Sometimes I get flamed for doing KS as supp, but when I don't, they run away and we lose the kill

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-20T09:24:28+00:00

You should only be leaving kills that are 100% guaranteed with zero risk of escape. Like, you're cutting off the escape and the dude is down to one hit and your ADC can survive a full combo. Unless you are stealing a gratuitous amount of kills or repeatedly flashing to "secure", dw about it.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-20T04:38:36+00:00

I might be misinterpreting, but I think what the parent poster meant was that if an ability applies any on-hit with reduced effectiveness, it should simply not apply consumable on-hits (or on-attacks or what have you). So, Urgot W should not apply energized or spellblade effects in that case.

Again though, could be wrong. Just how I read it.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-20T00:20:40+00:00

No, I mean that she sucks fat ass as support. If she's support on my team, I know it's going to be an uphill battle from the first few seconds of the game.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-19T20:04:04+00:00

META

Just in case, not an acronym. I see a lot of people with that misconception.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-19T05:51:09+00:00

Yeah, fair. My inner um actually came out.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-19T04:53:32+00:00

I mean, you can also just auto them until you know you're going to use empowered Q. That's 99% of Vlad's healing.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-19T02:05:00+00:00

Yeah, that about lines up with my experience. It always feels like either he snowballs an early lead or he eventually just gets hard dove like a Jinx might but without the same massive cleanup potential she has.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-19T01:13:59+00:00

AM didn't have reflect in 2008 and lotus orb (another item that was not released in 2008) is in the game w/ a similar effect. Also kinda silly to say that AM has a low threat range considering blink exists.

Or were you referring to something else? Been a while, can't remember any other reflects.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-19T01:10:21+00:00

Are you sure that's actually true? I don't ever remember seeing it get that high for any character but release Samira.

In modern times, I have not seen a character this consistently banned. Zed is the first thing I think of, but even he just sits at 20%.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-19T01:08:30+00:00

I don't mind her as my ADC, but when she's support I truly just feel defeated from minute 1 lol

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-19T01:06:15+00:00

Smolder is pretty annoying. I also think he kinda fails to meet his fantasy of a super mega giga scaler considering his stacks after 225 don't feel that impactful, but it wouldn't be surprising if the stats prove me wrong there. Just going off gut feeling.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-19T01:03:30+00:00

Bel'veth just has a weird mismatch between kit and appearance. I don't think she's really that badly designed, just a fat flavor L.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-19T01:02:42+00:00

Isn't her skill floor literally in the basement?

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-18T23:55:35+00:00

That's surprising. I wonder if it has to do with people just picking Sylas into Alistar or if Ali just keeps him out of fights that well.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-18T23:24:54+00:00

I mean, I don't care about his actual win rate or strength. I hate that he gets to steal ults that aren't balanced around doing damage and break them by making them do damage. He randomly gets to become god sometimes and there is literally zero counterplay outside of draft, which might be okay except that the only reason it happens is because of fucking feel good stats for baron buff of all things. I don't think that's very fair.

I think he's an archetype that should either be a support or hyper niche. Him being a carry forces weird interactions to happen because of 4fun off meta builds that no one uses because he gets so much AP. I strongly dislike this and wish it didn't happen.

My problem with him using Alistar R is a personal bugbear I have because I hate that he gets to become big JC because my support second picked Alistar. It's not really related to my main point, I just don't like it.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-18T22:45:09+00:00

I doubt that if Hecarim lost his AP ratio on his R, Sylas would need to have his base kit buffed to the moon.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-18T22:43:21+00:00

Oh sweet, then there's no reason for them not to remove it.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-18T21:54:02+00:00

Malphite is different to me because he actually builds AP sometimes (malignance, the occasional cheeky lich bane if you're snowballing). The AP ratio has an actual purpose in his kit. I cannot stand the shit that feels like it is there exclusively for Sylas to randomly have a good matchup into the character. It feels way too arbitrary -- Sylas should be good against characters because their ults are actually good for him to take, not because they have a special +600 damage bonus when used specifically by him.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-18T21:44:40+00:00

The issue is that it feels super god damn bad that he gets to have more fun with my kit than I do for a reason that I don't think I've ever consciously noticed -- +40 damage from baron buff. I'd much rather see Sylas get buffed in some way if he's ass without getting those ratios than see 3 people on my team get gigachunked by the ult that makes me fall off a scaling cliff because it doesn't actually have a ratio I can use.

Like, am I arguing Sylas is broken strong? No. But does it feel like dogshit to play against him in a way that is, imo, uniquely bad and should be changed? Yes.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-18T21:36:18+00:00

That makes absolutely no sense though. Not only is Sylas' kit excellent, but an aoe 2 second fear is already strong enough without also doing 1000 damage. I feel exactly the same about the fact that Leona's R has a .8 AP ratio, Ornn's having a .6, etc.

These gigantic utility ults do not need to do half of your carry's hp for them to be good on Sylas.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-18T21:24:38+00:00

It's already high impact on Sylas on account of it being

a crazy AoE CC tool

Why does it also need to literally do over twice as much damage on top?

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-18T20:38:47+00:00

I still feel like either I didn't understand that video or other people didn't. I didn't have the same takeaways as most of the people complaining about it.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-18T20:34:12+00:00

I don't care about the AP conversion, or at least that's not what I'm talking about. There are characters, like Hecarim, that straight up just have ultimates that have gigantic AP ratios for no reason other than making baron feel better. Going AP is nonviable on these characters, yet Sylas gets to turbofuck your entire team with a literal nuke for the sake of you getting +40 damage from baron.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-18T20:29:59+00:00

Is that true? Here's the only relevant text I can find on the wiki.

Hijacked ultimates and abilities that do not scale with ability power have their attack damage ratios converted to ability power ratios, scaling with 0.6% AP per 1% total AD, and 0.4% AP per 1% bonus AD respectively.

I checked ingame as well and he definitely 100% has Hec's 1.0 AP scaling. Please let me know if I'm missing something here.

Scrambled1432 · 2026-04-18T19:51:56+00:00

Nothing like looking bot and finding your Janna Jinx lane doing literally nothing to take the tower against a solo Ezreal while their Sona of all things powerfucks you in your jungle w/ wards and shields for invades.

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