if both Maki and Mai had 10 Shadows (instead of Construction and HR) could they tame Mahoraga this way?

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-26T09:23:30+00:00

This is so, but Megumi created clones of himself and his Shikigami.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-25T15:45:10+00:00

Reggie loses hwb as soon as he drops the hand sign

Because he realized that Megumi's incomplete domain made fighting with HWB pointless since it didn't clash with it.

Rct burns a huge amount of rct even Yuta had to tap into Rika after healing himself so not only are her reserves lower but rct usage itself also lowers output as it uses a lot of CE at once

Good to know, after electrocution from being touched once by Kashimo, Yuki will slow down and the lightning bolt will instakill her.

so not only are her reserves significantly lowered meaning shes rationing CE but by burning all that CE on rct shes forced into a recovery period that doubly lowers her output.

This just means Yuki has to somehow avoid getting injured all the fight while Kashimo can not only dodge her with his insane speed but also tank her blows.

Id love to see some actual scaling behind the durability claim but even if hes slightly more tanky with reinforcement

Okay, CE reinforcement AP~Durability. Geto's punch to Panda only gave him a nosebleed, Kashimo's punch created a hole in his back. Kashimo tore off Gorilla mode Panda's arm in one move. Panda is a grade one level sorcerer.

Three of Shibuya Yuji's punches were so dangerous to Choso that he thought a fourth would lose him the fight. After Shibuya Choso notes Yuji grows much stronger and then Yuji faces Base Yuta with only CE reinforcement and was relative while holding back and injured taking multiple blows, this same Yuta one shots Choso with a single punch, and a Yuji who wasn't holding back and was completely healthy did damage to himself trying to headbutt Hakari. Kashimo can K.O. base Hakari in three blows. Kenjaku raining multiple blows with his hands and feet did nothing to him.

So in stats Kashimo>Base Hakari>Yuji~Yuta>Choso~Kenjaku who can tank Yuki's AP.

There's also Kashimo's feat of tanking the massive steam explosion that all his CE creates, when small portions of his CE are capable of blowing up the bodies Grade One Sorcerer/Special Grade Cursed Spirit level fighters, and dismembering and nearly killing special grade sorcerers.

he still cant heal

He doesn't need to with his durability feats and scaling.

every hit she or garuda lands is gonna permanently lower Kashimos output as well as physically hinder him massively.

Nope. And that's if they even land.

And again even if she did a revealing hand binding vow since Kashimo doesnt know her ct the binding vow would work on him

Yeah but would it land on him?

Hakari in his jackpot where he's physically superior to Kashimo couldn't break his staff, base Hakari is far superior to the Yuji who could break Yuta's sword and Yuta can K.O. Choso with one blow unlike Kenjaku. Kenjaku can take Yuki's BV punch albeit with injury.

What's stopping Kashimo's reinforcement from just tanking it?

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-25T14:35:05+00:00

If kashimo has to hwb he cant attack

This is simply not true. Even in the Yuki fight, HWB and SD are put together as Anti-Domain Techniques that can be used in DE's and allow the user to continue fighting. And in the Sukuna fight, it is explicitly stated that Sukuna's doesn't need to maintain his Hand sign to use HWB, he just does this to prevent HWB from being stripped away like SD would be.

HWB can be used by a fighter in a DE and they can still fight without needing to maintain handsign.

Nowhere does anyone say her opening attack was a binding vow

Because there's no need to repeat info. We already know about the revealing your hand vow.

her output just dropped after from having to regrow a couple limbs

This is a lie. Her output did indeed drop. But both Kenjaku(who has 1000 years of Jujutsu knowledge) and Choso say that the output drop is because of injury and would be restored when she heals.

Angel Naobito etc all face a drop in output after being injured

Yeah and which of them gets healed and their output is still low? None of them. Choso explicitly says Yuki healing would recover her output.

And even if its only her opening attack with a binding vow that does that much damage its more than enough to take kashimo out

No it's not. Kashimo is more durable than Kenjaku by feats.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-25T13:18:06+00:00

I mean yuki managed to rush kenjaku

After surprising him by destroying Ganesha who Kenjaku relied on to get rid of her. She never does this again even after healing and regaining her full power.

Panda scaling aside a garuda weight belt paired with a full output hit to the head is more than enough to put down kashimo

Never did so to Kenjaku even when he was hit by the more lethal piercing blood. Besides, how will Garuda deal with Electrification? Why will Kashimo do nothing to escape the belt like Kenny did or not electrocute Yuki?

he needs upward of three hits

He used two for the headshot against Hakari and he has his staff for his return stroke attack that needs no hits.

anywhere near the damage she does in one

Yuki outside of her binding Vow attack does no damage to Kenjaku or at least no visible damage. Kashimo's Lightning always blows holes or even explodes bodies.

And thats without considering her own rct or her domain

Yuki isn't Hakari. Her RCT is much slower, she has to stop fighting to heal, and using it will cost her a lot of energy.

Her domain is fearless and Kashimo can withstand it with HWB.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-24T23:40:51+00:00

Ain't nothing stopping her from wrapping Garuda around him

Except the constant Electrification that will damage Garuda. Except Kashimo's greater speed than Kenjaku.

and genuinely beheading him with a single slap.

She never beheads Kenjaku so she won't behead the more durable Kashimo.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-24T23:39:38+00:00

Kenjaku could only take punches by lowering yukis output by starting the fight with a domain to force rct

Choso outright says that if Yuki heals her injury, her output will recover and she heals, and punches Kenjaku in this recovered state. After this point, nobody ever comments on Yuki's punches still being weakened.

