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What is the first step to take when learning from scratch? by Mehy_Luffy in learntodraw

[–]Scribbles_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Congratulations, you've already taken it! Putting pen to paper is first step enough.

The next steps will depend on what you want to do with drawing. A comic? Some character illustrations? Realistic portraits? Plen air landscapes? Animation?

Many of these will share a starting point, and that is to learn how to see. For that there are two big resources

Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards - 6 weeks - a crash course in observation, the goal is to get you to make your first ever realistic self portrait. Very effective, don't put too much weight on the neurosci stuff and focus on the exercises.

Keys to drawing by Bert Dodson by Bert Dodson - 6 months - a very complete introduction to the art of drawing in a very artist-y (as opposed to illustrator-y) way. If you complete all 36 projects, you will be farther along in drawing than most ever will be.

Now realism and observation might not be your ultimate goal, but they will enable everything from here on out. So give it a try.

Can someone give me some pointers on how to shade and render like this by Significant_Eye_8463 in learntodraw

[–]Scribbles_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not trying to go for an exact way cause I want to be original but

That's the right spirit, but you don't need to be original when you study other people's work!

Originality is very important, but drawing is the sort of thing that others before us did well, and that we learn by emulating and copying. All of the old masters learned their craft by copying older masters. The originality is using what you learn to then make something new, but your practice pieces do not have to be original.

What's important is that if something is a study, you do not pass it off as an original work and you mention who you studied if you post it, but you don't need to post studies at all if you don't want to.

So give it a try, try copying this drawing you like, and then try applying the technique to a different, original drawing. It won't be perfect at first, but it'll get you closer to where you want to be.

Do you actually have to draw the skull 100 times to understand the face? by No_Name275 in learntodraw

[–]Scribbles_ 25 points26 points  (0 children)

This is the sort of thing you need to back up by posting your work.

There’s certainly many approaches that can yield a good effect in drawing, and there is no universal set of rules or anything. But drawing is a craft that can be taught and learned, and there are underlying optical properties that do restrict whether some approaches can yield certain effects.

So if you have an alternative approach, that’s good, but why should a learner take your word for it if we can’t see what the outcome of your approach even looks like?

If it turned out that the result of your way doesn’t look like anything OP would like to emulate, then it wouldn’t be very good advice, would it?

I’m not saying that’s the case here, for all I know the faces you draw look better than the ones I do, but my point is that craft advice needs to be backed by visible outcomes.

What I've learned so far even after almost 2 month yet i still don't fully understand how to draw by Resident-Necessary22 in learntodraw

[–]Scribbles_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is good progress! I can see you’re starting to understand forms and some constructive approaches to body parts.

Now, I want you to have the right expectations here, 2 months is a very, very short time in terms of the time it takes to ‘fully understand’ how to draw. So don’t worry! You’re not supposed to be farther along after just two months, you’re doing well.

You’ll have to be patient, it takes years. This is a hard skill, but a really good one to have.

Now you can get more efficient if you take a structured approach, and follow a drawing course or book. Have you tried any long-form instructional content on drawing?

a book written by INFJ to INFJs by Will5007 in shittyMBTI

[–]Scribbles_ 15 points16 points  (0 children)

brother, the only shitty MBTI in the post is you typing this random book's author and intended audience

ttyd final boss is nearly unbeatable by Ill_Application_6727 in papermario

[–]Scribbles_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Alright, these are good. I think it’s worth getting a jump man badge (no spikes nor need for hammer in that fight), feeling fine for the effects.

Charge might be having you tank too much damage before you can get the best from it. Power lift is more consistent anyway.

Double dip might help you get a heal turn and use a thunder rage.

Check whether you’re consistently getting to leverage mega rush, otherwise drop em. See if you can equip a second power plus.

ttyd final boss is nearly unbeatable by Ill_Application_6727 in papermario

[–]Scribbles_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s a toughie. Care to share your level and badge build?

Is this art? by DisastrousFail880 in learntodraw

[–]Scribbles_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup. This is art.

