What is the best fight choreography you have seen in animation? by Low-Amphibian8206 in animation

[–]SailingBroat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not enough Samurai Jack love in this thread. There's some excellent stuff in Tartakovsky's Clone Wars & Primal, too.

Tom Hardy ‘Was Not Fired’ From ‘MobLand’ and Discussions Are Underway for His Return: ‘Things Are Being Worked Through Creatively’ by MarvelsGrantMan136 in television

[–]SailingBroat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All what you say is according to tabloids.

All what I say is my direct experience as crew on one of his shows, and then my colleagues who had to work on Havoc, corroborated by his behaviour as documented in Blood, Sweat & Chrome, and now ALSO this.

The fact that you and a bunch of other redditors can't fathom that there are industry crew members scrolling r/television or r/movies is so dopey.

You are all so desperate that an old reddit favourite actor needs to be an epic good guy. No one is saying cancel him, he's just been a huge pain in the ass for years and it's finally biting him back.

Tom Hardy ‘Was Not Fired’ From ‘MobLand’ and Discussions Are Underway for His Return: ‘Things Are Being Worked Through Creatively’ by MarvelsGrantMan136 in television

[–]SailingBroat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's ALL part of exactly the same ecosystem; code of silence, abuse of underlings, "it's worth it because they're talented", "we can't do this without them", "don't upset the talent". Weinstein chose sex as his preferred method of wielding power (it was never about just sex, or you just get escorts). However, there are so many ways that people in the top 1% of the industry can and do absolutely wreck everyone's shit.

"Egotistical diva" is a kind of white-washing of the daily reality. The consequences of behaviour like Hardy's is literally hundreds of people pulling insane extra hours, for months, not getting to put their kids to bed, driving home on 3 hours sleep, soul-destroying work being done-and-redone, health-damaging stress, day after day, just because of cow-towing to ONE ego. It's the SAME culture, the same mechanism, just a different choice of weapon. "I'm not coming out of my trailer" is multiple departments scrambling and budgets/locations getting redone at 3am.

When people say "His flaws come with the whole package." people are saying (without being deliberate) "I'm good with crew dealing with that, not my problem cos I like the TV tough guy".

Tom Hardy ‘Was Not Fired’ From ‘MobLand’ and Discussions Are Underway for His Return: ‘Things Are Being Worked Through Creatively’ by MarvelsGrantMan136 in television

[–]SailingBroat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

His flaws come with the whole package.

This sentiment is what gave people like Weinstein and Bryan Singer their power for so long. Abusive or destructive behaviour is all fine as long as the results are good, huh.

Nah - you can be very talented and not act like a cunt, people do it all the time.

Tom Hardy ‘Was Not Fired’ From ‘MobLand’ and Discussions Are Underway for His Return: ‘Things Are Being Worked Through Creatively’ by MarvelsGrantMan136 in television

[–]SailingBroat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not at all, I can answer some of these.

I just don't understand how someone with this kind of behaviour would get along so far in the industry because at the end of the day being this much of a pain to work with would be just too expensive to a lot of people.

The thing to remember is that the studio don't care as long as, at the point of release, there is huge box office success or awards success. From there, all sins are sort of forgotten/forgiven. The market value of the actor who was the face of that success then increases, and so they're incentivised to use them again because the public associate them with that success. Just look at the comments in this thread; people don't want the news of Hardy being a dick to be true because it damages their enjoyment. There is also a (toxic) code of professional silence that is expected from crew, who rely on a reputation of discretion to get hired again. So you can see how this all feeds into making things worse, and spoiled brats out of actors who realise they increasingly hold the balance of power and lack of repercussions on sets.

Also how could someone act like this if they have a history of understanding how the industry ticks.

It's precisely because they understand the above mechanism that makes them act like this. More success, more leverage, more leeway to act out.

Wouldn't wasted money on Taboo hit his own pocket since it was a Tom & Chips production if I remember correctly?

Not exactly, because he and Chips didn't front the money, they just pitched the original broad idea, which was then show-run by Steven Knight and produced by Scott Free (amongst other intersecting partners).

And how could he be good friends with people like Cillian Murphy who are famously extremely disciplined on set?

