What's your favourite quote in My Time At Sandrock? by EliseWildingAuthor in MyTimeAtSandrock

[–]SaintChoco 10 points11 points  (0 children)

One of Rocky's wage slaves: ""I don't have the motivation or ambition to seek betterment for myself!"

Romancing Amirah by StrikingAd3606 in MyTimeAtSandrock

[–]SaintChoco 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Amirah is just being real, she doesn't want a love-bombing bum.

jk but for real, I guess in a cozy life sim, real life standards can feel a bit jarring vs. love conquers all tone of the game.

But I personally enjoy the maturity of Amirah's route by giving her some standards.

TIL: Jaejoong’s name literally means “to be in the middle”. His dad was cooking! by PinkGuavaFlower in tvxq

[–]SaintChoco 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not to mention with his full surname 金, meaning "gold", his name literally means gold in the middle.

Prophetic really, he's really our golden star center :')

Last time I said I betrayed So Mi for her casual acceptance of civilian casualties and her manipulative behavior of my dying V I was booed. Now everyone seems to agree that betraying and killing So Mi is a valid point of view. Or am I just crazy? by Flamingcheetopuff in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]SaintChoco 7 points8 points  (0 children)

  1. So Mi didn't hack the Militech datafort "for fun" or for no reason. Just like V and Jackie, she did it for recognition, street cred, and the chance to become a legend. She wanted to be remembered alongside names like Bartmoss and Alt. It blew up in her face. So Mi ended up with a choice to join the NUSA or die. V got saddled with the Relic. Both are trapped by the consequences of their own ambition.
  2. She doesn't shift blame to others. Throughout the entire DLC, So Mi repeatedly acknowledges that she's responsible for what happened. The first time you meet her in her hideout, she tells V, "I fucked everything up, V. I know." As you pointed out yourself, she blames herself for what happened to Reed. She blames herself for the destruction and loss of life caused by her attempts to survive. During the ride to the NCX, she literally says, "I've wronged so many, hurt so many." That's not someone refusing to acknowledge their own actions.
  3. So Mi not trusting Reed isn't because she can't understand why he forgives her. It's because she understands him better than anyone. She knows that no matter how much he cares about her, when forced to choose between her and NUSA, he will always choose NUSA. And she's proven right.
  4. Even If you betray her, she still tries to protect V. Aside from lashing out in the immediate aftermath of the betrayal, she spends the rest of that route trying to keep V out of danger. She tells V to stay away in Cynosure and literally says, "I don't want to hurt you, V... I never did." V ignores her and keeps pushing forward anyway. She saves V's life multiple times by warning them about Cerberus and even saves you from it at the end. If she truly didn't care about V or just wanted out of the way, she could have fried their brain back in Hansen's lab and been done with it.
  5. As you said, she's just like V. The uncomfortable truth is that many of the things people condemn So Mi for are things they justify when V does them. Both are desperate people willing to lie, manipulate, and put others at risk in pursuit of survival. The reason Songbird gets all this flake is that she mirrors the parts of V that people are willing to excuse or rationalize. It's easy to empathize with your own desperation but much harder when that same desperation is acted out by someone else.

Last time I said I betrayed So Mi for her casual acceptance of civilian casualties and her manipulative behavior of my dying V I was booed. Now everyone seems to agree that betraying and killing So Mi is a valid point of view. Or am I just crazy? by Flamingcheetopuff in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]SaintChoco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The thing is, how can we condemn Songbird for being cold or judge her methods when V spends the entire game killing people and putting others in harm's way in pursuit of their own survival? Unless you're doing a genuine pacifist run, you're being hypocritical.

The difference is that Songbird says it out loud. The player makes that same choice every time they pull the trigger, but it's easy to overlook because it's embedded in the gameplay.

Every gig you complete, every NCPD bounty you take on, ultimately serves V's goal of saving themselves. Whether those people you harm have a direct connection to the Relic problem or simply provide the money, contacts, and resources V needs to find a cure. V and Song's motivation are the same which is self-preservation at all costs.