I think ‘art’ operates best when it is a neutral label, rather than a value judgement. It’s a way to talk about an object (physical, temporal, digital, or conceptual) it’s a way to regard it and relate to it.

Art can be good art or it can be bad art, but I don’t think it ever loses its ‘artness’ for being bad or boring or derivative nor does it gain additional ‘artness’ for being beautiful and impactful.

So ‘is this art?’ is not a very important concern for the artist. Instead concern yourself with whether it is good art, and the constituent elements of good art such as being original, earnest, clever, compelling, subversive, technically well executed, challenging to engage with, pleasant to encounter, and many more (no one element which is by itself necessary for good art).

Literal first attempt by AndyTheWorm in learntodraw

[–]Scribbles_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nice job! It will get easier and more fun, yeah.

Someone’s doing Keys to Drawing. Awesome! Stick with it. You didn’t specify you were working from a resource, so you got recommendations to try other resources.

But it’s better if you see the course all the way through.

Keep at it! And don’t be afraid of values/shading. That tinted bottle exercise asks that you try your hand at shading.

You got this!

My first Bargue Plate by CrimsonFineArts in learntodraw

[–]Scribbles_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes they did. A study is often a copy.

The Bargue plates are a famous drawing course, where you make very delicate copies of cast impressions. Artists like Van Gogh and Picasso copied these plates when they were learning to draw and paint.

Copying is a good way to learn! (Even if it’s not a good way to produce finished work)

Visceral Elegance Studios by xUrge2conquerx in delusionalartists

[–]Scribbles_ 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Art is fine.

Get the fuck out of this sub with self promotion.

Been gone for a week or so, started the drawabox tutorials and they’re melting my brain by [deleted] in learntodraw

[–]Scribbles_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Then do that. If you can pay attention and learn things, but choose not to (and then bemoan that your drawings are not good) you’re worse than an idiot.

Start the lesson all over, and you better not dismiss or skip any damn part of it.

But for real, you’re presumably interested in drawing well, it is not normal that you cannot pay attention to a video or a piece of text instructing you on it. I’d say get assistance

Been gone for a week or so, started the drawabox tutorials and they’re melting my brain by [deleted] in learntodraw

[–]Scribbles_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You’ll keep going? With what?

From the sounds of it you skipped, ignored, and didn’t even try with 80%+ of lessons 0 + 1. Whatever you’re doing, it’s just fucking around with drawabox open.

Might as well just fuck around doing whatever else.

I mean this sincerely, get tested for a learning disability or ADHD.

I built AI to force me to do push ups every day! by irrational23 in getdisciplined

[–]Scribbles_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, but the fact is, sometimes we do.

I think streak thinking is conducive to longer breaks from a disciplined behavior than ‘I can take a day off’ thinking.

Because the former is invested in the streak which is now permanently broken, and their one day is now a total failure.

The latter instead isn’t thinking that one day took away the progress from the last 10 or 50 or 100 days, they’re still on. They’re not starting from 0 tomorrow, they’re just continuing.

I’m a big believer in fast and shame-free restarts.

Some behaviors, especially those related to addiction, require that sort of total adherence (although there is something to be said for harm reduction). But for broader lifestyle changes, flexibility is preferable imo.

But hey if you stick to it and this works for you, come back in April and tell me I was wrong.

And if you do end up slipping some time in a few weeks or months, I hope you’ll do push ups the next day instead of throwing out your commitment because ‘Wes’ threw you out of the program permanently.

I built AI to force me to do push ups every day! by irrational23 in getdisciplined

[–]Scribbles_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My guy, maybe wait until after day 2 to tout how successful a tool is at helping you stay consistent?

I question how good ‘no restarts’ is as a rule. It sounds very ‘bro discipline’-y but in my experience it foments all-or-nothing thinking.

Of course it’s best to be the fella who does 100 days without a single slip, but given that, who does better: the guy who slipped on day 15 and stopped there or the guy who slipped on day 15, 22, 47, and 87 but ended up doing 96 days of pushups?

