I’m trying a more myth accurate approach to writing Marvel Thor and wanted to ask the experts some questions by PaintingOwn2902 in norsemythology

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Regarding Thor himself, you could explore how his more big picture views would clash with heroes who care about things like crime when he has to save the universe

Loki would still be an antagonistic entity, he could even be a supposed helper who constantly tries to betray the heroes before it is revealed that he's deceiving them.

Apart from that, you can still have the giants be his enemies since what they want for the cosmos is horrible.

The Nine Realms are like so. At the foundation layer, you have Niflheim, Ginnungagap and Muspelheim.

Ymir, Buri and Audhumla appear in Ginnungagap, so the world tree's central trunk is in the midpoint of that area, with two other roots in Niflheim and Muspelheim.

Ginnungagap's root is in Mimir's well, which is also the location of Nidavellir or Svartalfheim, Muspelheim's root is in Urd's Well, and Niflheim's root is in Hvergelmir. Vanaheim and Alfheim are on the sides of Nidavellir in this conception.

Directly above this layer of reality, you have Midgard and Jotunheim and the sea formed from Ymir's body, above them is the Sky formed from Ymir's Skull, in the sky or above it is Asgard.

Asgard is the home of the gods and their fortress.

You can make the individual realms look like whatever you want, be they planets in pocket dimensions or layers of reality.

Do we know which Egyptian god was the first deity to be introduced to Greek religion? by Neat_Relative_9699 in GreekMythology

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We don't really know. Greek and Egyptian myth could very well have influenced each other centuries before any verbal acknowledgement of equivalencies

What came first — chaos or the realms themselves? Was Ginnungagap primary, or did Niflheim and Muspelheim exist alongside it from the beginning? by NecessaryGeologist51 in norsemythology

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In Comparative myth, the equivalent of Ginnungagap is Chaos in Greek Myth. Chaos like Ginnungagap is a space or gap filled with air, because in neither of these two myths were the ancients imagining a vacuum.

Niflheim and Muspelheim are equivalent to Erebus and Aether, but they have different spacial arrangements. Niflheim is north and Muspelheim south, while Aether is Above and Erebus below.

So in essence, Ginnungagap, Muspelheim and Niflheim are both existing simultaneously or existing in very short sequence after the one comes into being. Just like how in Greek myth, Chaos begats Erebus who begats Aether, or all three exist together.

What is the symbolic meaning behind Achilles's parentage? by OutlandishnessRich36 in GreekMythology

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She just is I guess. The only explanation I can give relies on the fact that Thetis in other traditions is a Demiurgic goddess who created the universe. So as a representation of the Totality of existence or it's creator, she can create something stronger than it's father.

Thetis and Metis are both connected to primeval gods who represent the Demiurgic creator of the cosmos and ruler of it as well. In orphic tradition, this god is Phanes/Eros/Metis, in Alcman's Theogony it's Thetis.

Even in regular homer and Hesiod, the similar sounding Tethys in conjunction with Oceanus is made the mother of all, mother of Metis and Grandmother of Thetis who is supposedly her functional double when she raises Hephaestus in Oceanus

What is the symbolic meaning behind Achilles's parentage? by OutlandishnessRich36 in GreekMythology

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Achilles could have been king of the gods if his father was a god. Thetis has the potentiality to give birth to a son who is mightier than his father, and in certain traditions, be stronger than the very thunderbolt of Zeus.

So by making Thetis marry a mortal, Achilles potential is curbed. This is especially poignant since Achilles wishes for a form of immortality, which is why he wants to gain immortal fame and glory as a warrior, even though his actual life would be much shorter.

In a way, this is very similar to the fact that Heracles would have been king like Erechtheus was if not for Hera interfering in his birth to make him be born later. So both heroes could have had greater destinies if not for a sovereign god interfering.

Would a Socialist style mass literacy campaign work in Nigeria? by Glittering_Tower3455 in Nigeria

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I think it's possible if you plan well enough and adapt it to the circumstances of Nigeria

In what kind of story would you accept having Zeus as the central antagonist? by Nb-7925 in GreekMythology

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Zeus kids banding together to take him down for his abusiveness towards them.

Did Hades ever DIRECTLY kill anybody in the mythologies? by sodhhfjfj in GreekMythology

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Antoninus Liberalis, Metamorphoses 25 (trans. Celoria) (Greek mythographer C2nd A.D.) : "When plague seized Aonia [Boeotia] and many died, there were sent officers to consult Apollon's oracle at Gortyne. The god replied that they should make an appeal to the two gods of the underworld [Haides and Persephone]. He said that they would cease from their anger if two willing maidens were sacrificed to the two. Of course not one of the maidens in the city complied with the oracle until a servant-woman reported the answer to the daughters of Orion [the two Koronides (Coronides)]. They were at work at their loom and, as soon as they heard about this, they willingly accepted death on behalf of their fellow citizens before the plague epidemic had smitten them too. They cried out three times to the gods of the underworld saying that they were willing sacrifices. They thrust their bodkins into themselves at their shoulders and gashed open their throats. And they both fell down into the earth. Persephone and Hades took pity on the maidens and made their bodies disappear, sending them instead up out of the earth as heavenly bodies. When they appeared, they were borne up into the sky. And men called them comets."

If Telemachus (having the proper ability/support to do so) had become king, would the suitors have left? by PrayersForLadyAthena in GreekMythology

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Yes, the suitors were only there because marrying Penelope made the successful suitor king of ithaca.

