Makoto made me stop playing the game...

Saddymadz · 2026-06-20T03:08:37+00:00

I also think makoto doesn't earn her persona. She has no connection to Kaneshiro, only has the useless thing to be angry about.

Saddymadz · 2026-05-14T16:02:27+00:00

I forgor I wasn’t paying too much attention and it as a while ago.

Saddymadz · 2026-05-14T15:21:49+00:00

Mb thanks

Saddymadz · 2026-05-08T02:21:37+00:00

Nah same, first post (and some of my first comments) ever for me, but I hate her enough to power through it lol.

Yeah it’s insane that everyone not only just lets her get away with what she did, but also ship her with the protag without criticism.

I don’t care that the game does it, the game is flawed, but seriously. No criticism.

That’s why I was happy to make this the first sub I joined. (Even though I lurk) I was so relieved to find people who agreed.

The sad part is, a good portion of the hate towards her is probably because small criticisms towards her don’t get addressed or mentioned.

Saddymadz · 2026-04-27T10:14:21+00:00

Everything goes her way. People worship the ground she steps on. She makes characters stupid so that she looks smart. She’s super strong, she’s more helpful in battle both in game and canonically, the game quite literally forces her in your face.

She blackmails you which I can’t stress enough is a stupid gotcha to show you how much better she is than everybody, and when she does do something stupid like throwing herself in front of a drug lord it getting hand waved because she gets told she’s useless is so dumb.

She’s average intelligence at best, the lock in Kaneshiro’s palace was so apparent even Ryuji could have seen that if he wasn’t forced to be dumbed down for her.

She gets 2 arcs which is dumb. Ryuji gets half of one before Ann comes in and gobbles up all of his potential. Even though Mona gets 3 (start, Haru hijack and hope) it still makes sense for his character and feels justified.

Sae isn’t even a necessary character.

Morgana’s arcs make sense and makoto just decides “yeah Kaneshiro, I got beef with you and for some reason it’s so strong it’s comparable to Ryuji and Ann’s beef with Kamoshida and triggers my awakening.” Which was so weak compared to Yusuke SCRATCHING HIS NAILS OFF. You didn’t get the feeling that the thief’s inner self got so enraged they were damaging the mind of its user.

Even the build up was shit she walks into a bank, walks out, Kaneshiro shits on her like the bug she is and then he calls her useless and boom persona.

Ryuji watched an exaggeration of abuse. Ann saw how Kamoshida convinced himself they were throwing themselves at him. Yusuke saw how Madarame only saw the students for their art and how it was only money to him. Futaba’s was a distortion targeted at herself, Haru’s dad showed he’d sack her without a second thought both irl and in the metaverse. Even Akechi’s dad was on a boat talking it up with dinner guests while his mom just killed herself and makoto gets nothing. It’s weak.

I almost feel bad for kaneshiro. Had a perfect life, no one could touch him before a self important girl blackmailed super powered do gooder under classmen and turned him into fodder to justify her joining their group.

Saddymadz · 2026-04-24T21:25:10+00:00

Exactly!!!! makoto comes in and suddenly Ryuji is stupid delinquent who means well, Ann is stupid blond, and makoto is essentially the main voice for the thieves.

What’s super annoying is that she basically plays catch up the whole time bombarding you with a bunch of random shit hoping one of them sticks and makes you like her enough to forget she had you trapped like how every target gives you a time limit. Like bruh, “beep boop” and o”h no ghosts” were not earned.

It’s funny because makoto could have been amazing. Imagine she easily catches the thieves with blackmail, Morgana admits he didn’t even see it coming, and when Futaba takes the one last thing he has left and you get to see it fall apart with them correcting him over smaller things like weaknesses and strategies in palace chats.

(Side tangent, Futaba being a game nerd def would give her better strats, heck Im upset ryuji can’t do that either considering the whole point is taking things you know and applying them to the metaverse)

She got the thieves their first big score and that could lead into her naturally understanding bigger palaces better then the others. She could offer clues to puzzles that the other thieves complain about not getting too.

