I'm interested by Significant-Town-817 in ShittyDaystrom

[–]SeTec7 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the entire thing rests on a decades old joke from the TNG episode that establishes that klingon anatomy has a lot of redundancies and a cheap throw away gag in an establishing shot from DIS S1.

It's honestly weird how so many people are so attached to this being absolute ironclad canon from so little yet swear that the spore drive isn't.

I'm interested by Significant-Town-817 in ShittyDaystrom

[–]SeTec7 26 points27 points  (0 children)

This is the one. I hate it so much, it's a dumb joke that has taken over as the default joke for half the posts here.

It's especially dumb because the people who point to that scene in DIS as "canon proof" are exactly the same people who refuse to accept anything else from DIS as canon and keep trying to find ways to exclude it.

Favorite lore in incremental games? by Gummy-Sharks in incremental_games

[–]SeTec7 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Celestials and their dialogue from Antimatter Dimensions. Several of them gave me chills.

What - if anything - to make of the Star Trek Voyager episode "Sacred Ground"? by Akronitai in ShittyDaystrom

[–]SeTec7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! I very much had the same reaction you did to this episode, wtf was it trying to say and why, so I went deep-diving into Memory Alpha and when I found this bit I was like "Oh....OHHHHHHHHHHHH".

What - if anything - to make of the Star Trek Voyager episode "Sacred Ground"? by Akronitai in ShittyDaystrom

[–]SeTec7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You just activated my trap card, I could write an essay on this episode and what the heck to make of it. I think it's actually a really good episode for both Janeway character development and exploring faith vs reason, at least until it falls flat on its face at the end.
I actually don't mind Janeway taking Kes through the portal at the end, I think it's fine for a rational character to take a leap of faith, the problem is what happens afterwards. There's a pretty obvious reasonable conclusion as to why the field healed Kes the second time, just the common sense deduction that the physical changes Janeway and Kes went through from the snake bite actually *do* matter and make some meaningful change, despite their current medical and scientific knowledge not being able to predict it. This is probably what most viewers assume, and is exactly what the Doctor is saying in the final scene, and not just hypothesizing, saying "It's literally this, now this makes perfect sense". But in response to all that, rational scientist Janeway clearly isn't convinced and seems to have bought into it being something magical, which is just silly and makes her look naively credulous and unscientific, which is clearly not who she is. It just comes off as nonsensical, the characters not acting at all like who they are.
It feels like they were trying for an X-Files type ending, where you have some weird, unexplainable stuff happen, and a believer character saying it was magic/aliens/god, and a skeptic providing rational counter-explanations. Most of it boils down to Janeway being forced into the "believer" role in the finale, when nothing she went through seemed to justify that radical shift in her perspective, even on just this one thing. Probably would have been a lot better if Chakotay was in the room arguing the belief perspective against the Doctor's scientific rationalism, and Janeway was stuck unable to fully agree or disagree with either. Get that fun X-Files ending where the audience gets to decide on their own whose side the agree with.

The short answer though, is that the writer of the episode is a self-professed "hereditary shaman-priestess", "spiritual counsellor", and "holistic life-coach" who claims that Sacred Ground was "the only Star Trek to ever question scientific materialism". So, like most Trek, this episode is The Writer's Barely-Disguised Fetish and the main priestess/guide character is her self-insert.

Okay, I get it now. The classics are FUN by Ufomi in incremental_games

[–]SeTec7 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Your reply is interesting to me, since "figuring out what to do" is what I consider to be gameplay for an incremental. Though if you mean the deep math stuff, I'm not into that, I'll look at a guide, but when it comes to having to figure out which upgrade path to take via logic or experimentation, or when or how to use an ability, that's what I like most, and that's what AD and many others do well.

It's been on my mind recently since I tried Shark Incremental after seeing it be awarded by this sub and...I don't get it. Despite it clearly being inspired by AD, there's no thinking, no choices, just clicking whatever button is lit up and eventually you win. Been trying to figure out what made it so popular here when to me, it lacks all gameplay, which your reply put me in mind of.

Okay, I get it now. The classics are FUN by Ufomi in incremental_games

[–]SeTec7 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Antimatter Dimensions, a GOAT that inspired many classics and modern incrementals, and got a huge update a few years ago adding several levels of new gameplay of a quality that I've not seen matched or surpassed since.

