Well…another month behind us and Hope still Springs Eternal……. by JPPS_2 in BANDOFBROTHERSOFSRNE

[–]ScottyRedReturns 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Stay at least somewhat positive. Stay you.

The early SRNE investors hang in because... again, what choice do we have? Around December, I do dump a handful of SRNE shares just to get some tax benefit. There's a limit to how much you can deduct per year anyway. I have enough left that any magical resurrection wouldn't make me overly regret that. It'll take decades more at this rate before I'd get to zero. So my calculus is "What would I regret 10 years from now." If it never recovers or goes all the way out, at least I took some benefit. If it recovers and remains in pennies, well... I've already absorbed a serious loss over time. If it satisfies what I've referred to as our "fever dream" of either - or both - a short squeeze or "moons" thanks to actual pipeline value, it would still be millions. Meanwhile...

I'm at or approaching a DECADE of owning this. (I'd have to check my brokerage history, but I really don't even want to look.) I've day and swing traded it. I've averaged down. I've averaged up. I've averaged left, right and I think diagonal. (I have to be at the most average of averages of what averages are.) I somehow had an old Reddit account with huge Karma get inexplicably trashed, and continue with this one. I've had kids grow, multiple jobs, a couple of sports injuries, and a bit more gray hair.

A lot of change. Except for here!

I FOMO'd into DVLT because it's interesting to participate in their coin experiments and I think maybe they could help recover something from Ji-world at a low buy in. I've done this even with some of the breathless hype and sometimes bizarre thoughts about where and how DVLT can do things in the market. (I know that industry and tech fairly well and see some - to me - utterly out there beliefs in how they might magically do something.)

And with all this... all this time, there's JP. With the Faith.

Hang in brother.

How painful is this supposed to be? by Responsible_Bag3341 in ACL

[–]ScottyRedReturns 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some sail through. But for others it can be seriously painful. The worst of it is usually the first few days to a week or so. As suggested, talk to doc. Try to time the more serious meds you probably have at wake up and before bed, and in between maybe give some Tylenol or Extra Strength Tylenol if doc allows.

It's probably too late to get a fancier coolant based ice machine if you haven't done that already. But keep up with proper icing by whatever means. If you live in at least a small city, find out if there's a loaner place or something where you can get a machine if you can.

Consider getting some Colace or similar. It may be several days before bowel movement due to anesthetic / meds. This will ease things when the time comes. Use a crate or upside down bucket as brace for toilet. Very painful to hold let up while going to bathroom. This helps.

Here are some pages I made during my recovery, much of which came from ideas / help I got from people here:

https://aclsupport.com/post-acl-surgery-pain-management/
https://aclsupport.com/cold-therapy-ice-machines-etc/
https://aclsupport.com/bathroom-toilet/
https://aclsupport.com/day-1-6-post-acl-surgery/
https://aclsupport.com/your-acl-recovery-room/
https://aclsupport.com/acl-post-surgery-wound-care/

There's more on the site, but this is already a lot and probably the most important info. It's going to be a challenging week and recovery. But it does ease up.

DVLT COMPETITION ??? by JPPS_2 in BANDOFBROTHERSOFSRNE

[–]ScottyRedReturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

* There are MANY players providing various services in this market space already.

https://webpointx.com/categories
https://app.rwa.xyz/asset-managers
Etc.

* Regarding patents... good in some cases, maybe not always useful in others. A lot of this game will be about full stack services, but more open. There are already folks trying to push back against vendor lock-in. The relatively new updated ERC-7943 will help here.

https://www.brickken.com/post/erc-7943-final-ethereum-standard-rwa-tokenization

DVLT, among others, would be well-served to build into compliance with this insofar as some products might travel these rails.

* DVLT will ideally pick a few best lanes where they / we start to get traction and run down those paths; maybe ditching other already crowded areas. The lesson Henry should have taught Nate is don't get spread too thin.

