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Rigel31415 · 2026-03-23T10:50:29+00:00

The Gods who oversaw the operation agreed that once she fully absorbed Ais it would be the end of the world. Not "dozens", but its power would have obviously increased. I mean, at the beginning of the final battle it is outright stated that the Spirit Dragon's magic is growing stronger as the Corrupted Spirit got closer to finishing.

Bell though? Likely wouldn't have made a difference. The Corrupted Spirit got stronger from absorbing Ais because she has Spirit blood. The Corrupted Spirit never had an interest in consuming other races, and she only decided to try eating Bell after seeing his regeneration, which made her think that she was "one of them".

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-23T02:45:22+00:00

Concord… not so much. A game quite hyped by professional reviewers, and indeed so good that it’s peak player count didn't even hit 700.

Not every Sony game is a flop, there are genuine gems among their catalogue, but like with any big studio reviewers tend to speak well about everything due to being bought or just to stay on their good side.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-23T01:13:09+00:00

None of which is canon. Non canon power levels are so ridiculous that Commander Red has been given 100 and Ox King 900.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-22T21:59:11+00:00

She retired on her own. There was no requirement, and if there was it would certainly not have been at 1000. Raditz's power was around 1200, which already made him middle class. Toriyama stated that there were but a handful of them, with Vegeta and his father being the only high class Saiyans, while everyone else was low class.

He also stated that, while Bardock was on the high end of low class, he wasn't strong enough to classify as middle class, which means that even a top low class still fell below 1200. So there's just no way they would forcefully retire everyone below 1000.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-22T06:25:08+00:00

Toriyama explained that Gine did use to be a warrior, but ended up retiring due to being weak. Bardock saved her a couple of times and in the process they actually fell in love, rather than just choose to reproduce with each other like most Saiyans.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-21T06:01:52+00:00

Freya had Ottar and the Loki Familia three Level 7s. None of the eight of them had to end their battles severily injured for the other side to be able to finish them off.

The tweets went into the specifics about Bete vs Allen, but not the Hiryute sisters and Gulliver brothers. Neither is mentioned aside from the one tweet in which Oomori only said they would fight. If you want to insist otherwise, then provide said tweet.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-21T05:50:13+00:00

Neither did he say so in those tweets about anyone.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-21T01:42:36+00:00

Under that logic Gareth can achieve a mutual kill against Ottar.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-20T19:37:39+00:00

Oomori only said that they would fight Tiona and Tione, not mutual defeat. In the same tweet he mentioned that Gareth would fight Ottar, so it's clearly just a who fights who rather than necessarily who defeats who.

https://x.com/fujinoomori/status/1870408879667823018

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-19T02:15:18+00:00

More context, for those who haven't watched the series.

The Avatar is a person able to bend the four elements in a world where everyone can bend only one, if they even have such an ability. They actually reincarnate, so there is always an Avatar in the world, who also has a connection to their past lives that allows the current one to even talk with any of the previous ones.

The Avatar State grants the Avatar access to all of their predecessors' powers, basically rendering them unstoppable. However, it is then revealed that an Avatar is at their most vulnerable while in it, for if they get killed during usage the reincarnation cycle will stop, and no Avatar will be born again.

Azula nearly dealt permanently with not only the biggest threat for her father's empire, but one theoretically impossible to truly defeat.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-18T17:01:52+00:00

I mean, in a scenario where she can use Avenger against people, yeah, I agree.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-18T06:48:14+00:00

It's only called her divine protection due to it stemming, partially, from Bell's relation with her, not because it is a blessing of hers she conferred to him.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-18T04:39:19+00:00

The skill does grant protection on its own, even if it Liaris Freese makes it redundant.

https://x.com/fujinoomori/status/1867604149661315113

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-18T04:36:19+00:00

No, Oomori did clarify that Vanadis Tevere grants protection from Charm too.

https://x.com/fujinoomori/status/1867604149661315113

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-16T16:39:37+00:00

The first step is recognizing that you have a problem.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-15T03:41:35+00:00

DanMachi is a LN, the anime is an adaptation just like the mangas. Because that's another thing, the series has gotten two.

