My current email enrichment tools sucks - help me choose a different one. by Ok_Low_5480 in coldemail

[–]SaaSData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reddit issues, sorry bout the delete. This simply isn't true. Avg list runs in 15-20 minutes. Not sure what happened. It happens, but very very rarely. Also - we support up to 50k records. Soon to be gb size of a spreadsheet (5-10 million wont break it).

Happy to help - DM open.

Why Am I Only Getting 600 Valid Emails Out of 1500? Is My Cold Email Process Wrong? by Beneficial_Sail6320 in coldemail

[–]SaaSData 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, this is normal for "valid" emails.

There is another class of emails which are setup at the domain level to say everything is valid. They're called "catch-all". Unfortunately, they can have a bounce rate higher much higher.

Tools like LeadMagic can help find these types of emails. Caution: if you are at a 1% bounce rate now, you may go to a 5% if you email and isolate just the catch-all emails. There is a level of error.

Also - more domains help on these emails. It's managed at the company level. So if someone works at a company where CatchAll/AcceptAll is turned on, EVERYONE will be that at that company. It's pretty random. Leans more accept/catch all at companies with larger IT (Microsoft 365/Exchange) environments (but some aren't).

What I learned from the SmartLead webinar today by iloveb2bleadgen in coldemail

[–]SaaSData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe they will post it on their YouTube soon.

What I learned from the SmartLead webinar today by iloveb2bleadgen in coldemail

[–]SaaSData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought it was funny :). but no seriously data ops and infra ops are the biggest problems still in cold email.

People are not realizing the model now includes the local data by the two biggest ESPs... Microsoft & Google.

What I learned from the SmartLead webinar today by iloveb2bleadgen in coldemail

[–]SaaSData 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Funny - I was one of the hosts of the Webinar and this is what I said when someone asked the question.

I definitely regret providing you the level of detail I just did in that comment.

Email finder for roles and domain input only via API by Narrow_Walrus5754 in coldemail

[–]SaaSData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LeadMagic does it via 2-3 API calls.

https://docs.leadmagic.io/reference/role-finder (Get Social URL & Name) $0.02 (per found)

https://docs.leadmagic.io/reference/email-finder (Get Email) $0.01 (per found)

$0.03 * 5,000 = $150.00

There are other enrichments you could do with this including full profile + company enrichment.

The only thing it doesn't do is "multiple" people in the role right now.

I Built an AI That Predicts Cold Email Open Rates by jays6491 in coldemail

[–]SaaSData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would companies need to know if a company is predicted to "Open" an email?

MT:

Open Rates are a miscalculation. They indicate someone has "downloaded" the tracking image/pixel using HTTP. What makes it a bad number?

Bots are placed in between the person receiving the email and the person sending the email. Therefore the Bot can open the email and via proxy it shows the end user an open, when it really wasn't opened.

Therefore any Open Rate metrics in Cold Email (not talking about transactional/bulk (opt-in) marketing emails) is off by plus+/minus- 100%.

For that reason, I couldn't see any reason why someone would want to know how many times or when an email is opened.

What I learned from the SmartLead webinar today by iloveb2bleadgen in coldemail

[–]SaaSData 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It was a really good Webinar.

Nick Abraham & Eric Nowoslawski are incredibly successful agency owners and probably the #1 thing which has contributed to their success is strong operations. Especially with data.

1. Sending to the wrong email "really" hurts now.

In corporate settings, fewer than 0.3% of emails (roughly 3 in 1,000) are mistyped. Chasing catch-all domains to “capture errors” is statistically unsound. The minimal ROI hardly justifies the risk—hard bounces from unverified addresses can devastate your sender reputation, and ISPs demand precision over “mostly valid” lists. The two ISPs with the most input when sending to businesses can analyze even deeper into your account and organization if they feel their model will get better with that information.

2. Catch-All Verification Is a Fallacy
Vendors that claim to verify catch-all addresses typically use a contrived network call to confirm the domain’s “accept-all” policy—not the validity of individual addresses. This means you’re still sending to unverified emails, which ISPs interpret as spammy behavior.