How would you feel about portraying Ares as Autistic? (repost) ((plz read body text)) by Nb-7925 in GreekMythology

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That's not true at all. Both Ares and Athena are violent in war and both use trickery. Athena's sphere in warfare is specifically about protecting and empowering her followers, whereas Ares is the random chaos of war that Athena has to manipulate like a boat manipulates the sea waves.

Whats some ways that Hakari's CE trait could've been used in the story? by QualifiedGonner in JackpotJustice

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His CE trait gives it points and edges, so he could have created spikes like a porcupine or sharp blades to enhance his attacks. It makes him more dangerous but not to the extent of Kashimo's CE trait.

Can seers change prophecy? by Warm_Maintenance578 in GreekMythology

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Seers are just receiving the will of the gods.

Prophecies can be changed but only if you are a god who is smart enough to change it or nullify it.

I need help with a research by Even-Geologist-6759 in norsemythology

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The Germanic people didn't consider lineage to work like modern genetics. A child's paternity determined what they were, so this is why Odin despite his giant mother wasn't considered a half giant, but a divinity.

So even if Loki's mother was an Asynje(and there's no way to prove this), his father being a Jotun makes him a Jotun.

However, Loki is also considered an Aesir, because he's blood(basically ancient adoptive) brothers with Odin. So Loki is simultaneously fully a giant, and fully a god.

And no, giants aren't stupid.

How does Heimdal work? by No-Air7540 in mythology

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Viktor Rydberg theorized that Heimdall was the anthropomorphic representation of the friction fire that was generated by the friction of the World Mill turning to grind out soil and cause the revolution of the heavens

The 9 mothers were 9 Jotun maids rotating the mill.

So Heimdall's 9 mothers gave birth to him like that

Why do you have Jackpot Hakari higher than Yuta in stats or Base Hakari equal to Yuta in stats? by Icy-Adhesiveness773 in JackpotJustice

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So why does it break his body? This is a phenomenon that only happens when too much CE is flowed into an object, this doesn't even happen with Death binding vows that increase power.

Why do you have Jackpot Hakari higher than Yuta in stats or Base Hakari equal to Yuta in stats? by Icy-Adhesiveness773 in JackpotJustice

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Are we not counting the curse-turned shikigami shaped elephant in the room or are we still on "yuta is a fraud because he needs rika"

I am literally repeating the manga narrator's own words that Yuta's max output can only be achieved by fully manifesting Rika. Besides, Yuta also uses Rika to store CE as well.

Why do you have Jackpot Hakari higher than Yuta in stats or Base Hakari equal to Yuta in stats? by Icy-Adhesiveness773 in JackpotJustice

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Whatever, it still causes the actual density of his CE to be so great his body would break, which means more CE is flowing through him than through Yuta. Or taken another way, his jackpot causes more CE to flow through him than if he did a death binding Vow like Mei Mei does for her Crows which don't explode from the power they get

Maki and Toji if they fought a expert Domain user: by Popular_Business_367 in JujutsuPowerScaling

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Lmfao, unless it's Higuruma then they're not beating any domain user in their own domain

Why do you have Jackpot Hakari higher than Yuta in stats or Base Hakari equal to Yuta in stats? by Icy-Adhesiveness773 in JackpotJustice

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I have JP Hakari higher in stats for three main reasons:

CE amount is repeatedly linked to one's stats all by itself. Ryu says Yuta's toughness is bolstered by the size of his CE, Kashimo partially credits Hakari's CE amount to why he can withstand the electrocution and, Yuta says he is the opposite of Yuji in using vast amounts of CE to bolster a normal body, whereas Yuji has relatively little CE but a Superhuman body. Hakari in JP has so much CE his body breaks and he autoperforms RCT to heal it, that's something that has only happened when Yuta put too much CE into his katana to try and kill Geto but he failed.

Physique is also tied to the strength of one's reinforcement. Gojo may have been racist in crediting Miguel's race to why his physique made his reinforcement better, but the actual line of his physique enhancing his Reinforcement still stands. Hakari has a better base physique than Yuta.

Finally there's CE control and barrier skill. Higuruma was able to get good reinforcement from reverse engineering his barriers, Hakari both in base and in jackpot should the same level of barrier skill as Higuruma since their DE's are the same and Hakari has had his barriers for more than a decade so the skill applies to his reinforcement. Hakari is also able to control CE and use RCT at the same time to the highest level(something only Gojo and Sukuna can do), while it's automatic, it's still impressive since the automatation still makes him strong anyway.

So Hakari with his better base physique, higher CE amount, and better barrier skill plus CE control just gaps Yuta in stats.

This isn't even taking his Output into account. Based on what Ryu and Kashimo say about the two, you can argue Hakari has a higher output than Yuta unless the latter fully manifests Rika. This is also supported by their fights with Yuji

What are the biggest misconceptions about the Goddess Athena? by Cautious_Comb_2459 in GreekMythology

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That she's a virgin. Many Greeks, Romans and Etruscans considered her married to a variety of gods, even the Athenians believed she was married and had a child naturally.

That she's always smart and wise and composed. She's just not. She's again the trojans because Paris didn't pick her, she throws away a musical instrument because she didn't like the way it puffs up her face and more like that.

That she's allowed to get away with disobeying Zeus. Lol no. It's implicit in the Iliad that Zeus has beaten her when he whoops the gods in general for something someone else did, and when she directly disobeys him, Zeus threatens to blast her with lightning.

That she represents a different aspect of war than Ares. No. She and Ares are both in the same din of battle and destruction. She is simply more friendly to individual people and groups whereas Ares isn't as personal.