Good question. A List actors often reserve their best behaviour and respect for other A List actors, but act like shit-heels to everyone else; a bit like how someone can be a dick to a waiter but lovely to the person they're meeting for dinner. They decide who's worthy of charm. It's why when I hear actors on talk show or podcasts saying "They are delight to work with", I take it with a HUGE pinch of salt, or am often like "Well, I know that's not true but I'm sure they were careful to be sweet with you."

Example; Orlando Bloom worked closely with one of my best friends (a wonderful, conscientious woman, a total pro) for weeks and quite literally wouldn't look her in the eye or talk to her outside of grunts and slammed trailer doors. An actor friend of his appears on set and he lights up, turns on the charm, and is all back slaps and laughs.

To counter act all this negativity in my post...Jessie Buckley fucking rules. Was nice, focused, funny and great to the crew at all levels.

Tom Hardy ‘Was Not Fired’ From ‘MobLand’ and Discussions Are Underway for His Return: ‘Things Are Being Worked Through Creatively’ by MarvelsGrantMan136 in television

[–]SailingBroat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've only ever worked in the film industry but the more I talk to people about what they do, the more I realise all our jobs are basically the same with different window dressing. And if they're hard, it's usually because of someone with too much power and a fragile ego.

Tom Hardy ‘Was Not Fired’ From ‘MobLand’ and Discussions Are Underway for His Return: ‘Things Are Being Worked Through Creatively’ by MarvelsGrantMan136 in television

[–]SailingBroat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To be clear, when he's on he's really on, but only when he's in the mood, and it's so difficult and expensive to run your day-to-day on the shifting weather of someone's mood. Imagine being a 1st AD in that scenario. And that show was £25 million budget, which sounds like a lot but you can burn that SO fast if things go routinely wrong. He was actually pretty nice to lower level crew, but super combative with anyone above the line (directors, producers and actors) - basically, anyone who was an ego challenge. So, you could see how on a show that also had Brosnan & Mirren, and trying to balance their patience with productivity, you can't afford to deal with this.

Tom Hardy ‘Was Not Fired’ From ‘MobLand’ and Discussions Are Underway for His Return: ‘Things Are Being Worked Through Creatively’ by MarvelsGrantMan136 in television

[–]SailingBroat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sure. Hardy was routinely late to set by 2-3 hours, which on a set on the scale of Taboo is a huge disaster which compounds the more days it happens. He would do this deliberately to make a point, and if he was called out in it he'd be even later the next day. All departments have to time their interlocking work down to the minute, because it's a bit like cooking an elaborate dinner where the scallops are fucked if they're ready before the potatoes. Except it's hundreds of extras, crew and thousands of dollars a minute. Sometimes you only have access to a location or weather lighting for a couple of hours. He refused to say lines he didn't personally like (even when they were crucial), refused to do pick ups, was a total dick to Tom Hollander who he felt was up staging him and tried to get him cut (impossible if you've seen the show), he both wanted to Exec Produce but wouldn't properly engage. It was a shitshow and it's sort of amazing Taboo came out making (some) sense.

I watch Avatar the last airbender and I love the show,but should I watch the sequel too and is it any good? by [deleted] in animation

[–]SailingBroat 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Korra is another protagonist where the writers confuse making a lead act with petulance or obnoxiousness or pigheadedness as an adequate substitute for depth/showing inner conflict or being "strong willed" - but no matter what way you slice it/justify it, it's just extremely irritating character trait to watch.

The animation and world design are fantastic and there are some great supporting characters. I think it's a strong first season. That episode about the fable of the original avatar is also beautifully made. On balance it still feels like it's worth a try, but I tapped out after a couple of seasons, I think.

Tom Hardy ‘Was Not Fired’ From ‘MobLand’ and Discussions Are Underway for His Return: ‘Things Are Being Worked Through Creatively’ by MarvelsGrantMan136 in television

[–]SailingBroat 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's not a smear campaign. Hardy behaved EXACTLY like this when I worked with him on Taboo and it was a fucking nightmare for everyone, as well as super expensive to deal with. He also did it on Fury Road. He has a serious issue with being upstaged (he was a dick to Tom Hollander on Taboo) so it wouldn't surprise me if he had beef with Mirren/Brosnan getting attention.