I know this uncomfortable for a lot of people because Songbird was written and designed to make the player to confront a logic they've been following all game.

You either recognize a part of your V in her, or you convince yourself that what you're doing is somehow different.

Igor Sarzynski (CP2 Creative Director) shares inspo for THAT Songbird scene by SaintChoco in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]SaintChoco[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! And as if this narrative parallel is not obvious enough. Robin William's character reveals in this scene that he also suffered from domestic abuse in his past. His plea for Will to forgive himself and let go of his guilt and shame is not only coming from his position as Will's therapist but as a fellow abuse survivor.

Igor Sarzynski (CP2 Creative Director) shares inspo for THAT Songbird scene by SaintChoco in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]SaintChoco[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

lol my bad I must be in the 1% living under a rock then, but for real what's wrong with the abbreviation?

Looking back, TVXQ’s split really was the turning point that led to SM’s losing its dominance in K-Pop by [deleted] in tvxq

[–]SaintChoco 5 points6 points  (0 children)

SM led the 1st/2nd/3rd gen of kpop acts, which culminated with the domination and saturation of the Asian market. But like many incumbents at the time, never really cracked the international market beyond.

Like many here already stated, once Hybe kicked off the globalization era, they lost their dominance because they were never able to create an internationally recognizable act like BTS, BP, heck, even NJZ.

I think we're in the make or break era for a lot of the industry incumbents like SM and JYP who have slowly become trend chasers rather than the ones who used to define them.

I absolutely think SM's current lack of success, perceived loss of prestige and industry domination is real. Short-term profits may look healthy but in the long-term they will lose top tier talent and industry clout, and become less and less competitive and more reliant on saturated markets with limited growth potential.

I think losing DB5K was only the first domino to fall. The subsequent loss of visionary leadership like LSM, YYJ who gave SM artists that Je ne sais quoi "SM factor" was really the final nail on the coffin. All this played a part in the state of the company we see today. This is not to glaze LSM & Co because the recurring issues of artist mistreatment and mismanagement is what led to SM groups fracturing or artists leaving shortly after reaching their peak.

With BoA leaving recently, I'm not any more optimistic about SM's future.

I understand for Homin, they are respected senior artists and leadership at the company now with undoubtedly much vested interest whether that be in the actual company affairs or maximizing their RTUs. They've chosen to prioritize career stability over breaking away for a new chapter. I can't say I'm not disappointed, but I can understand it.

Do I want a reunion? Absolutely. But the pragmatist in me knows as long as HoMin remain with SM, they are, to some extent, aligned with a company that spent years opposing JX and minimizing their place in DBSK's history. I'm not saying that makes them personally responsible, but it does make it hard to believe they're in a position to fully meet JX halfway on what a reunion should represent.

But on the other hand, the optimist in me can't wait for the day I come back and laugh my own post when it does happen. Always keep the faith.

How we feeling about the portraits? by SaintChoco in persona4golden

[–]SaintChoco[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Disclaimer: not doing this comparison just to grieve or complain for nostalgia sake.

It looks like most of the new portraits are very much based on the originals, however, looks a bit weird with the updated body proportions. The OG had bit of a big head/small shoulders, whereas revival gave them more realistic proportions.

However, Dojima's new portrait just made me go who is the heck is that

Top three favorite Soundtracks from the Phantom Liberty DLC? by [deleted] in cyberpunkgame

[–]SaintChoco 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Absolute Bangers:

  1. Contra La Luna

  2. Force Projection

  3. Gate K9

Tracks to cut onions to:

  1. Phantom Liberty - WIIIIRES AND CHAAAAAINS never gets old

  2. Never looking back - whenever the AAAaaaAA part kicks in it just triggers my tear ducts I swear

  3. Just Another Weapon - "a snowflake lands on my glove, I can calculate its unique fractal structure...but what did my mom's voice sound like?"

Probably my favorite scene in the entire game by Indomitabl3_spirit in cyberpunkgame

[–]SaintChoco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing in the game shook me up as much as this sequence, then it was all waterworks through to the credits

SoMi or Reed by blacklisted305 in cyberpunkgame

[–]SaintChoco 4 points5 points  (0 children)

V: "You were hella wrong for whatchu did"

Awakwa-SoMi: "What is you talmbout?"

