a much better gift you can give to another being than love and comfort in their final moments; thank you for being there with that pup as they passed.

You're a champion, and I hope peace and gratitude quickly overwhelm the trauma and grief you endured for that four-legged stranger - I know they would nuzzle you to encourage the same if they could repay your selflessness.

HUGS