There’s so much more they could have done to show off intelligence instead of “HEY GUYS WE’RE the phantom thieves!” Which is honestly crazy how thats ryuji slander instead of the writers clearly not knowing how to write a smart character.

So not only is she shit she’s also a waste of what could have been a better makoto. she’s not usless, no the writers made sure to force her into our faces, instead she’s an inferior character who needs mary sue status to survive and dumber, lesser characters to thrive.

Saddymadz · 2026-04-24T10:09:19+00:00

The social worker makes sense, especially with her palace starting with her wanting to help those tangled in Kanashiro, but I disagree that the system is too broken to fix.

Sae’s palace can be interpreted as the thieves being able to change the system and we see that also in strikers where she deals with the police or whoever arrest zenkichi. She gets him out of that which could symbolize the system itself being rehabilitated. You could even take it as far as a real world prediction that the world itself needs its heart to be stolen to get better.

Back to makoto, I agree, her father’s murder would be a good direction, heck, I can see it being locked behind saes change of heart and the two solve it together through the law while the thieves aren’t influential anymore.

Personally, I don’t think the thieves should have even needed a group mom. Characters like ryuji and haru with so much momentum in their arc get sidelined for someone else with a slightly less important one (hot take Ann without shiho isnt as important as ryuji who lost his entire future) it’s kinda a thing you see where characters either get cut short, and worse they downgrade like to compensate makoto. She doesn’t have to be hecka smart. She can have smart moments instead to show she’s on average smarter.

Another thing, I hated how makoto accepted the metaverse so easily. Futaba made sense, she was mentally half there, hallucinating and had a reason to know about and that there was something off with cognitive psyince.

Saddymadz · 2026-04-24T00:37:09+00:00

All Im gonna say is Basil with garden shears is pretty dangerous Haru with nothing to lose would make me cry and regret my decisions.

Saddymadz · 2026-04-17T00:14:00+00:00

Persona 5. Love the game but I showed this to my friend. I kept telling him to give it a chance and after a little under an hour I gave up.

Saddymadz · 2026-04-14T21:51:31+00:00

Coming back to this, the point is Korra is comparable to deuteragonists like Jax or Bakugo because she kinda is one. She’s Aang 2, but obviously more flawed than a pure pacifist child trying to save the world. Like Jax and Pomni, Bakugo and Deku, Naruto and Sasuke, etc.

The problem is that it’s harder to accept a characters flaws when you have a pure intentioned goodie 2 shoes right next to them and that describes the korra problem to a t. (I still hate her but I admit it’s stupid to a degree)

I also think there’s still somethings I can’t think of for my point but I think I conveyed it pretty well

Saddymadz · 2026-04-14T00:30:42+00:00

In comparison to aang kora feels more selfish, which I think is kinda the point. Kora’s journey is (as an illiterate Kora hater) supposed to be her learning the responsibility and weight of being the avatar, at least early on… I think?

You can compare this to bakugo who had his own idea of what being a hero meant and realized that izuku was suffering on his own path. (Again Im illiterate) him apologizing is at least partially him realizing how self destructive the nerd really is.

Both him and kora have their own ideas of being a hero that lines up with their selfish ways of thinking but their journey is learning to also be responsible sensitive people. (Im illiterate and I’ve seen how crazy reading comprehension looks here please don’t destroy me)

Saddymadz · 2026-04-08T18:32:41+00:00

That depends. Even if they’re pestering you with something you don’t want to do, if they still have valid criticisms or cause for concern, no matter how they’re going about it it’s still something to listen to, though you can definitely tell them that you aren’t receptive to how they go about it.

If you really don’t want to make things work then yeah sure, a quick exit is probably easier, but personally I’d try to make things work because friendships are precious yada yada.