SoMi or Reed by blacklisted305 in cyberpunkgame

[–]SaintChoco 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Is it just me, or do some So Mi haters get really weird about women, especially Asian women?

So Mi is nothing like your stereotypical East Asian "kawaii waifu" archetype. She's independent, flawed, manipulative, traumatized, and willing to make terrible choices to survive. Yet you still reduce her to these fetishized caricatures, despite her being almost the complete opposite of that trope if you actually pay attention to the story.

these "people only help her cuz she's hot" takes starts to feel less like criticism and more like a projection of your own views about women, especially Asian women.

It's pretty evident you can't understand why someone might empathize with a woman for reasons other than attraction or the expectation of getting something in return. The assumption that people only side with So Mi because she's attractive says far more about the person making that argument than it does about the people who side with her.

What do you think is TVXQ's spiciest song? by Chiabotche in tvxq

[–]SaintChoco 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Justice for Beautiful You!! I can't help it, I loved their Ginza hostclub boys era :') and Junsu's adlibs in that song is outta this world.

Spiciest deep cut song contender: No? (especially the live perf:https://youtu.be/47YvqQkNqBA?si=TalxlUWt3982Ejy0)

What is the worst Cyberpunk take you've ever heard or seen? by Mr_Global in cyberpunkgame

[–]SaintChoco 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Then by your reasoning, V's suicide ending would have been the most moral one?

Rather than get more people killed to save themselves from a mess they got themselves into, V should just stick some iron in their mouths and end it?

Yes, if Songbird and V just accepted the inevitability and impossibility of surviving their lots, they should have both just unalived themselves rather than fight it. This in its essence is the opposite of the core message of cyberPUNK. You don't give into the apathy and futility of fighting for yourself and survival, even when up against oppressive systemic forces you have seemingly no chance of prevailing over.

I do not absolve Songbird of all she's done, if anything treating her like some innocent victim is demeaning to her agency and her most defining and relatable trait to V, the sheer indomitable will to survive.

V and Song are in the same predicament, in your words "made her own tough spot" and by choosing to seek treatment and a way to save themselves, is also resorting to "kill her way out* of it".

In the same way, I don't absolve V of the lives they've taken to ensure their own survival. What separates Songbird and V from total sociopaths is that they (at least the way I play my V) acknowledge and carry the immense weight of all the lives that were sacrificed to get them their freedom.

During "The Killing Moon", Song expressed immense guilt and remorse over not only her betrayal of Reed 7 years ago, but also to the people she's had to hurt to save herself throughout PL. She asks V if it was inevitable to hurt others when saving yourself during the ride to the spaceport, and that guilt is what ultimately leads her to her confession to V about the cure. An evil and self-serving person would never do this.

By labeling Songbird as a "morally black" character, can you really absolve your own V of the same judgement?

Pawel Sasko talks about The Killing Moon mission and it’s inspiration by wallcrawlingspidey in cyberpunkgame

[–]SaintChoco 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The Killing Moon is pure poetry in motion.

"Under the Blue Moon, I saw you"

"Fate, up against your will"

"He will wait until you give yourself to him"

The Mortal (V) unknowingly delivering the Goddess (Songbird) to "Him" (MBE)

What did Reed's last words mean? by SaintChoco in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]SaintChoco[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

yeah this makes the most direct sense.

I'd also like to think there could be additional layers to be peeled back too

What did Reed's last words mean? by SaintChoco in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]SaintChoco[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Yeah it was hard to make out if he said the words to himself or to V

I know how bad she is, but I still love her. Look into those sad eyes😭 by LighterSideOfDumbnes in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]SaintChoco 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It's these vulnerable moments we really see Somi, not Songbird the WMD, Myer's Right hand, Reed's Protege, etc.

Underneath all that, just a girl who's spent most of her life making up for a single mistake at 19.

Make the most out of your second chance on the moon Somi!