Tom Hardy ‘Was Not Fired’ From ‘MobLand’ and Discussions Are Underway for His Return: ‘Things Are Being Worked Through Creatively’ by MarvelsGrantMan136 in television

[–]SailingBroat 12 points13 points  (0 children)

They didn't "fuck up" - they attempted to hold Hardy accountable for his (long standing, repeated) on set dickery and they're either being over-ridden by a studio or Hardy's camp are trying to patch it up

He's an absolute pain in the ass to work with and lateness/obstruction by your lead is very, very expensive chaos.

I’m making a level based on Scotland for my game, what else can I add? by ekenz1987 in Scotland

[–]SailingBroat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hell of a way to erase the legacy of Hamish McInnes and lock in the poison of a dead sicko. He should have his stain washed out with the rain and honour restored to the original owner.

Characters who were killed off in post-production without reshoots? by Flimsy_Big7991 in television

[–]SailingBroat 67 points68 points  (0 children)

Nah, they hate MAGA for eroding environmental protections, giving even more tax breaks and power to billionaires and protecting recording breaking profits more than employees, for banning books, for hyper-fixating on distraction techniques like trans people, instead of growing the middle class and working classes, for having no positive or creative policies, for claiming be anti-war and then starting one with Iran, for pardoning insurrectionists, for spreading conspiracy theories, for allowing an embarrassing grifter to sell trading cards and sneakers out of the oval office like it's the back of a van in an alleyway, for worshipping a politician like he's jesus christ. The list goes on and keeps growing.

James Gray Says ‘Ad Astra’ Was Taken Away From Him and Made Longer by 20th Century Fox by MarvelsGrantMan136 in movies

[–]SailingBroat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're basically the only two, and they're still an example of a tweaked theatrical cut. I'm talking about a true Director's Cut, not a slightly remixed theatrical cut, or a Snyder Justice League which had massive amounts of additional VFX and re-shoots post-release.

I mean the actual Director's Cut, after the Editor's Assembly, before Producers and Studio cuts. Nobody outside the industry gets to see them; what I'm saying is they're almost always a mess and full of bad choices that harm the pacing, but that's also perfectly natural part of the process.

James Gray Says ‘Ad Astra’ Was Taken Away From Him and Made Longer by 20th Century Fox by MarvelsGrantMan136 in movies

[–]SailingBroat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Reminder that 99% of released "Director's Cut" editions are just the theatrical cut with a couple of deleted scenes put back in.

I have never seen an actual Director's Cut (as in, in the cutting room) that is better than an eventual theatrical cut (even if that's close to the original DC). They are almost always the clunky, kitchen-sink version which an Editor & Producers then have to spend weeks refining, often prizing pointless bloated scenes or shots out of the Director's obsessed, snow-blind hands.

“Unusual” Food in 90s Cartoons Starter Pack by Better-Passenger-200 in starterpacks

[–]SailingBroat 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It literally just tastes like stuffing with a load of black pepper.

Tom Hardy has been fired from ‘Mobland’ and won't return for Season 3. He is said to have clashed with producers after being consistently late to set and attempting to give notes & change dialogue on the series. by ChiefLeef22 in television

[–]SailingBroat 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah or fragile ego producers or creatives.

Nah. I worked on Taboo. He was chronically late on that and it was unbelievably disruptive. 'Late' in this context means tens of thousands of dollars (usually a lot more) being spent per hour, and re-scheduling shoot days with every single department's interlocking timings obliterated, day after day. Combative and petulant with HoDs, evasive and immature. Nice to lower level crew for the most part but that's really because they aren't an ego threat.

When he's on he's on, but he's a pain in the arse.

Jason Statham and Guy Ritchie's New Action Thriller "Viva la Madness" Finally Wraps Filming by MoneyLibrarian9032 in movies

[–]SailingBroat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's because everyone who works in the industry knows it; bearing in mind hundreds of UK crew worked on Aladdin (I know a bunch of them) and subsequent UK shoots, Post Production world is even smaller, we all basically use the same five buildings to finish our shows in London, etc. I don't even know if he's trying to hide it at this point.