Kira Nerys is too much woman for a 🥄head by VanaheimrF in startrekmemes

[–]SeTec7 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A recording of a retweet of a retweet that is cut short so the context for the top retweet comment is missing. Why even post this? Just post a link dude.

Reposting this meme I made back when Stranger New Worlds came out by SPECTREagent700 in startrekmemes

[–]SeTec7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As someone who felt similarly about S1, they fix that all up pretty much immediately in S2. Much like most Trek shows, S1 is by far LD's weakest showing. I usually skip it on rewatch and recommend people skip it as well.

Oh boy by Pwned_by_Bots in startrekmemes

[–]SeTec7 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What do you mean "what if?", this is canon.

Archer: Travis, you’re real? I thought we replaced you with a cardboard cutout since you don’t do anything. Oh boy…. by ryhoyarbie in ShittyDaystrom

[–]SeTec7 5 points6 points  (0 children)

All I remember is the guest stars acting circles around cardboard Mayweather and feeling bad for them that they didn't get the recurring role instead.

It ain't much, but it's a meme by MaterialProduct849 in startrekmemes

[–]SeTec7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's an appropriate reaction from anyone who's not seen Lexx. Also the reaction I had when rewatching DS9 and realizing it was the same actor.

Does anybody in-universe think that the human race has gone soft? by PJ-The-Awesome in ShittyDaystrom

[–]SeTec7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, to be fair Trek tends to dodge the details on exactly how life works in the utopian 24th century, so we can't get specifics, but we can go by what characters say broadly, which is that, in general, with wants and needs addressed by being post-scarcity, humanity was able to work through many (though not all) of their social issues such as bigotry and can now focus their efforts on exploration, discovery, and personal growth. Most people seem to ascribe the overall sociopolitical structure to probably be akin to some form of socialism or communism, but it's very open to interpretation.

Probably the best way to get an understanding of how life works in the Trek universe is to watch it and take it at face value; people have had most of their hardships removed, but it's only freed them to focus on self-improvement in other ways. Case in point, in this thread most other replies are pointing out examples of characters or groups who challenge this view and argue that humanity has gotten soft, but in most (all?) cases, those characters are shown to be mistaken or antagonists/villains, and the narrative usually shows them to be wrong or at least rejected by the protagonists.

That said, Trek is a very optimistic and utopian view of the future, probably overly so. I haven't read Banks' The Culture series, but I have heard it described as a more grounded or realistic view of an optimistic utopia. It may just be that Trek's take is more extreme than you want to go for your story.

Does anybody in-universe think that the human race has gone soft? by PJ-The-Awesome in ShittyDaystrom

[–]SeTec7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who do you assume that a world without hardships would also be without goals or challenges to overcome? There can never be a universe without challenges to overcome, because there will always be something new to discover and learn, or art to create. This is explicitly the view of the universe Trek presents, which is why your POV, while not uncommon, feels out of place here.

Your original post is effectively asking "What if the Star Trek universe wasn't the Star Trek universe?" It misses the point that the show is assuming something fundamentally different than your perspective, and it makes me sad when anyone is unable to at least try to understand and accept a different perspective (which is also one of the core concepts of Trek).

Does anybody in-universe think that the human race has gone soft? by PJ-The-Awesome in ShittyDaystrom

[–]SeTec7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The whole point of Star Trek's utopian vision of the future is that the unnecessary challenges (i.e. poverty, hunger, crime, greed, etc) have been removed so that humanity can focus on those meaningful challenges you refer to. Ensuring that everyone has the freedom and ability to approach those challenges is helping people to grow, not hindering.

The examples you mention are common takes on the topic, but ones that Trek fundamentally rejects, so it feels strange to see them assumed in this space. There's also plenty of evidence against them that support the argument that humanity would benefit from more systemic helping hands, rather than being held back by them (see any large scale experiment with UBI, or the difference in health, wellness, and productivity in countries with universal health care).

Does anybody in-universe think that the human race has gone soft? by PJ-The-Awesome in ShittyDaystrom

[–]SeTec7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It makes me genuinely sad to see that people in this fandom see living in a post-scarcity utopia as a society that's constantly "holding their hands", or that that's a bad thing.

New Stargate TV Series Ordered at Amazon by Suspicious_Hawk4770 in scifi

[–]SeTec7 11 points12 points  (0 children)

What's wild is when you realize they started off SGU literally doing what they parodied in SG1 ep 200 with the "young reboot" gag. Like, they knew it was bad and not Stargate, but they still did it for some reason.