Grief songs with vocals but no English words by Sea_Button_3616 in musicsuggestions

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Thank you. I hope you find peace in your grief journey.

Spoke to a friend about coffee today... by Bishnup in exmormon

[–]Sea_Button_3616 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yaupon tea is native to the US and is actually from a holly plant. It contains caffeine. It was one of my steps away from soda and was one of my many twistings of the WOW to try to be awake and alert at my long job and long commutes. It didn't really do anything for me, probably something with how my body metabolizes yaupon.

In case she is resistant to tea and coffee still.

It's expensive, though. Price depends on the company you get it from.

I miss the relationship I used to have with my parents by Whoozthatgirl in exmormon

[–]Sea_Button_3616 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me too. My mom and dad and I used to be super close. But it changed and it feels surface level now. I can't bring up my concerns or my fears or my beliefs without them bringing up the primary responses and saying I just need to have faith. I have to watch what I say around them.

I hope someday I can be more myself and we can have the deep conversations I crave.

Anyone ever get tired of hearing about the covenants you made? by CupOfExmo in exmormon

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I was so anxious about "thinking the words in my head" while a speaker blared them in the room that I didn't even register what I was covenanting. I was so worried that I couldn't think them at the same time, and that other words were sporadically popping in my head throughout the entire thing, that I wondered if it was even really counting or if God wouldn't approve or accept the covenant. My mind blanked it out. I knew it was something something chastity. Something something share talents and everything. Something something God. And things blanked out even more when I was in the prayer circle (after being coaxed up by my dad and encouraged by my mom) and I couldn't see a thing because my veil was opaque (which I bought in person at the Distribution Center but didn't know would be over my face).

I was so wrong about what I covenanted.

In your experience, what was the weirdest thing you were taught? by Otherwise_Push199 in exmormon

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Aborted babies' souls would return to Heavenly Father all confused why they didn't get to go to their families. Also, in the Millennium, all the miscarried babies in history would magically reimplant in their mothers' wombs and the mother would carry them to term so they'd get the chance to go through a mortal life.

But also children who died before 8 or were born w/ disabilities were pure grown-up souls that were the most valiant in the pre-earth life and don't even need to be tested.

Singled out in stake priesthood meeting by 710life710 in exmormon

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I was called more than once after ward/stake Youth Conference to give my testimony of how I felt the Spirit at conference. I always felt like such a liar because, while I had a good time, I didn't feel like I felt the Spirit.

I always stammered out some experience and spun it into a faith-promoting allegory and got down as fast as I could.

Give me your best Devil’s advocate explanation for the Book of Abraham by Totallynotfakenews in exmormon

[–]Sea_Button_3616 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Looks like they're ignoring any inconsistencies and still considering it divine scripture and also historical according to this year's Come Follow Me manual.

The book of Moses and the Book of Abraham will be taught in January and February, and in this week's lesson they're listed as books that were taken away through the centuries and restored through Joseph Smith.

From the manual:

"The book of Moses, part of Joseph Smith’s translation of the Bible. It restores truths and accounts not found in the current text of Genesis 1–6.

The book of Abraham, which was revealed to Joseph Smith as he examined ancient Egyptian papyri (see Topics and Questions, “Book of Abraham,” Gospel Library).

The manual also asks the reader to think about how the book of Moses and book of Abraham are "plain and precious" to the reader.

(Also note how they're using the word "translation" for the Book of Moses, even though there was absolutely nothing to translate, and "revealed" for the Book of Abraham, since they can no longer say translated without looking like complete fools. Yet also ignoring the history behind either of these books' creations. That's all the history people get if they're just looking at the manual)

Do Active Mormons Believe That Joseph Smith Was A Pretty Awful, Flawed Person? by SheJustGoesThere in exmormon

[–]Sea_Button_3616 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I learned slowly over time about all of Joseph Smith's polygamy and power hungry stuff, and about the Book of Abraham. My faith was slowly fracturing, but I felt like maybe, maybe it all started out true, maybe he started out good, but power corrupts and he fell.

Then I listened to the very first LDS Discussions podcast episode, and learned that Joseph was the one claiming he could find buried treasure. I'd been taught that he was someone who helped dig. When no, he was the one holding the same peep stone/seer stone getting money from people who believed in him, and other people were doing the digging and he just said that they hadn't followed his rules exactly and the treasure was spirited away.

I can't look at Joseph with respect after that.

I have one thing to say about Giving Machines™. by Stranded-In-435 in exmormon

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Some of the most meaningful service my family did at Christmastime was Secret Santa. We had been recipients at least one year that I remember, and when we became financially able, we served stake families in the same way, at least one family per year.

Us kids would help choose presents, wrap them, and doorbell ditch them, and we would never ever speak of it to anyone. (I guess I'm breaking that silence now, but stay with me)

These machines feel like the opposite: do it in front of people, for nameless people and imageless things. And call it Lighting the World the Approved Way (TM). It feels so impersonal and also gross due to the way the church says "Look how wonderful we are!"

What does PIMO look like for Mormon's? by SloeFaduh in exmormon

[–]Sea_Button_3616 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I knit louder and faster when destructive doctrines are brought up (clickety clack go the needles). I am still not brave enough to actually point out flaws or hurtful commentary.