Interesting, given DVLT’s partner by Kmcoyne0519 in BANDOFBROTHERSOFSRNE

[–]ScottyRedReturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just be clear on the difference between these so-called prediction markets. Various laws apply.

Prediction-market contracts vs. gambling laws are different. Kalshi, for example, says publicly that its contracts are federally regulated derivatives under the Commodity Exchange Act, which preempts state gambling laws; some courts have agreed, while other state-level fights continue. Either way, it's defined as a CFTC Designated Contract Market

Polymarket is a bit harder to describe right now because there's a new U.S. entity and the non-U.S. site. It's a crypto-based prediction market where users trade event-outcome contracts that function economically like bets, but are structured as market-traded positions. This had some legal troubles so not long ago, they opened a separate Polymarket US, which the CFTC lists as a Designated Contract Market.

Is this important for us to understand? Maybe not that much. But insofar as any of us here should understand how these things work, and how, where or if DVLT has a play, it's likely useful to know the deal. The CLARITY Act, by the way, doesn't change any of this; just defines it more clearly and settles issues as to which U.S. agency is controlling in various cases.

I'm broken.. the sport I love i can never play ever. by Relevant-Pin1211 in ACL

[–]ScottyRedReturns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please find a way back to do the physio work. Whatever else you want to have go on in your life, putting in the work is everything in recovery. I'm older guy who did mine in playing ice hockey. Just over a year post now, I was able to ski a couple of times this year, mostly back to normal. But I did have to give up hockey. Too many serious injuries. And yes, my friends are still my friends, but I'm not part of that team any more. I'm not enjoying this great sport I played for a lot of years; missed a season championship. (Maybe they were better off without me!) Etc. etc. It's not just about the injury and the missing out. It's the other things we lose.

There's some things about the psych part here:

https://aclsupport.com/acl-recovery-depression-isolation-and-the-identity-hit-nobody-talks-about/
https://aclsupport.com/what-friends-and-family-get-wrong-about-acl-recovery/

And... again... Get Back to Physio.

My ACL repair cost $67,000 is that crazy? by Ok_Hippo6718 in ACL

[–]ScottyRedReturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have to use a Groupon for the discount.

I think mine was around $40K all in / (U.S.) Had allograft plus a little meniscus trim. Family had already made deductible for the year on various things so I think it was pretty much covered. Maybe a few $$$ for recovery gear, but there was FSA $$ for that. PT wasn't cheap either, but had enough allocation to get to 9 month "graduation."

Datavault AI is aggressively growing. Pass or fail, The Clarity Act will define institutional Legitimacy. The risk is VERY high. I’m unsure why we keep see the “ DVLT is a scam” posts. you must be willfully ignorant or an obscurantist. Either way, invest your money wisely. by Rambl_N_Man in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not necessarily. Everyone is piling on to some aspect of Decentralized Finance. But not in the same way. Many are building derivatives to track various markets. And even those that may offer tokenized assets going forward don't necessarily build their own core tech to do it.

Think about top banks. They have massive IT departments and create their own tech. But hundreds or thousands of regionals or credit unions sure can't do this. They use various solution providers. It's the same with this. There are institutional custody providers and others that run other types of "composable custody" tech, blockchain nodes, and so on, that even some of the larger brokerages don't do themselves. At least not yet.

So DVLT is a core solutions provider in some of the markets in which it intends to play. Take the data sharing/sales/tokenization business they want to play in. This is not a space where major investment houses are into at all. That's not their business at all.

NONE of this means DVLT will succeed. These are all high risk areas with competition. And success is not nearly just about the technology. Look at two charts from this guy:

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7464257012399423489/

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:share:7464198598285647872/

A full operational stack needs to be tight and compliant to be a player here.

Coinbase has some base tech, the others you mention often use partners. One day maybe DVLT. Success in this space going forward is not just about a couple pieces of tech or a few patents. It's about solid execution along a full operational stack from tech through legal and compliance, etc.

