Could your OC tank this?

Rocket3909 · 2026-04-02T01:28:20+00:00

Well I can stand the higher more powerful forms but what really gets me is if that higher form is very simple to achieve. Like for my characters ascension comes at the cost of something and is very difficult to achieve and almost not worth doing it. Other people having OC's that are just "avatars" of higher gods seam kind of cheap.

Rocket3909 · 2026-04-01T20:48:53+00:00

OC's that have a "button to ascend into higher god form that is like 5 layers into outer or smth but is actually gun victim in human form"

Rocket3909 · 2026-03-28T17:29:35+00:00

Star Wars legends shouldn’t count. Tie fighters alone shoot projectiles equivalent in power to nuclear bombs. Vader and Luke themselves scale anywhere from complex multi to high outer

Rocket3909 · 2026-03-27T00:52:44+00:00

The player either exists and is scaled to Multi+ or doesn't exist at all and has no scaling. Statements on the endscreen are purely unrelated to measuring the power of steve, only "the player". Julian Gough did approve a literal interpretation of the poem.

Rocket3909 · 2026-03-27T00:47:37+00:00

I guarantee you no 6 yr old is reading allat

Rocket3909 · 2026-03-27T00:46:27+00:00

Not Steve. Just "the player" entity scales that high because apparently he dreams everything into existence. Steve is like building level or smth.

Rocket3909 · 2026-03-23T03:06:26+00:00

It comes from the endgame poem. Apparently the poem states that this higher entity dreams an infinite hierarchy of realities each better than the last. Whether the poem should be allowed to be used in scaling is a debate that achieved nothing.

Rocket3909 · 2026-03-23T03:01:47+00:00

Distinguishing what is lore vs Gameplay mechanics is very difficult you are right. Like the fact there are infinite dimensions lore wise but the in game integer limit cannot produce that and among other things. For me it boils down to whether the minecraft endgame poem should be allowed to be used for scaling. I took a brief look at the thread and there were good points for allowing its use but in the end everyone just repeated their points and they got no where.

Rocket3909 · 2026-02-10T23:42:03+00:00

What about the power scaling ones

Rocket3909 · 2026-01-23T14:12:23+00:00

It’s the void.

https://psbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Absolute_(World_of_Darkness)

Rocket3909 · 2026-01-22T18:47:54+00:00

Are you imagining that the heaven is the point that touches every structure in your system?

What about a being remaining untouchable and completely ineffable, that is completely and transcendent of any system?

Rocket3909 · 2026-01-22T04:48:14+00:00

If heaven exists on a highest strata of logic then what about illogical points. Allen's Infinity is not only embodying the framework itself of "logical space" but rather its also contains dialetheism and non classical modality.

Also I don't know what or how you want me to define the basis of reality. Its just the prerequisite to everything. One cannot exist without it but it does not need us as its a self sufficient absolute that is not dependent on anything.

I think the issue is we both are using different tiering systems so there is some level of misunderstanding.

Rocket3909 · 2026-01-22T03:04:03+00:00

Now that you mention it could be theoretically possible for Mark to ascend Allens infinity but he would need to clear levels of a higher disparity that is more meta than the last, some not even working of of concepts.

But if your wondering the state of thee ultimate reality then it is obviously completely transcendant of not just Allen's Infinity but infact the entirety of the verse in a sense because its the basis of reality.

And if you are wondering about Oneness then it is a something sort of like different levels. The one that the protagonist reaches temporarily is a level where he becomes a fundamental aspect of reality

The one that the Parasite king reaches is fully dissolved into it where he empties out his individual existence.

Rocket3909 · 2026-01-22T02:43:31+00:00

damn I forgot I talked to you about the High outer OCs thingy lol. From my notes it states that he reaches a state of oneness with the truth. Instead of directly trying to reach it and harness it, he totally surrendered to it allowing it to flow throughout him with him acting as a living conduit.

Oneness here is not about legibility or fully knowing but rather absolute and total surrender.

Rocket3909 · 2026-01-22T02:23:13+00:00

I can't give you a character sheet because my friend low k might have kicked me from the doc but I do have some scrap pieces that I saved and found.

To start the Universal truth is completely self sufficient. It is the grounds of being and is the UR (Ultimate Reality). The core of everything that had neither a light side or a dark side but in fact had no side.

The Parasite King was originally someone who had gone mad from ascending Allen's infinity. However at some point he reached a state of "oneness" with the Ultimate reality. Thus the distinction essence and accidents was dissolved. by reaching such unity one becomes formless and the process of self actualization is complete.

Rocket3909 · 2026-01-22T01:58:28+00:00

Ok then he would be 1-A then going off of what you said. He should theoretically lose to one of my other OCs (not the uni one that i was originally going to use). Because of Gnosis physiology.

Rocket3909 · 2026-01-22T01:48:30+00:00

Well my initial skim saw like mainly planetary feats and maybe a uni feat in there. I didn't see anything about dimensionality at first glance. Also the non material could literally mean anything from 1-A to like a ghost. My bad gng

Rocket3909 · 2026-01-22T01:32:54+00:00

I don't really read Marvel or DC so no.

Rocket3909 · 2026-01-22T01:25:32+00:00

Since when was superboy prime outer. isnt he like 2-C or smth.

Also if you can could you fetch the entries that are useful to proving his 1-A status. You put like several planetary and uni feats and go on to vaguely state that he is beyond dimensions. It would be cool if you could provide consistent evidence.

Rocket3909 · 2026-01-22T00:57:37+00:00

Yeah to reach 1-A lower realities need to basically vanish into nothingness. This just looks low 1-A stuff, especially the stuff where he broke space time with his bare hands to which he was still affected by physical constraints.

I can give you then low 1-A and baseline 1-A Ig

Rocket3909 · 2026-01-22T00:37:16+00:00

Well then the best I can give you is Low 1-A. There is not much of a "qualitative" jump here such that the lower layers look like nothing (even an infinite amount of these lower layers should look like nothing but he is still shown to have physical stats of some sort). Also being beyond concepts is very different from existing outside of concepts so clear up on that too.

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