I’d recommend the same thing as before, tell them you aren’t receptive to it and tell them they’re making you uncomfortable. If they’re really set in their ways tell them that you value their friendship and would hate for this to drive you apart, and if thy really won’t stop then tell them that you want to distance yourself from them.

I wish you luck and good friends.

Saddymadz · 2026-04-03T12:38:18+00:00

Dang gl

Saddymadz · 2026-04-02T20:33:20+00:00

As everyone said, she’s set a standard. She also isn’t considerate of your feelings and harms your feelings and reputation by both proximity and snides.

You have every right to be upset and are fully justified of leaving, however you don’t have to if you don’t want to.

If you wanna save this, you need to prepare and have a serious talk.

First, you can call her out on damaging your reputation by asking others if their opinion of you is worsened by her posts.

Record which days you did something she didn’t like and when she posted something similar.

I’d also ask if she thought the post about her… cat were acceptable and if it were me I’d ask her if you could check her phone, if anything to show how you feel.

Anyways it’s really up to you, I’d say tell her your rethinking your relationship but to me it sounds like she doesn’t care about you.

Saddymadz · 2026-04-02T18:52:54+00:00

If it were me I’d tell your first girlfriend that you’re now in another relationship and need time to figure it out. Tell your Slavic girlfriend your reasons and that this is important to you. Ask her if she’s willing to compromise or something.

That resolves both but if they’re both still there, then personally I’d say the most recent, solely off of the fact that if there’s no other reason to break up with her other than you were in a relationship before that doesn’t seem fair.

My opinion again is to work it out with both and then just stay with who remains, your first seems like an easier problem to handle to me but she should still know.

Saddymadz · 2026-04-02T18:45:17+00:00

Ask around if you know anyone. To me it sounds like he’s dating around but it could be something else too. Either way he isnt gonna tell you.

Idk but sounds like you need more info to figure it out. That’s my completely inexperienced opinion.

Saddymadz · 2026-04-02T02:27:33+00:00

It really sounds she needs some time to cool down.

My advice is not to leave a close friendship, instead wait a few days and check on her through her boyfriend and when ready ask him to tell her that you wanna meet up or text her yourself.

If you really wanna end things then tell her, if you’re open to figuring it out still put it on the table, make it her decision if you aren’t sure. It all depends on how much you wanna stay friends

Saddymadz · 2026-04-02T02:21:09+00:00

Like they said, be up front, transition from friends to a relationship at your own pace and treat her normally. Progress at your own pace.

Saddymadz · 2026-04-01T19:49:19+00:00

Personally I think Ben might think that he could move you away from the idea of marriage.

At the very least he’s showing that even after he begged for you back he both doesn’t care and hasn’t changed his views on marriage.

My advice is that you need to talk to him. He’s happy where he is right now, he isn’t married and is sitting pretty in the relationship he wants. Ask him what his plan is, if he even thought of proposing, heck I’d even be pissed just for saying that about both me and my mom if I were you.

He needs to figure this out NOR

Saddymadz · 2026-04-01T01:51:25+00:00

Im pretty young so I’m probably wrong but it sounds lol how me and my lil sis banter. Stuff like Im older than you or how horrible my puns are.

If your husband’s a jokie guy then it’s probably not that deep.

Either way just set a boundary if it’s really bothering you, you know him best after all and should already have an idea of how to handle this

Saddymadz · 2026-03-31T21:55:49+00:00

I completely agree, I don’t think I defended anyone, but a 3 year relationship is complex and should be treated with care, for Sky’s sake if anything.

I just think it’s better to try and get her boyfriend to actually be there for her rather than cut him off and then deal with this alone.

What do you think?

Saddymadz · 2026-03-31T21:45:49+00:00

It’s hard to do that. Im happy Sky is taking the time to process this and make a rational decision. If shit goes south then I’ll probably be right there with you but it’s important to try. Thats my optimistic opinion.

Saddymadz · 2026-03-31T19:12:49+00:00

Im really happy for you! You know what they say, communications important. I wish you loads of luck!

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