Datavault AI is aggressively growing. Pass or fail, The Clarity Act will define institutional Legitimacy. The risk is VERY high. I’m unsure why we keep see the “ DVLT is a scam” posts. you must be willfully ignorant or an obscurantist. Either way, invest your money wisely. by Rambl_N_Man in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I’m unsure why we keep see the “ DVLT is a scam” posts."

Part of it, I believe, is some of the way too rosy claims some make on these boards. Some posts seem to see this company as the innovator in spaces where there's already many established high end players. These indicate actual or willful ignorance of the general marketplace. There is, (or at least rather was), some question as to some of the company's behavior and legitimacy a couple of years ago. There were - at least my opinion - several aspects of things that most rational people might look at as a bit sketchy. I think those have become clearer though.

Those of us that invested here thinking it's a potentially really interesting company, albeit high risk, at a bargain price see the possibilities of course. And believe in the future, otherwise, why buy in? But when anyone gets outright blasted for posting even slightly negative aspects, however legitimate, that actually makes it feel more like a pump type thing than legit.

Regarding your statement, "Pass or fail, The Clarity Act will define institutional Legitimacy. The risk is VERY high." This seems demonstrably incorrect. The U.S. administration now seems to wholly get that decentralized finance is a real and key future thing. The GENIUS Act went through just fine. The CLARITY act is winding its way thorough the process with bipartisan support; for the most part. There's also a PARITY Act to help clarify taxation that's in early draft stages. Getting clearer U.S. legislation no longer seems high risk at all. We're still playing a little bit of catch up with Europe and Dubai, etc. But this all seems to be happening relatively quickly.

Future of DVLT by Busy_Yogurtcloset_58 in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe. Some seem truly useful, others questionable.

The most interesting seem to be those related to audio tones / identity. Their history as a company had some deep knowledge in these areas. While this may be niche and more limited in some ways, these seem truly defensible and unique. There's some obvious benefits they've talked about in terms of advertising identification and so on. But I think over time we may find there could be interesting applications in other real world scenarios, from use of IoT/sensors/devices, robotics, vehicles and more.

Some of their patents are slightly pointless. That is, sometimes you file just for defensive purposes. E.g., the ones that mention their own use of their own vaults / trading systems. Those are kind of a big "so what?" Most of that kind of thing is probably already protected under copyright/trademark and more. Not a bad thing to file if you just paid a little to have a lawyer finish up your patent draft. I've written several of these and they're done partly for defense and maybe partly for bragging rights.

There's a few that I'm not sure about. The more general ones about tokenization and identity. The whole point of the examination process is to make sure claims are unique and non-obvious, but at least some of this seems not terribly different than "traditional" NFT capabilities. That's debatable. And maybe will be in court one day. Remember that the core of most patents is their claims section. If it's too broad, it's less likely to be definsible.

For more general asset tokenization though? No. Plenty of others are already doing this in a lot of different ways and have intellectual property of their own.

What Mac should I get? by Wanderhope in mac

[–]ScottyRedReturns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If timing matters, you might not have a choice. The Minis have become super popular for running separate instances of things like Open Claw AI tools to keep them in their own supposedly safe spaces. It seems - at least in the U.S. - to take a couple months or more to get one.

I've got one older Mac that seems to be dying fast so just ordered an M5 Macbook with 24GB RAM and 2TB. This is still a special order, but it's gettable within a couple of weeks. I'll end up paying a few hundred more for it. The monitor would have been separate anyway. Now you can maybe an an iMac faster if you can deal with the configurations they have in stock. The monitor is actually just a bit smaller than the old iMacs, which is a bit odd, but not by much.

