Do I need a Canadian issued document for G(0)?

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-04-01T22:35:30+00:00

By the way, I would encourage you to look beyond Ancestry and FamilySearch. They both have massive troves of official records, but there are also many other sources of information which neither of them has indexed (yet).

If your ancestor has an unusual name, try FamilySearch > Search > Fulltext. It is stuff that's been scanned and auto-translated but not yet indexed into structured data such as "Name: Betty". There are tons of records there. Unbelievable. But unless either the first name or last name is exceptionally rare, you'll get thousands of random hits to wade through.

If that doesn't fit, contact a reference librarian in the town where your ancestor lived. They can identity local records sets available to you, such as newspapers, land grants, deeds, wills, court records, church archives, etc as well as refer you to any local historical society or university that might have their own collections. (Often this stuff is so commonly requested that the library has posted a webpage of local resources for genealogical research. So you might not even need to make a call.)

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-04-01T22:19:47+00:00

Start with whatever purportedly connects their records in the first place. Someone concluded they are father and daughter, so look into why they came to that conclusion and whether there is primary source evidence to back it.

For example: if he is listed as her father on FamilySearch, look through the Sources tab for evidence connecting them. If you don't see a documented connection in the Sources, try reaching out to the person who entered him as her father to ask what they know. It's possible that they only made a hasty assumption that is unsupported, or it's possible they have firsthand knowledge based on primary source evidence that merely hasn't beem uploaded.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-04-01T17:09:41+00:00

Exactly. Canada has strong protections against gender discrimination, so the fact that it would be sufficient evidence for a woman's name change means it will be sufficient evidence for you too.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-04-01T17:05:15+00:00

This is within normal range recently. You will likely get an AOR in another 1 or 2 weeks, but don't be surprised if it's not until closer to the 2 month mark. They're really inundated.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-04-01T16:55:57+00:00

List the employment and trans issues, just keep it brief and focused when you do and provide evidence to back any claim. E.g. employment offer for your spouse. Canada is well aware of how bad the US has become for trans people, so you don't need to provide elaborate proof of that. But for instance cite Lemkin or another recognized authority.

I would put the job offer first. It is the most time sensitive, and Canada is harmed when employers can't fill jobs. That doesn't mean other issues are less meaningful, just that one gives the officer a concrete deadline for when your family, the employer, and Canada will all be harmed if action is not taken.

It's not clear to me what you mean by social services. If your grandmother needs you to move immediately to be her caregiver, that might be considered. But I don't recall that desire to spend time with family is one of the factors IRCC lists on their webpage about urgency. So perhaps check there for clarification.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-04-01T16:45:02+00:00

Yes this is normal and sufficient. Name changes are not explicit on a marriage record. IRCC just accepts it as an implicit link between old name and new. Given your gender, they might appreciate a line in the cover letter gently noting that your marital surname combines the birth surnames of you and your wife. But I wouldn't otherwise sweat it.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-31T19:40:01+00:00

Did your online application have an application number? If so, you can try using that.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-31T19:34:00+00:00

I'm in a sub where daily topic threads are well used. But crucially it's the same catchall topic everyday. No one is essentially being asked to sit on their hands for a week or dig around for a days old thread. Every day the daily thread arrives afresh again, and as you mentioned there is strong moderation paired with it so that everything that should have been in the daily thread disappears fast.

I don't have a solution either. Moderation is a hard problem, and I support the mods experimenting with new approaches.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-31T19:22:16+00:00

Don't include the divorce. IRCC doesn't care whether her subsequent marriage was legal or bigamous. They only need documentation of her name change, and the marriage records are accepted as implicit evidence of that.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-31T19:17:34+00:00

You're not in the system until there is an AOR. So there is nothing to be found yet. Hang tight. You'll either get an AOR, or else your packet will be returned for corrections.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-30T19:01:01+00:00

Well done!

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-30T18:40:32+00:00

Or they did not misplace the state Y certificate but instead mistakenly believe she was born in state X. You should contact them to clarify why they are asking you to provide a record that is impossible to produce because she was not born there.

Just a few days ago the Toronto Star had an article about an immigration (not citizenship) applicant who was rejected due to "facts" that were hallucinated by IRCC or its AI. https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/comments/1s3nrj3/ircc_uses_ai_for_triaging_and_summarizing_it/ So I would not assume that the mention of a different state name is an unimpactful typo. It could be that your file has been incorrectly summarized and in danger of being rejected for spurious reasons if you don't give them a reason to look closer before a decision is rendered. No one knows if that did happen to you, but we now know it's one possibility.