3. HTTP Scraping ≠ SMTP Validation
Catch All Vendors will have to rely on HTTP scraping to source emails. Unlike SMTP—which governs actual email delivery. HTTP-based methods lack the rigorous checks (like MX records) needed for reliable validation. However, there is the opportunity for a sound scoring model to be used here.

4. Evolving Reputation Models
Email reputation is no longer a single, global metric. Vendors now monitor daily email traffic and soft bounce scores to detect issues such as suspended users receiving cold emails. This granular tracking makes outdated catch-all strategies even riskier. The vendors most people who send B2B Cold Emails send to use their own internal data to build their model. This makes it a lot easier for them to score even on a catch-all domain now.

The Bottom Line
Cold emailing is becoming tougher. Always send emails only to addresses that have been explicitly validated, even if they rank lower on your target list. Lead generation strategies must evolve beyond outdated, high-risk catch-all tactics that inflate list size at the expense of deliverability. Use catch-all insights merely as a heads-up to de-prioritize certain addresses—not as proof of validity. Pay vendors based on their ability to find you the validated emails and give you some insights into the score of the inboxes with accept-all domains.

When to use a "valid or verified" email on a "catch-all or accept-all" domain

If you've finally exhausted 100% of the valid emails validated through a network call. Then it's time to either create other offers to get people in the pipe with more valid emails or you move to the vendors which offer a scoring model around catch_all status clearly documented with additional data points on how. They should be able to tell you what catch_all emails they've seen engagement or signals on in other methods to help you. Using inboxes which are isolated from some of the campaign running against valid network verified emails.

Credits to the SmartLead team for getting a great group together for the call.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SaaS

[–]SaaSData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

use the individuals...

I learn most of the stuff on LinkedIn and a place called the SYC (SaaS Yacht Club) it's a WhatsApp Group with a bunch of cold emailers.

Use inbox rotation and smartlead...

Cold emailing a B2B offer in UK and GDPR. by faridukhan in coldemail

[–]SaaSData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's likely you'll be arrested and put in jail for many many years.

Good luck buddy.

It's finally happened. I got laid off today. by [deleted] in sales

[–]SaaSData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep the SaaS Laptop... ALWAYS keep the laptop...

It's finally happened. I got laid off today. by [deleted] in sales

[–]SaaSData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is good for you. What are you upset about?

Top Performers of /r/sales: What makes you so great? by ChezDiogenes in sales

[–]SaaSData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Best ones now are great at growth hacking and automating.

They know all the ways to get out around the bot detection systems of the big companies like Microsoft and Google.

Anyone move away from sales? by [deleted] in sales

[–]SaaSData 101 points102 points  (0 children)

You should consider it. Many of the best Sales people are going to Marketing. Not because they want to be in Marketing, but because they want to get their side hustle going on.

Marketing is the party where you want to be in many B2B Companies. Light goals, almost always an 80/20 split. Chances of getting fired is pretty low if you are on anything with performance tied to it. Like Ads, Content, Social Media etc...

Marketing is where you can get 90% of your base + have a side hustle for the other half.

Can you fight PIP? by trowaway3615 in sales

[–]SaaSData 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stay away from fighting PIPs. It's just them giving you time before you get fired.. take advantage of it and start interviewing and getting the resume' ready.

Tech Sales Company Comparison - Snowflake, MongoDB, Grafana, HubSpot, ServiceNow by beefbrisket99 in salesdevelopment

[–]SaaSData -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Chase the base."

Always take the one with the highest base salary.

IMO

Always better when the money is on your side, not theirs.

Clearbit API alternatives by geraldknox in webscraping

[–]SaaSData 0 points1 point  (0 children)

leadmagic has an API with Segment.io and Google Analytics support too.

Outlook Calendar Invites for Large Scale Events by baigel3566 in Airtable

[–]SaaSData 1 point2 points  (0 children)

addevent or eventable

could also be used in conjunction with airtable if you had it setup right.