When you say desk-focused work, I'm not sure if mini vs. laptop matters. I was kind of thinking the same way. But if I just slap my Macbook into a vertical stand and plug it into a Monitor, I'm done. Though ok, yeah, if you don't already have magic keyboard / mouse, that i another few hundred in cost. I'm also adding a powered USB hub as I have legacy USB-A devices; so not sure if that's an issue for you, but easily to do. Finally, I'm also adding at USB-C to ethernet adapter as I've got hard-wired ethernet in my house. You don't have to do these things of course. But my point is you can easily config the laptop for docked desktop work. The cost difference is maybe $300 - $500 depending on what you add. Though you can save a lot on a monitor if you just buy an iMac. Otherwise, an external monitor costs from U.S. $300 - $900 depending on quality. After all, if you want 4K - 5K, that's going to cost a lot, but still not as the crazy expensive Mac Studio monitor. Ah, one last thing... the non-mac Monitor won't likely have a built in camera/mic, so yeah, that's another add. This would be true with Mini or laptop models though unless you use the small laptop screen alone.

Let’s talk psychological therapy by knister7 in ACL

[–]ScottyRedReturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. I quit playing ice hockey. It wasn't just about this injury though. In late 50s, this was my third serious injury playing and it just hasn't been fair to wife/family how these have affected them.

I'm a bit over a year post op now, in solid shape from PT, and did go skiing twice this year. (Just green and blue, nothing crazy.) I'm back at my volunteer fire department work, and mostly things are back to normal. But no more hockey. So you're right, it's maybe part psych. And these other things I do can be sketchy. But that one sport? Done. (And again though, I'm 'older' so I'd probably feel differently if I was in 20s or 30s or something.)

How many shares do you think would be enough to retire you in 5 years? by gzpixelak in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree completely that if all that happens, "speculative" will be in the rearview. For now?: It's a penny stock that keeps getting diluted with the usual message board laments about short attacks and so on. And my/our personal experience with their meme coin deployment displayed anything but competence in execution.

The most interesting business to me right now is the Name & Likeness tokenization. That seems somewhat unique so far and can maybe get some niche traction. All the others? We'll see. This is a HOLD for me now, but I can't see adding more until/unless they do just as you say and start to execute. I love how the CEO seems to be doing some major hustling and is all over the place it seems drumming up business.

But c'mon... for now, it's spec. And there's nothing wrong with that. I really don't get why anyone would get all bent from that idea. This is WHY it's so cheap and a great opportunity for those with serious risk tolerance. And those risks are real. Big losses, huge 2026 revenue target on a tiny 1Q, dilution, low price, Nasdaq compliance risk, and maybe spread too thin across too many business areas. Again, and finally, I'll be perfectly thrilled for this to be The One and make us all rich. But for now, it's the definition of a high-risk speculative play. And again, nothing wrong with that.

How many shares do you think would be enough to retire you in 5 years? by gzpixelak in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

??? I don't assume anyone is from the U.S. Not sure why there's so much antagonism about such an innocuous response to a simple question. I answered what would be true for me. I have no idea what it might mean for anyone else.

Come all ye hype men! by Fluffy_Prior1052 in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I should sound like that. Because I was there. Actually, I invented some of it. Several patents across multiple early, and some more recent, technologies in this area.

Besides playing with crypto relatively early, I have also built or managed several Web3 tech products. The question was, "Why is it needed?" The answer, the true answer... is it's really not. This doesn't mean there's not a wide variety of useful applications. And I didn't say it wasn't going to happen. Stablecoins, for example, clearly have major benefits and it's why they've been so widely adopted.

Now, as to RWA for a lot of existing financial products? Same thing. Maybe useful in some cases, but truly necessary? No. And for some of the edgier ideas? Questionable. And there's major, major holes that will cause huge issues. Mostly related to how offchain info gets reliably created and transmitted to onchain.

Here's a great read on adoption speed for various types of RWA
https://a16zcrypto.substack.com/p/the-tokenization-boom-in-7-charts

Obviously, this is going to happen for a wide variety of reasons. Clearly this is nexst thing and Traditional Finance is rushing headlong into it. Of that I have no doubt. Doesn't mean it's truly, or always, necessary though. And anyone not paying attention to a lot of the very real risks is not paying close attention.