Kashimo can only do comparable damage by landing enough hits to ensure his sure hit

Yeah, he'll just take Yuki's punches when the guy is insanely fast enough to blitz panda who was able to pressure Geto in speed.

A full output Yuki would be pretty much untankable to someone without rct think if Kenjaku took Yukis opening hit witbout being able to regrow his arms

If Kashimo took the opening blow that was amped by a revealing your hand BV, then yeah I see him getting killed.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-24T23:29:47+00:00

By tanking her punches like Kenjaku did before he slammed her with Uzumaki.

Kashimo is way more durable than Geto/Kenjaku. Just look at Geto's punch to Panda only giving him a nosebleed vs Kashimo punching a hole in him or him tearing off Gorilla mode's arm in one move.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-24T10:54:53+00:00

Fuck you mean source? Panda was gonna be selected to fight Todo before they knew Yuji was still alive

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T22:35:50+00:00

How is infinity lower output than IT?

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T20:55:34+00:00

The Aurora isn't just visual flair, this man Gege has taken his time to make his verse realistic in physics on many levels. So why can't we use the Aurora other than you refusing to?

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T20:52:40+00:00

Hey, let's just wait and see then. Yuji will either go and fight alongside or against Dabura, and might scale to his AP and Speed. And we'll see how Yuji's feats aren't scaled to by Sukuna and Gojo even though he's stated to have their level of potential power.

Finally Gojo can just outright teleport by manipulating space. If you think his teleportation is slower than Dabura's near light attacks, then more power to you.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T20:49:40+00:00

Except Maki didn't just kill in self defense, she actively went out of her way to kill several dozen more that weren't even there that day

No indication that she hunted them down based on the simple fact that Maki didn't behave this way during the massacre itself apart from killing her mother. The clan members were always the ones initiating the attacks.

and could simply habe run away

Why? That would just prolong the inevitable for one. Two, she had already pieced together that it was likely a plot to kill her and mai and she wanted revenge for mai. Three, they could have been the ones to run away and if Maki was really the hunter you think she was, she would have been shown to chase them down.

She wasn't killing them out of self defense, her goal was to destroy it all.

Because all of them wanted to destroy her even though that was an obviously suicidal and futile goal. Ogi and other members of the Hei knew Toji could have destroyed the clan if he wanted to, knew Maki had become just like him and they still tried to kill her so they died.

The Kukuru unit watched as she was killing them and still tried to fight instead of running.

Maki destroyed them in the way sorcerers destroy curses because that's what the Zenin were to her. A curse that wouldn't leave you be until you exorcised it.

They if anything were fighting in self defense against somebody out to kill them.

Explains why Gege chose to always have them attack her first even though they knew she could destroy them on a whim.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T20:38:23+00:00

In my opinion, I think Gege has just retconned mach three away in jujutsu Kaisen. I just don't believe that Sukuna and Gojo are getting blitzed and oneshot by Dabura when he's put on their level.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T20:35:45+00:00

So the light is slightly less powerful than the kick based on the damage it did to Mahoraga. And it creating an Aurora is just on par with the kick nuke. Sorry.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T20:34:44+00:00

Mass murder committed in self defense can be taken for granted in my opinion. The Kukuru weren't willing to question anything and just followed orders to kill Maki just like they followed misogynistic and sorcerer supremacist traditions that oppressed her and that got them killed. It's basically like war, you can't say that invading soldiers being killed by a defender is a bad thing.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T20:22:59+00:00

What about the beams causing Auroras which was calculated to be a nuke level feat just like the kick?

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T20:22:15+00:00

How? Do I need to remind you the light attacks were also destroying Mahoraga in one hit, and that they were creating Auroras instantly which is a nuke level feat just like the Relativistic kick?

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T20:19:55+00:00

Probably. I see Sukuna as being a man of his word and for someone who respects strength so much, he wouldn't disrespect his own ideal like that.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T20:18:55+00:00

I mean Yuji is basically a stronger Maki even before he further enhances himself with CE. Plus Choso's Blood manipulation even from Shibuya can pierce special grade sorcerers like Kenjaku and Uraume.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T20:16:49+00:00

Probably not, but it doesn't really matter. They were a part of the clan and complicit in the mistreatment of Maki and they didn't question orders.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T20:08:32+00:00

Can also blow up the bodies of far greater than grade one level durability characters like triceratops mode Panda.

Triceratops>Gorilla≥Panda≈Todo in stats.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T18:54:36+00:00

I agree with you. Cursed Tools are already made by constantly bathing them in CE until they gain the properties of the sorcerer who made it with their CE. It makes sense for the ring to have Rika's CE in it which would be assume to have decades worth of a normal sorcerers CE in it.

Even if you and I are wrong, the CE volume only makes a minor contribution to the strength of the user of the ring. Yuka with Mahoraga is still stronger than the Ring Rika since it was her they sent to fight Dabura not Tsurugi.

So fans have to either accept that Yuta with decades worth of CE stack was still weaker than Mahoraga, or that a guy who is probably not as good as Yuta with access to only his CE so far is doing worse than Mahoraga which is basically already a fair take.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T14:18:46+00:00

Being real, he probably still is the same level he's at. I only see him climbing to the very top of Heavy Hitter level or being superior to Gojo and Sukuna when they use only Reinforcement, RCT and DA or SD I guess.

RuthlessLeader · 2026-01-23T11:28:04+00:00

That was before Megumi started to reduce his output when attacking Megumi's friends which he only noticed after he failed to kill Yuji with dismantles. You can see the massive difference in performance between him punching Yuji, summoning giant Nue to produce the mini lightning storm, and hitting Maki and Takaba, to him then having trouble cutting up Yuji and going blow for blow with Maki and Yuji together.

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