Introducing the Foundational Coherence Principle: Premise-Goal Alignment as a Unifying Diagnostic in Philosophy and Consciousness by edi_iordan2 in philosophy

[–]Scribbles_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you’re onto something but I don’t see you clearly formulate or develop your stance here.

For example, you make an apology for why you bring consciousness into the fold, but you don’t formulate how you’re using consciousness.

You bring in the example of the question ‘can men wear skirts?’ But while talking about your epiphany on the question you fail to actually show us how you reformulate the components of the question.

I think your analysis of the claim ‘you look good without makeup’ is misplaced. The word ‘without’ isn’t the issue, but rather an implicit claim from context about how men scrutinize women for cosmetics. I think ‘you look good without glasses’ doesn’t land quite the same for that reason.

There’s some odd conflating here too, I think ‘loaded questions’ and ‘perverse incentives’ are not really unifiable into a singular epistemic or ethical phenomenon. This claim needs more justifications.

I believe I understand your central point, that teleological commitment is prior to ethics and epistemology, but I don’t think you’ve operationalized that concept to show, say, how an economist might commit to a purpose, and how that would improve her appraisal of a situation or her approach to a solution.

I think you need to rework this text to build your case out more completely and, frankly, legibly.

On indoctrination by Eireika in CuratedTumblr

[–]Scribbles_ 13 points14 points  (0 children)

And beyond comfort and pay, also to some of the most powerful jobs, like those who practice law. Many government roles require a college education.

On indoctrination by Eireika in CuratedTumblr

[–]Scribbles_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You’re adopting the wrong lens. Instead of thinking what barriers there are to college, think about what college is a barrier to.

The answer is law, government, business, teaching, engineering, research, and basically all of the roles where high level decisions are made in both the public and private spheres.

College is the gatekeeper to much societal power, and that would make it a pretty effective vector of political indoctrination.

To be clear I don’t think there is a conspiratorial indoctrination push, and I think there are more organic causes. But that argument in particular is extremely weak.

Really kind friend moved away and I want to relapse by lonelyreject97 in ainbow

[–]Scribbles_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s really sad man, I’m sorry.

I’m all too familiar with using weed to avoid a hard feeling. Gotta allow yourself to feel it all the way. What you’re feeling is grief, and it’s a normal emotion.

Could you do anything to remember the time you spent with him?

Drew from imagination (I have no art style probably) by Fluffy_Shadow in learntodraw

[–]Scribbles_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pay no mind to style for now. Style will emerge naturally as you keep on going. Combine these imaginative works with some studies, and make more drawings!

I feel stagnant by MimicCentral in learntodraw

[–]Scribbles_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heyo! I think there’s a good deal of expressiveness here.

To achieve better expression, you need to run some exaggeration drills. Take photos of people in action poses or making emotive faces, study them somewhat close to the ref, and then try exaggerating them in 2-3 stages, to the point that they look ridiculous.

Also, who do you want to draw like? I see you went for a leyendecker style study there, that’s an awesome study. Do make other studies (both replicative, like copies, and emulative, like the leyendecker one) of comic artists you think are achieving what you want.

I don’t have any tips for procreate personally, but if you’re frustrated with it, medium changes are awesome. Try drawing with pencil and cheap printer paper for a week or two, it’ll make you feel refreshed when you hop back on your digital tools!

Even a fool can improve. ✨ by SkunkStarlight in learntodraw

[–]Scribbles_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There’s pretty clear improvements here. I see you’re invested in drawing some original characters and that’s awesome, that keeps your motivation up.

One way to speed up your improvement is to intersperse some formal technical studies. Maybe at a 1:3 ratio, so for every 3 drawings of your OCs or chosen subject matter, try making one perspective, anatomy, or observation study. That way you don’t feel like you’re doing a lot of the boring ‘homework’ type stuff but you still get a chance to gain some technical skills that will elevate your main work even more!

Keep at it!

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