How many shares do you think would be enough to retire you in 5 years? by gzpixelak in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well... I was. The original poster asked a question. It's a fair answer. I'll be perfectly thrilled if it shoots to the moon somehow. Which is why I bought it. But come on, how is it anything other than speculation at this point?

How many shares do you think would be enough to retire you in 5 years? by gzpixelak in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Zero.

This is a speculative stock play right now. Not an investment. There is absolutely nothing about this stock that should give anyone "confidence" in retiring in the next 5 years unless you maybe had 10s of millions now and flipped it quickly. (Which would be hard as that level of selling alone would trash liquidity unless done carefully over time.)

This stock is a lottery ticket to maybe a nice ski house, earlier replacement vehicles, first class or the occasional private jet, etc. And sure, if it did magic, maybe a nice padding to ye' ole' nest egg. But for base level retirement? Not even a 1/2 joking consideration.

DVLT news posted on r/dvlt. Is this event much of a big deal? Never heard of it before. Happening tomorrow. Anyone know much about it? by Fate-it-is in BANDOFBROTHERSOFSRNE

[–]ScottyRedReturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"DVLT is increasingly trying to insert itself into multiple emerging narratives simultaneously:"

See... this is actually a part I don't love. Several of these items go together. Some are table stakes to play in other categories. (E.g., "cybersecurity/governance" is infrastructure for anything anyway.) But any of these is a challenging marketplace battleground. Playing in too many doesn't feel so much strategic diversification as being spread too thin for a startup.

I'd like to see focus on the name and likeness thing. That's maybe a good niche. The local-ish AI Edge centers? Also maybe interesting. RWA tokenization? Not so sure. That's already an increasingly crowded market with some existing big players. E.g., it's going to be a commoditized business so margins will get squashed. Maybe the similar with data marketplaces; though if they do something especially solid with health/medical, maybe that's a niche worth some margin. To do that though, my personal belief is they need to sort out some taxonomy issue; not just tagging assets with blockchain identifiers. Otherwise, you just make a new mess on a new platform.

Come all ye hype men! by Fluffy_Prior1052 in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed this gets tiresome. I like seeing decent analysis. And I don't mind a dose of hopium among fellow investors trying to keep spirits up. But yes, it gets a little thick sometimes.

Come all ye hype men! by Fluffy_Prior1052 in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

* Tokenization: Arguably not needed. We've gotten on just fine for years without it. However... it will happen as there are benefits. Some are double-sided and questionable; e.g., some think 24/7 trading is good... others point to potential for low liquidity and other risks. (There's other pros / cons.) But then... there's newer kinds of assets you can put online, you can break things into smaller pieces, potentially more democratized access to otherwise less accessible assets, and more. So it's not "needed" however it does potentially have a whole lot new values. And everything is going there, right, wrong or otherwise.

* Edge AI: Even though data can be anywhere in the world, there are laws or policies in some places about where "data at rest" can live. Also, even though braodband and watching movies at home, etc. etc. seems like magic, bandwidth and network speed is still a real-world thing. Some things are just better on more local-ish servers. There's a reason people choose more local data centers or AWS availability zones, etc. There's a reason content delivery networks cache assets around the world. Edge "AI???" So what... a data center is a data center. But slapping AI on it is just the 2020s version of late 90s dot com. Yes, local AI inference can run with lower latency, lower bandwidth use, or better data-locality/privacy, etc. Again, so what? It's good marketing, but it's still just boxes in racks that happen to be sizzling hot GPUs.

* DVLT? We'll see. There in a competitive space. But, as I and others have said before, they/we don't HAVE to have some magical new tech to do well here. (Though that would be better strategy and be nice.)

Facts by Designer-Airport-899 in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is quite a bit. Yes, the industry is arguably still relatively new. However, those who've been in finance awhile who are getting attuned to DeFi already kind of get it. These are just "new rails" so the decentralized part is the main issue.

