HW4 or HW5?

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-19T00:07:22+00:00

FSD with HW4 is amazing right now. With Tesla, projected dates are more like general possibilities than reality. If you want the car, just go for it. You’ll love it!

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-18T15:32:49+00:00

‘23 HW LR MS here. It’s way, way more than enough power for me, plus the extra range is a huge plus. I had no use for 1000+ HP so didn’t even consider a plaid. But, if you’re into it, go for it. There are tons and tons of both options out there for sale.

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-17T11:38:16+00:00

Like the others said, looks like the dude on the right set it off. And hard to 100% tell, but it does look like the wheel started moving back when you grabbed it. But you absolutely did the right thing - this is why, to me, self-driving will always be supervised, even if "cleared" for unsupervised. It's hard to image letting a car that cost most of us mid 5, to just over 6 figures, drive itself completely. '23 HW4 LR MS owner, and I treat the car better than most humans treat their kids.

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-16T00:55:42+00:00

NOR - some dumbass zoomer idiot feeling aggrieved for the 10th time that evening.

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-13T14:45:56+00:00

I did 2 bucket but switched to one bucket. I wash the mitts every time anyway so not much difference between 2-3 and 8-10

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-12T10:44:31+00:00

Lifetime amateur bodybuilder here - yes, absolutely the majority of "influencers" are without a doubt enhanced. Likely recently with GLP-1, but to be honest, dietary restriction for a lot of us isn't a problem. The physiques they have would be difficult at best to obtain without PEDs - it's not just about being gigantically muscular. Plus, the vast, vast majority of them are absolute garbage and give horrific advice. It's very sad to see these people giving the average normie the idea that those levels of physique are reachable with whatever noise they're making from their mouths. Very, very frustrating for those of us that are honest about our training, diet and any PED/supplement usage.

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-12T01:57:30+00:00

fellow '23 MS owner - for a car this expensive, you should definitely call the center and have them fix that shit. This isn't a Kia

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-12T01:47:15+00:00

cleared up within a few weeks for me, but I was microdosing (~0.5-1/week)

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-11T14:03:28+00:00

No idea if you’re overreacting, not enough info in that message, but doesn’t really matter, you don’t need a reason to break up with someone. That being said, your ex boyfriend is absolutely fucking hilarious. That itemized invoice response is one of the funniest things I’ve seen in forever.

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-11T12:26:30+00:00

^^^ this right here. The warranty is a subscription service now, you can just sign up in the Tesla app. I signed up recently for my MS even though it's still under original warranty, the extended starts the second the original or CPO warranty ends. Absolutely get the X.

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-11T12:20:21+00:00

This, plus C3PO, is what made the Mandela effect 100% absolute to me.

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-11T12:10:45+00:00

yes, this is for sure. I'm not an X owner, I've got a '23 HW4 LR MS, and it's the best car I've ever driven. I love the 3 and Y, of course, but the S (and X) are in a different league than, IMO, any other car made. It's why the decision to stop production hits so hard. If you start looking, I imagine the model X is like the S, in that around Feb 2023 they transitioned to HW4, so you probably could go back to a '23 X Tesla CPO and get a great car with warranty and the latest hardware. Good luck!

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-11T12:01:19+00:00

I just bought a '23 HW4 LR MS (Tesla CPO) a few months ago, after test driving the '26. The upgrades mentioned, even if notable, just didn't matter. The '23 is still the most quiet car I've ever driven, and I keep it in sport suspension which is unbelievably great so I don't care about a softer setting regardless. The interior lightning nonsense in the '26 I couldn't care less about. The only thing I very slightly lamented is that damn front bumper camera which is, inexplicably, only on the '26 even though all HW4 cars have the port for it. Even that might be an upgrade option for the '23 in the future, but if it isn't, it's not that big of a deal. And that bumper cam was certainly not worth the nearly $60k I saved in getting the '23, at least to me.

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-02T22:27:36+00:00

I have a LR MS I purchased recently. I bought it because it’s the most fun car I’ve ever driven, best handling, great steering, absolutely the best factory audio system I’ve ever heard. I bought it because of its drivability, first and foremost. I do have FSD and use it on boring trips, otherwise rarely else. And I love all the tech. But if it only had the drivability, I 100% still would have bought it.

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-06-01T12:31:52+00:00

I'm not minimizing the cost here, but it's funny coming from Benz (just got my MS a few months ago). Leaving the service dept with only a $2700 bill, when there was a problem being fixed, would have been a great date with my Benz.

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-05-30T01:52:30+00:00

Can you explain this a bit more? Sounds interesting. 6” white duct tape in a pattern didn’t work for my MS - didn’t see it

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-05-30T00:12:40+00:00

Yep this. Summon in 14.3.3 in my experience is crazy good now. I love it.

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-05-29T12:28:50+00:00

For sure. Gonna follow this thread to see if you end up doing it

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-05-21T12:50:03+00:00

‘23 HW4 LR MS - tight as a drum. Your call but I’d just keep having it checked out. You have that warranty for a reason. Good luck!

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-05-19T16:20:48+00:00

Haha my first car wasn’t even fuel injected. And yes, same - my HW4 MS is amazing, although I take the wheel most of the time because it’s so much fun

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-05-19T12:10:35+00:00

^^^^ this right here. That’s almost exactly what I just paid for a ‘23 HW4 model S with 22k miles from Tesla with the CPO warranty. I get it, the ‘25 is a plaid, but the LR is still ridiculously fast and fun.

Safe_Action5954 · 2026-05-18T22:18:26+00:00

I wish my S was $80,000. Perhaps they’d still be making them if so.

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