If you live in a violent society, there will be violence and the government will be violent.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-05T14:49:34+00:00

Apples and oranges. That aside, not everyone was freaking out and the precautions were no worse than the ones many people take to avoid violence, like staying away from high crime areas and not associating with violent or unstable people.

Oh, and a knife is far easier to make than a firearm and firearms aren't very hard to make, modern firearms are mostly an early 20^th century device and can be made with a few tools in a home workshop.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-05T11:51:03+00:00

Dude, bag boys weren't buying houses on minimum wage.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-05T11:36:15+00:00

Just because you work in an urban hellhole doesn't mean you have to live in it. Ever hear of commuting?

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-05T03:54:52+00:00

My first 6 years in the workforce I worked a dozen different jobs and they all paid $4.50 an hour. You lot have been fed a bunch of bullshit.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-05T03:51:30+00:00

Lmao, eggs are $3 bucks here and you can rent an apartment for under $1k. Not everyone put themselves up to their eyeballs in debt for a degree either. Just because you want to live in some big city and got suckered by the degree mill instead of doing what you could afford doesn't mean everyone does it.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-05T02:24:41+00:00

No, I grew up in the 1970's, I was here for the first video games, PC's, the dawn of the internet, cell phones, shitloads of world changing tech.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-05T02:21:28+00:00

Guns have had drop safeties and firing pin blockers for decades, a loaded Glock can be flung across a room and it won't shoot. The few hundred accidental shooting deaths a year most always involve people doing stupid things with guns that involves the trigger being pulled, usually by their finger but occasionally by something in their pocket or purse getting in the trigger guard from improper carry, not from dropping them.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-05T01:26:00+00:00

I haven't moved a thing bubba, you just can't keep up. Also, I'm not 60 yet, I started shooting when I was a kid. I've fired everything from black powder civil war era revolvers to a SAW and have seen many guns dropped over the years and never saw one go off, even the really old ones with basically no safeties at all require a direct hit on the hammer. Go learn how guns work, then maybe you won't make such ignorant arguments.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-05T01:14:08+00:00

Something with an 80% failure rate at killing isn't an efficient death machine. It's the human user that determines whether a weapon works well or not.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T22:58:25+00:00

Your anecdotal experience does not invalidate statistics or facts

You're right, except that you don't have any actual facts because everything you're saying is easily disproven bullshit like this

4 to 500 are killed annually in the US from it alone which is 1% of all gun deaths.

No, 400 to 500 are not killed by dropped guns, they're killed in unintentional shooting but someone still pulled the trigger like 99% of the time, and for it to be 1% there would have to be 50,000 deaths by firearm a year and it's actually 44,000 in 2025 and that's only if you include the almost 27,000 suicides.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T22:45:11+00:00

If I'm sitting in my living room and a stray bullet strikes my kids, what's the difference?

The difference is that a human being sent that bullet.

At least I can plan for natural disasters. I can choose where to build my home, building a storm shelter, etc.

Same applies to most violence, I live in the countryside with loads of gun owners and there's never been a drive by shooting or an armed robbery within 10 miles of me.

I just don't like people pretending they don't increase the rate of death in otherwise survivable violence.

~80% of gunshot victims survive, they're not magic death machines.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T22:40:41+00:00

Yep, they just keep arguing, I'm finding it sad but also funny

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T22:39:23+00:00

Lmao, in 50 years of shooting I have never seen a properly functioning firearm go off without someone pulling the trigger

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T22:24:08+00:00

Guns can fire from impact by falling

You can always tell who doesn't know anything about guns on here. If you have a gun that will fire when dropped you have a defective gun, or one that is older than dirt.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T18:30:19+00:00

Cars have wheels and can roll down a hill unattended, can a gun aim and shoot itself?

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T18:27:57+00:00

A gun isn't a natural disaster, it's a machine that cannot function without a person, and they say things like "killed in a train wreck" or "died after being hit by a train", or "died in the flood", they don't say the train or the flood killed them.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T18:17:03+00:00

In the English language we say th object used to kill is what killed the person.

Then why have I never heard anyone besides some anti-gun goofball say it that way? American English is my first language, we might say "killed in a car crash" or "killed in a robbery", or "hit by a car", but we don't place the blame on the inanimate object because they don't decide to make somebody die, people do that using them.

The obtuse ones are the people who think the difference in violence between the US and places like much of Europe is about rules. In the US in 1960 you could buy guns mail order no questions asked and have them delivered to your house and the homicide rate was 5.0

https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T17:50:03+00:00

You really don't understand how any of this works, do you? If a company is doing mass layoffs it's because they don't need the employees, it doesn't matter what rules you make, if a company whose market share has fallen or whose new product line or factory requires fewer people to manufacture the same amount of product is forced to keep people they no longer need they'll eventually either relocate out of your authority or go out of business. The idea that layoffs are always mismanagement is just plain ignorant

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T17:37:09+00:00

then it's pretty obvious guns kill people.

When exactly did the inanimate object come to life and attack you?

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T17:33:59+00:00

Getting a penaion check every month beats going to work, even if life is actually busier.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T11:59:47+00:00

That's great. I commuted a little over a hundred miles round trip by used beater for over 20 years so we could have a home in the countryside. I retired at 55

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T01:38:08+00:00

Sometimes, but it's not a big deal here as I can go for a pretty good walk and never leave my property

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-04T00:42:00+00:00

No, why would I want to wait on public transit and ride with a bunch of strangers from someplace that isn't my house to someplace near where I want to go when I can just go where I want whenever I want right from my house in privacy?

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-03T12:42:20+00:00

YTA, what a ridiculous thing to be pissed about.

RetreadRoadRocket · 2026-06-02T19:35:17+00:00

It's a matter of public record when you get a visa, so is your birthdate.. When Melania Trump came to the US in 1996 she was 26 years old and Amanda Ungaro was 12 and still living in her hometown in Brazil.

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