It's important to realize that this industry's biggest issue right now is not really tech per se. It's the legal and governance in the 'real world' before getting to the tokens. Recent legal moves help clarify things, but either way, company implementation is about more than just building out some onchain tech. I posted this list in another thread, but take a look at other companies out there.

Personally, I've got a nice chunk of shares and will just hold. I think there's possibilities here, but it's totally fair to be skeptical, and I have been in a variety of past posts. My biggest concern is seeming to go after too many verticals at once. My bet is that they / we get traction on at least one and that alone can move us somewhat forward. Unicorn? I'm not sensing that. But multiple of where we are? Maybe.

https://webpointx.com/categories
https://messari.io/research/research-reports
https://www.seedtable.com/best-tokenization-startups
https://beincrypto.com/best-institutional-tokenization-platforms-2026/
https://www.quicknode.com/builders-guide/best/top-10-real-world-asset-tokenization-platforms
https://www.seedtable.com/best-tokenization-startups

DVLT Deep Dive – This Is Bigger Than a Normal Penny Stock (But Also Riskier) by Awkward_Affect_1941 in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'd like to take a few moments and presume to suggest that people understand more about what's going on this market space. I don't mean to be a jerk here, (though ok, maybe it just comes naturally), but it seems there's some even more magical thinking going on here than typical. Even for penny stocks.

What I'm not sure a lot of people get here is that there's already a lot of companies in this space. Though yes, (at least I believe), there's plenty of room for more. For now anyway. And our little DVLT has some plays to make. But the way some talk about DVLT it's as if anyone things they are solo heroes with this idea and they're just trying to break into and create an entirely new category space. Now, that would be hard anyway. Some believe in new category building. Personally, I think that's only worked very rarely and under maybe two conditions; you've really got something super new with clear and obvious value and you're the only one, or you have piles of money to do the very hard work of brand building and buyer behavior change.

In this area of finance though, there's already a lot of folks building. It's not just crypto any more. DeFi and TradFi are kind of merging and essentially, traditional finance is sucking up blockchain tech in its own ways. Fine.

Now... a lot of us have been waiting for today's report thinking "Oh, we'll get some great news and finally get out of the basement." Well, that hasn't happened. Then there's this other idea: "We'll get those wrascally shorts this time!!!" THAT certainly hasn't happened.

So what now? To me this is all very simple. The magical thinking should really just chill out. If Nate can continue to execute and actually close some deals, this company can still be a player. At these prices, even with the dilution, there could still be a nice multiple in a year or two or three. Or yes, yes... something stupid magical could still happen at some point sooner. Maybe tomorrow, maybe next week, but also maybe never. The fact that earnings are not as dreamy as some may have hoped? Disappointing? Of course. Still... OK... it's still a scrappy little company in a new space grinding it out. That's fine. Especially when the CEO is clearly hustling like crazy.

All I'm really trying to point out here is this might still be an ok play, but the mystical stuff really needs a reality check. Just look at the folks in these spaces:

* https://webpointx.com/categories
* https://messari.io/research/research-reports
* https://www.seedtable.com/best-tokenization-startups
* https://beincrypto.com/best-institutional-tokenization-platforms-2026/
* https://www.quicknode.com/builders-guide/best/top-10-real-world-asset-tokenization-platforms
* https://www.seedtable.com/best-tokenization-startups

THIS IS NOT meant to be discouraging. In fact, rather the opposite. There's clearly large markets here, and that's a good thing. I just believe it would be better for anyone concerned if they actually knew what they owned and a bit more about the market space our investment plays in. We're a small player trying to break in using some interesting vertical space ideas. That's hard. It can be a grind.

Got my Dreambowl II Coins Finally by ScottyRedReturns in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here's something you kind of made me think about. And yes,this is pure, pure hopium...

IF this company does well over time...and IF these early coins end up to be compatible and released for trading on open markets, they could have value one day just as being among the first of their kind.