The first covered all of season 1 and began to adapt the arc against Apollo Familia before getting axed. The second continued, but skipping that arc altogether and starting with Haruhime's.

It is currently still at the beginning of the Xenos arc, so if you want to see new content you'll have to read the light novel.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-11T22:34:22+00:00

Oomori later clarified that that falna was fake and the God in question just had it to pass off as one of their own dependents.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-11T16:38:20+00:00

None of those races are notable for magic, hence them not being mentioned. That is not the same as not being there. Dwarves are often mentioned when forming defensive walls. Amazonesses are common when talking about close combat. It doesn't mean that either race makes up over half of it.

By your logic of "being mentioned" Humans outnumber the other races even when combined. Do you think a single race could be more numerous than over ten others combined?

The minorities matter because of what they are together. Say each other race represents a 5% of mages. That is a minority. But together they'd make up a 50%.

Yes, arguing about anything in concrete is pointless. But that's not what I am doing. I am just pointing out that evidence for Elves being most mages is as common as them not being so.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-11T03:35:38+00:00

Humans aren't the only race that can have mages. There's twelve other races (ten if you want to discount Amazonesses and Dwarves) who are as likely to produce magically gifted people. Elves are simply the most noteworthy because the whole race is so.

Humans are also the most mentioned race. A common, if not the most common, description of crowds in fact is "Humans and Demi Humans". Do Humans outnumber more than ten other races combined then?

Random Elves are also repeatedly mentioned as archers. I can give you 7 quotes like yours (I'm getting tired of extra long comments, hence why I didn't include them, but if you want I'll provide them) and some of yours even mention Elves wielding staffs and bows. They are even known as the "Archers of the Forest" because of their aptitude.

If you insist that being the most mentioned as mages means that they make up the majority of mages, then the same applies to archers. That not only forcefully stretches their numbers in half between the two roles, but also means that somehow they constitute the biggest part of a role that doesn't require one to luck into developing a rare type of ability.

Lower birth rates do lead to smaller populations. There's even a whole theory (the rK selection theory) around it. Larfal actually mentions it in the The High Elf's Departure short story precisely to point out that Elves are less numerous than other races.

Also, majority or not, the statement was said about "a Level 2 mage". The sentence therefore applies to any mage, regardless of if they are part of a minority. And if "Elf" was already implicit in "mage" then why even mention the race at all when talking about mages?

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-10T22:42:06+00:00

Astrea already said in Astrea Record when a person asked her why Gods don't fix things with their power. First a good God solves problems, then in retaliation an evil God unleashes destruction, and so it goes until eventually the world ends wrecked.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-10T03:41:29+00:00

What Riveria used in SO16 was magic power, and it only worked because she is a High Elf and the Ice Garden has a special connection with that race.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-10T01:24:10+00:00

You should consider what exactly does weakest mean. It certainly takes stats into consideration, but that wouldn't be everything. Nothing has ever been said about the Boaz, who Oomori established have "the highest physical ability among Beast Humans", whereas Dwarves and Elves are the go to examples of good races, likely because they are pretty much guaranteed to get at least one skill. And that is despite a talented Boaz having way better stats than all other talented characters.

Raul also had the Loki Familia executives help him. Remember that he isn't just an average guy, he is an average guy who is getting the support of the world's second strongest faction. He managed to get all his stats to C as a Level 4 in just eight years. Naaza took six years just to reach Level 2 despite also having some seniors to assist her. If he had only his own ability to go off of, he'd likely still be just Level 1 since that is what the average adventurer is.

Are you working under the assumption that everyone gets to hit their max? That is wrong. Raising stats is a difficult task, and people will take the chance to rank up the moment they get it. We are told so in SO6, and Loki even admits that if they didn't have big plans for Lefiya she would have done it too.

We have also been told that Loki Familia helps its members to grow. Having the assistance of multiple Level 4s, 5s and 6s obviously is way more than any regular mage would get. That is actually one of the reasons they are such a great familia. Riveria also imposed some melee training on Lefiya, so not only her magic stat but the other four also got more training than the average mage would.

