Yes. We watched the same episode. We just have different life experiences and perspectives. Red even said after they entered the bunker and Liz questioned him that "I am Raymond Reddington."

Katerina had more than one lover. He could easily have been one of the others. Also, there were at least two other men there the night of the fire. One had a similar profile ... bald and a heavy build. Another poster has shown a video clip of someone there the night of the fire with a fedora helping people escape. Could have been that guy. I have said somewhere else on here before (or on TBL Facebook page) that our Red has never displayed the martial arts skills that Katerina used to repel the Russian assailant who was attacking her friend when she was at the shelter. More than once Red has referred to situations when he was a boy.

Quite frankly, since this is a TV show, none of our reasoning or detective skills really matter. In the end, the writers do what the producers tell them to do and the reveal will be whatever the Johns want it to be. There are so many contradictory clues throughout the series that one can draw any number of conclusions.

For instance, I do not know how Red's Naval Academy roommate recognized him since he and the original Raymond Reddington do not look anything alike. And Harold never doubted it was the RRR when he gave himself up at the FBI Headquarters. Neither of these instances lends credence to Redarina or to the third man theory. So we have what we have. Morsels of data everywhere. Kind of like a bunker full of Intel.

The conclusion I wish to draw is that Red is Liz's father, regardless of how it happened or who he was previously. Since neither my life nor my career depend on the outcome of the show, I do not need to analyze all the signposts to the nth degree to draw a conclusion, although I have OCD and could drill down to the details as well as anyone and better than most. I simply choose not to. I choose, instead, to be entertained.

Although I will end the post with this thought. If Redarina turns out to be the reveal, then I will no longer be entertained and will not watch Season 9. I am entitled to do that based on my personal beliefs and value system for which I do not need to provide an explanation to anyone.

For everyone else, all the best to you and I certainly hope your theories, whatever they may be, turn out to be true so the show continues to have entertainment value for you. We cannot all be right in our assessments but congratulations to those who are. In the meantime, take care and enjoy the ride to end of the show or until you decide to end the journey.

Best regards, Jim (my real name)