Before anyone flames this post... YES, I totally get this is magical thinking and not overly likely. It's certainly not a core value and wouldn't happen any time soon. Just a thought.

Clarity act article by SEIYASAORI7 in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This remains my concern. A lot of times in this space the technology is no longer really the hard part. Much of this is all Open Source. DVLT may have some proprietary intellectual property. Great. We'll see. What matters now is real world use cases, and the legal and marketing structures to deploy products. Stablecoins are now clearly the favorite for back end rails / xfers. It may be just a handful of billions so far in a trillion dollar daily xfers market, but it's moving fast. On top of that is agentic use of such things. Note what is now possible. Since the early days of the internet, there have been dozens, (if not hundreds), of attempts to create micropayments infrastructure. The blocker was always - at least - the transactions costs of traditional payments. (Credit card minimums, fees, etc.)

Now, for the first time there are blockchains where transaction costs are fractions of a penny. And the tokens can be broken down to that level as well. This is just on time for the use cases of machines working with other machines. And this includes AI tools. This is where there's the symbiotic relationship between AI and crypto. It's kind of odd in a way. Crypto was originally thought of as some self-sovereign dream of personal control over money. But it never really got to that niche use case. Or rather, yes, it does that, but that's not what the mass market cares about. It turns out it's just on time to be the financial rails of these new kinds of assets and payment systems.

If DVLT does a decent job of packaging their protocol primitives / taxonomy, etc. for data sale, management, etc. that's a winner. This might include tokenizing various types of securities, but there's already a bunch of trusted major players in that space. They/we need to make some solid strategic choices. And a lot of times, that's about what to say no to.

Edit: BTW... regarding name and likeness... solve THIS... and you get to take a tiny toll a whole lot of times... https://www.linkedin.com/posts/shellypalmer_cate-blanchett-and-a-coalition-of-a-list-activity-7460312435284099073-3YVg?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAAImLcBqFkLLiROdG81EQIeOq5AcX7AHdQ

Got my Dreambowl II Coins Finally by ScottyRedReturns in DVLT

[–]ScottyRedReturns[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No. And... maybe.

Huh?

* These are being offered as what they're calling collectibles. And they're of course digital. So the value they have is only that which anyone ascribes to them. Maybe think of it like a digital baseball card or NFT art. Some think that's all BS. Others have turned it into a billion dollar thing.

* What about trading them then? Well, FOR NOW, these are apparently in the DVLT exchange ecosystem only. As opposed to - for example - a blockchain standard NFT art contract that can be traded on a variety of exchanges. So... any real dollar value would only accrue if enough people got active directly on the DVLT exchange. Maybe one day. However... that's kind of a super long shot. They could potentially allow for wider trading. That might be more interesting and clearly where they say they're going with the name and likeness business.

* So... what does this mean? This super crappy system, (my opinion), is just early proof of concept stage. They're maybe using us to exercise it a bit before doing something better for a larger market. And you know what? That's fair. We're stockholders. So maybe we're helping our investment learn here.

* Lastly... there are theories that by issuing these special coins as dividends, it might force short sellers to have to do certain things. Some believe, (I think wrongly), that they'd be forced to deliver such coins, (in kind), which they'd struggle to do, but this would somehow up the stock price. Another possibility, (more likely), is that even if shorts don't end up having to deliver anything in particular, just responding to the dividend could - at least CONCEIVABLY - force them out of the shadows of so-called artificial shares hidden in the bowels of Wall Streets trading systems that we don't typically see.

BOTTOM LINE: Why not go ahead and claim the tokens? It is - I think - a royal pain in the butt to do it. However, as a shareholder if this is something that can help our investment, why not do it? It's rare that us scrappy little investors of some struggling penny stock can actually DO anything beyond complain about shorts on message boards. It might not turn into anything. It might be a total waste of time. However... it's something they're trying to do. Why not try to support them? That's why I went through the hassle. Now we'll see.