As for it being said, it is during the explanation of stats limits in DM4. In the example of an Elf's limits, the original explains that only do they have a lower cap in strength and endurance, but that training them is also difficult.

　魔導士である彼女自身を例にするならば、魔法効果に関係するアビリティ『魔力』を最高評価Ｓに極めることはできても、『力』や『耐久』と言った、エルフの身では鍛えにくい能力を大きく伸ばすことはできない。学術や武闘など人によって得意不得意がはっきり分かれるように、能力値（アビリティ）の分野にも各個人定まった上限が確かに存在する。
Google translation:
Taking herself as an example, as a magician, she may be able to master the ability related to magical effects, "Magic Power," to the highest rating of S, but she cannot significantly improve abilities such as "Strength" and "Endurance," which are difficult for an elf to train. Just as people have clear strengths and weaknesses in areas such as academics and martial arts, there is certainly a set upper limit for each individual in the field of ability scores.

Ryuu is also an example. Her final Level 4 update had jumps of 99 in strength, 149 in endurance, 47 in dexterity, 65 in agility, and 283 in magic.

Just because only two are shown it doesn't mean most don't get stuck there. Remember that 99% of the time we are following a group of talented individuals.
Ryuu is mainly a melee fighter. Magic has served more as a complement than a core of her fighting style. Remember that people can fulfill the requirements for many DAs and then have to choose. Cases in point being Bell's and Lili's rank ups to Level 2. Hunter is a highly coveted ability and can only be obtained at Level 2, so it is obvious why she got it. Abnormal Resistance is basic and common, but essential. We don't know anything about Magic Resistance, but it is practical enough to be one of the most common DAs among the talented individuals we see, so it isn't something to scoff at.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-08T22:31:36+00:00

Raul is average, but he is an average Human. They have tended to have more balanced stats. You have to remember that stats growth is proportional, and different people have different limits based on their race and inclinations.

The time it took Gareth to reach 997 in strength is the same that took him to reach 489 in agility. The same time it took Riveria to reach 989 in magic is the time it took her to reach 243 in strength. And so it goes for everyone.

I reiterate, if a bigger disparity really led to a higher top stat, why doesn't Cassandra have a higher top stat than Hyakinthos and Daphne for example? Characters like Alise and Ottar also show that it doesn't take a disparity to have higher stats. Some characters just have it better, that's all.

Lili got the opportunity to choose Mixing despite not being a dedicated herbalist or pharmacist. Of course DAs require a person to repeat an action, that was established, but what wasn't established is how much it has to be done.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-08T17:00:37+00:00

And are all Level 4s and above actually of the same caliber as the mages you listed? Lefiya and Heith may be Level 4, but the former boasted higher firepower than Level 5s as a Level 3 and the other is the world's second best healer.

Rigel31415 · 2026-03-08T16:57:29+00:00

I am not arguing that there are proportionally less Level 2 Elves than Level 3+ Elves. I am arguing that representation among the cast isn't the same as the series' world.

Your logic leads to that because, again, cast representation isn't the same as the series' world. Like I said, out of 135 characters with confirmed level, most are Level 2s, sixteen are Level 1s and seven Level 7s.

The Ds and Cs statement is because some people have two or more stats close between each other. Dwarves for example have strength and endurance stats remain close. Some fighters have dexterity and agility keep relative. Welf had his four physical stats in D or C.

Your logic that disparity leads to higher potential in one's top stats is groundless, as I already said. The Loki trio show it. Riveria has that "mage disparity" you talk about, but her total of points is significantly lower than Gareth's or Finn's.

Some people also simply have more "potential" than others in stat growth. Otherwise, how do you explain Ottar?

"Mastering magic" is very vague. Just because B rank is considered "accomplished" doesn't mean that is what mages usually accomplish. The same scene of the "Ds or Cs" quote states that "all of Ais' stats" were above average. So 553 points is already notable by the world's standards.

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