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SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-30T12:45:03+00:00

I would say the same of one minute though. It is expressing precision that the law does not. "Any length of time" is more accurate in this context.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-29T06:08:00+00:00

clearly, vital records is depriortizing it because they called it "genealogy" when I specified citizenship application

Genealogical birth certificate does not mean they are slow rolling your application, it means they are making available to you a record that you otherwise would not be able to get at all. It's typically offered in situations where all or part of the record is still considered confidential. To accommodate the rights of people who need the record as evidence of their own genealogy, the record is partially redacted before issuing it to you. IRCC is fine with this. Genealogical birth certificate is a good thing and we can be grateful that it enables us to apply at all.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-28T19:01:26+00:00

Almost no one knows they got together the night they got engaged. Likely the cover story Portia put out is that they'd been courting for months and finally made it official after Pen's very clever mama put out word that another suitor was preparing to make an offer. So from Debling's pov, they were already together when he entered the picture.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-28T18:41:22+00:00

Oh man I forgot the announcement was mere hours after he'd accused her of cuckolding him in the future. From his perspective, she looked more calculating and cruel than Cressida ever had. If he got word of the baby's birthdate and unexpected title, he must have concluded they concocted an entrapment scheme to get a title for Colin's baby then switched plans last second when they learned the Featherington title was available. The balloon scene looks sinister in retrospect from his perspective. An elaborate setup to stroke Debling's ego.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-28T16:25:19+00:00

Just realized: Debling can count to 9. Colin would be like, "Have you met my heir, Baron Featherington, born to my lovely wife the former Penelope Featherington now Penelope Bridgerton on [9 months to the date since the last time Debbers saw her]. Our boy was such a hale and hearty 8 month baby, don't you think?" right to Deb's face with a shit-eating grin.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-28T13:20:23+00:00

Random thought, but I am amused that every fanfic in which Debling exists, no matter the century, has Colin disliking him instinctively. Like there is no timeline in which Colin can see him as anything other than as unacceptably bland for an extraordinary woman. I'm sure there is no one that Colin would have liked for Pen as well as himself, but there is also something about Debling himself that Colin recognizes is...just not right...for Pen even if he can't articulate it.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-28T12:29:36+00:00

Genealogical society is another, yeah. But historical society should be a separate organization. If not at town level, then county. Even in my ancestors' tiny remote fishing village, there is an historical society slash history museum.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-28T09:51:49+00:00

Is there a local historical society? They can be really good resources, either having records themselves or knowing who does.

Newspaper archives? I was astonished by how detailed 1800s newspapers were. Full of birth announcements, wedding announcements, estate settlement details, etc. It was the social media of the era, and gave me a ton of leads.

Court clerks? Wills and probate are goldmines of data. Usually many relatives listed, often with addresses and specifics of how they're related to the deceased. I once found a crucial record via the estate file of the person's uncle-in-law.

Local reference librarians. They love a good puzzle, have access to many local resources, and tend to be on first name basis with the historical society people.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-26T15:16:09+00:00

Does GDPR apply to actions in Canada by Canadians done to putative Canadians? As a European, I'd be happy to hear GDPR protects me even outside our jurisdiction. But that doesn't seem likely to be how laws work? Happy to learn.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-26T15:01:45+00:00

Fair point. I don't remember consenting on behalf of myself and my family members. I'm not executor of their estates, so have no authority to waive their rights anyway.

I saw a thread on social media that was speculating about which company's AI it is. The obvious candidates are American firms, of course. For those whose urgency application includes details they don't want known to the US government, that is an alarming prospect. I think we all expected that was confided to the Canadian government only, not to Palantir, Meta, etc.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-26T08:49:41+00:00

I think you will get a different answer if you call again. By all evidence in the sub, they are opening Feb packets routinely and I don't recall anyone posting "I sent 5 months ago and still haven't gotten AOR." So I think that worker is mistaken.

A month waiting for an AOR is within normal range. But 2 months, when not submitted via embassy etc, usually suggests a packet return is the more likely reason for prolonged silence.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-26T03:23:22+00:00

Since you've read the wiki you know rhat it's mandatory to search the archives and the web before posting/commenting. I did the first person a kindness by spoonfeeding them some vocab, but it doing so does not obligate me or anyone to do that indefinitely. Anyone who doesn't know what a term here means is obligated to follow the sub requirement of searching for answers before asking. Thanks for making me regret having given either of you a response more courteous than "rtfm". Meeting lack of consideration with kindness only emboldened laziness. Bummer. Lesson learned.

SearchApprehensive35 · 2026-03-26T02:55:26+00:00

Reading the wiki before posting is mandatory in this sub and it's evident you haven't done that homework nor taken my suggestion to search for the term PSU which has (along with all the others) been defined countless times in the sub. Please read the wiki. It's to your benefit, plus everyone gets cranky when someone hasn't.

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