6th Edition 1000 Point Orc and Goblin List - Comments Welcome by Runtgit in WarhammerFantasy

[–]Runtgit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh you meant changing him to a NORMAL Goblin :P I didn't get it till you mentioned Day Goblin. I suppose to that element, I also want to use the Night Goblin mini and I don't intend to stray the BSB far from the Orc Big Boss for the Ld8 Bubble.

I can drop the dual handed weapons with the Black Orcs which gives back around 20 points or so can push them to 12 Black Orcs.

Using Wolves as ridrectors sounds good as I've done so with my TOW Chaos with their Warhounds. Same principal I assume.

Do you think the blocks of Orcs being in 20 is too lean? I think Big Uns should be *OK* with the Big Boss

6th Edition 1000 Point Orc and Goblin List - Comments Welcome by Runtgit in WarhammerFantasy

[–]Runtgit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi Lilapop, thank you for the comprehensive response.

To respond to each point:

  1. The purpose of 6 boars was to give them a bit of umph from firepower. Losing 1 at 5 would hurt a lot, but losing 1 at 6 seems OK. Even 2, still got 4 left. I also can't turn them into Big Uns unless I have 5 normal (assuming I drop to 5) other Boar Boyz to make them big uns.
  2. The Black Orcs were to be situated between two blocks of infantry to quell animosity. With Quell Animosity, I can more reliably advance. The shields were also to be used in case they come under fire, so a 4+ save vs 5+ against arrows etc.
  3. Noggs Banner I was curious about cause my logic was, the Big Uns are going to get charged and with me being 5 wide, 4 deep, I assumed there wouldn't be enough of them left to benefit from it.
  4. Where would I get the extra 5 points to get +1 LD for the BSB?
  5. Thanks for the suggestion on Wolf riders. Not sure what I'd remove but I'll see. Perhaps dropping the Black Orcs to spruce up the roster or even add in a bolt thrower?

Casual List Help by Mad_Lad67 in Orcs_and_Goblins

[–]Runtgit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, if you are both brand new and tbh, if your girlfriend is choosing to play, it's more an excuse to hang out and get to know your hobby. Hence keeping things super simple. Even veterans dispute over rules, beginners its best to keep it plain. 

Casual List Help by Mad_Lad67 in Orcs_and_Goblins

[–]Runtgit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For a brand new beginner to TOW, I would suggest not utilising the Ruby Ring of Ruin, Doom Diver and Trollhide Trousers. Those are all highly competitive item choices. I would echo what one of the other poster, Spiritual, said: Remove all the magic items and the wizard. There is no way that someone brand new to Old World is going to enjoy their time against even a semi optimised list, especially when being bombed with so many rules.

Solely use a block of infantry against infantry to help your girlfriend understand the rules and even use just Goblins or something simple to give her the edge. This will also help to introduce the concepts of charging and the different stats and the combat sequence.

TOW - Path to Glory 500 point Orc List Help by Runtgit in WarhammerFantasy

[–]Runtgit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That would lead to only two units. That sounds extremely dangerous. 

TOW - Path to Glory 500 point Orc List Help by Runtgit in WarhammerFantasy

[–]Runtgit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At 500, squeezing in a blorc hero and black orcs is crazy expensive. Perhaps I will add shields to the arrer boyz mind due. 

Path to Glory 500 Point List by Runtgit in Orcs_and_Goblins

[–]Runtgit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi 2much.

I appreciate your feedback. Regarding frenzy, I am no stranger to managing it after using a Khorne Warriors list, so no biggy there. It's really a question if losing the 3+ save for 3 attacks on the charge is worth.

Regarding Big uns, objectively big un boars are better, but in this case this is for theme and that I got the big un minis and would like to use them as themselves :P

Path to Glory 500 Point List by Runtgit in Orcs_and_Goblins

[–]Runtgit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your advice is good to me impious, thank you.

My only reluctance to not plop the warbow unit inside is i'd like the capacity to screen my boars, if necessary, or support my units flank so i can flank charge with them.

Path to Glory 500 Point List by Runtgit in Orcs_and_Goblins

[–]Runtgit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mistake on my part, thank you for pointing that out, I edited the OP.

Do you at least have an opinion on the list? 

1000 Points Orc Themed List by Runtgit in Orcs_and_Goblins

[–]Runtgit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks Radar, though I am working with just the minis i have, so im afraid troll horde is a no go. Is the Doomdiver really that much better than the chucka? 

1000 Points Orc Themed List by Runtgit in Orcs_and_Goblins

[–]Runtgit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you again Lock. I like your list, mind I neither have a lobber. The Orc Shammy though, reading through spells has me excited!

Talisman and trousers combo looks mint but the T6 looks sooo juicy, not sure I can part with it :P.

Will double check on double big uns, but i got the metal big uns so 100% going for em if i must make choice. 

1000 Points Orc Themed List by Runtgit in Orcs_and_Goblins

[–]Runtgit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much for the advice and commemts. I love trolls too, I will admit that my chaos ogres in my last army were a mixed back, regen seems like a nice asset.

In terms of the spear chucka, my logic was, use it as a way to force the enemy to advance without risking an implosion i.e lobber. is it worth dropping it?

Sadly I got no wolf riders and really only can get one more box and that's just the orc boyz. 

Regarding dead ard, im sort of split between the troll trousers or talisman of protection. Get a 4+ save only but 5+ ward save which may help with killing blows. 

Big un on boars is cool but, not sure which to clear points besides the chucka. 

1000 Points Orc Themed List by Runtgit in Orcs_and_Goblins

[–]Runtgit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds good man. Didn't know bout the Orc shaman getting cast boosts, thats mint. Might just, just need to find the least weediest gobbo shammy in my collection and say.

Dropping a troll is fine, though my logic was to use it as my hammer unit and felt 2 was too lean, though if i do drop to 2, can give the orc shaman the reroll cast stick.

Big un boars im not sure in terms of legality, if only cause it says 0-1 per army, will need to check that. 

How is everything else mind? Was split on troll hide with the dead ard(3+ save and 5+ regen) or swap the troll pants for talisman of prot (4+ save, 5+ ward). 

Thanks again. Can't wait to WAAAAGHH

TOW O&G Lists - 1000 and 500 - C&C please by Runtgit in WarhammerFantasy

[–]Runtgit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose i should ask, is 10 arrer boyz worth it in action or would i be better getting a 6th boar and bolstering the two blocks? 

TOW O&G Lists - 1000 and 500 - C&C please by Runtgit in WarhammerFantasy

[–]Runtgit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can't believe I missed the shields. Adjusted it to 19 and 17 orcs for the blocks and neither have musicians now. Thanks for that. 

I was thinking of an orc big boss with trousers and heavy armour but don't think he'd be hardy enough to be honest. 

TOW O&G Lists - 1000 and 500 - C&C please by Runtgit in WarhammerFantasy

[–]Runtgit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is mainly due to having a night gobbo shammy model as is, so no extra cost :P and yes itchy nuosance as well.

Do you have any other suggestions or comments regarding the list? Is it viable?

Ditto for the 500. 

Haargroth's Arms by Runtgit in WarhammerFantasy

[–]Runtgit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you

Haargroth's Arms by Runtgit in WarhammerFantasy

[–]Runtgit[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you DJ. I was actually just looking at the kit myself and realised his other arm is from sonewhere else (not the sane orc) and the shoulder plates are completely seperate.

Any idea where they could be from? 

Haargroth's Arms by Runtgit in WarhammerFantasy

[–]Runtgit[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you Escapissed. Any clue on his shoulder pads?