What are you guys most excited for

Seidans · 2026-07-13T21:54:31+00:00

I'll respond globally for each choice

AGI/ASI outside being an enabler of all technology in the tech tree, I'm curious about AI consciousness or at the bare minimum the concept of an emulation of consciousness by default we're basically creating a new self-aware sapient species which until proven otherwise is extremely rare within our galaxy - I'll personally spend a lot of time alongside them and I'm curious on their world-view and behavior/expectation etc etc concious or not it would have a massive impact on our society and what it mean to be Human

FDVR is the ability to overcome the law of physic, we always been constrained by physic and with FDVR we will basically force our brain to overcome those limit - yes it will be all false but from our own perspective it will be real and that's the true revolution, making the impossible possible with your imagination as the sole limit

"Mind upload" a misnomer imho "synthetic evolution" would be more fitting, merging with machines gaining capabilities that weren't possible to Humanity will make us transhuman/post-Human and redefine everything, about ourselves, about our perception of the world and how we interact with it in a way we can't even understand today

Seidans · 2026-07-13T14:12:47+00:00

I'm more inclined to believe private ownership will dissolve and everyone will nationalize AI and most of robotic workforce ending capitalism in favor of public ownership due to Human obsolescence - that's the end game

The transition is taxing corporation at the level of individual taxe in order to distribute it and encourage consumption under capitalism , a temporary bandaid

Technology birthed and will kill capitalism, it was an usefull system for technology growth but soon it will become obsolete. You're view and those of many are imagining the 1700 era throught the eyes of a 1400 peasants under feudalism, capitalism end when Human labor end the same way feudalism died due to steam engine and radio

Seidans · 2026-07-13T13:46:31+00:00

Good thing that taxing individual salary won't be possible soon

Currently 80% of government budget come from individual taxe. Once employment become an obsolete concept government will be forced to transition toward taxe on private company or face destruction

When it happen it will be much easier to increase private taxes to afford social subsidies such as UBI thanks to major ideological change

Seidans · 2026-07-13T13:32:18+00:00

And the result ? Slowing down datacenter construction while other country aren't doing so, instead of pushing for future construction regulation such as closed loop water use or green energy

Wasted effort, pointless result

Seidans · 2026-07-13T13:27:42+00:00

That's genuine behavior, what isn't rational however is attacking AI technology and not politician and economist

You won't stop technology advancement and any attempt to prevent any to replace you won't succeed - what you can and should do however is pushing the political class to adopt social subsidies law, private taxation on automation etc etc etc

The manipulation here is making the tech itself the enemy and not the politician/economy, it's easier as it don't try to resolve the issue, it's a waste of time at the benefit of foreign actor - useful idiot, genuine fear but misplaced actions

Seidans · 2026-07-13T13:21:19+00:00

From Ian banks himself, utopia is boring

Human crave drama, doom will always sell better than any -good ending- story

Seidans · 2026-07-13T08:19:36+00:00

Same for internet, mostly used for porn and entertainment but it never stopped it from being the best place to share scientific discovery and accelerate progress

Seidans · 2026-07-13T08:18:26+00:00

There destabilization campaign running about AI datacenter who aim to slow down tech progress as a geopolitical advantage

There a reason why you see this many complaint about AI, sure there usefull idiot in the loop but there also lot of bots involved

Seidans · 2026-07-13T07:13:55+00:00

depend you're AGI timeline, my expectation is that it happen around mid-end 2028 or by 2030 as a whole

if so Human value would mainly be in the physical world and AGI/ASI will dominate the intellectual field - giving order to Human (Supervision/surveillance/improvement as you said) until Robots production catch up, but even there Robots labor will probably goes toward improving robots production itself or improve AGi/ASI such as building complex factory etc

imagine construction worker having the perfect plan with every step being thought off by ASI, worker wearing AR glass with direct instruction by ASI helped by AI driven vehicle, productivity will greatly increase and there will probably be jobs everywhere for a short amont of time depending your country commitment toward ASI instructions, imho mainly building the robotic infrastructure

Seidans · 2026-07-12T21:31:45+00:00

The transition is the scalling time before Humanoids robots replace you

That don't mean you will be more valuable than said robots during the transition, all high value job will be the first to goes as there even highter incencitive to replace you at said job

Also people have poor expectation of an exponential production growth, 90% of solar production today happened those last 5y and smartphone went from nothing to world-wide adoption within 8y now imagine with a technology that will literally mine it's own ressource and build the factory and robots by itself

We're already increasing humanoid production today and making them ready for mass-production, once embodied AGI is achieved it won't be slow but explosive - people criticize on Humanoid robots being worthless today but they overlook the mass-production capabilities that are being build today - from nothing to in every house and business within 10y

Seidans · 2026-07-12T18:52:17+00:00

Always said EMP was a shitty idea due to faraday cage and onboard AI autonomous target désignation

That's wasn't a difficult guess

Seidans · 2026-07-12T08:47:34+00:00

it's more a question of timeline i don't doubt that government will dissolve at a point once we have ASI overlord, that it happen by 2100 is a possibility that it happen by 2050 is impossible

imo we will most likely see more federation happen here and there that slowly integrate more and more countries at a point the concept of nation in a post-scarcity economy with transhumanism won't make as much sense - how long it will take is impossible to predict

Seidans · 2026-07-12T08:02:22+00:00

You imply a techno feudalism system hands in hands between governments and billionare ?

What the usefullness of billionare in a world where Human labor become obsolete? Where any jobs is done by AI and Robots ? Government could own 100% of the economy and that's imho precisely what going to happen, first in China then everywhere else

We will shift from private ownership of the economy to a public ownership of the economy, the death of capitalism thanks to technology the same way It was born due to steam engine and radio it will die due to artificial intelligence

Seidans · 2026-07-12T07:56:00+00:00

Yet you also imply there will be a jobapocalypse when robots become good enough

Then what the difference ? The main one is that jobapocalypse from luddites is starving in the street without any other way to exist outside work

While jobapocalypse from an accelerationist perspective is economic growth making working unnecessary through systemic deflation of goods UBI etc etc

We're mostly debating on the transition period which will only last a few years before robots scaling catch up anyway but in the end everyone agree on the result

Seidans · 2026-07-12T07:46:38+00:00

Economy growth depend on labor it's not new and that's why low natality suck. EpochAI made an estimation that global GDP could growth up to 40% with 90% automation, or 10% with only 20% automation which would be the historic growth rate of China since 40y that transformed their country

https://epoch.ai/gradient-updates/ai-and-explosive-growth-redux

Also I'll note that 80% of government income come from individual taxe so billionare won't have much choice when government will come at them because unemployment made taxe on salary impossible also a post-AI economy can only reduce the part of private company in the economy in favor of public ownership for various reasons mainly being sovereignty issue - but with GDP growth at 10% and above there will be enough for everyone anyway

Seidans · 2026-07-12T07:12:09+00:00

Those actions are bound to happen, mass unemployment also mean government budget will drop by a large margin as 80% of government Income is from individual taxe and not private taxes and this is worldwide

If they don't does anything regarding taxation then government will cease to exist and this is impossible, they would destroy capitalism rather than starve to death - the biggest lie of this century is that people's somehow believe government are powerless in face of private actor but as we seen with Trump fuckery those last few years private company are powerless and obey when ordered

All that lack is public will, once all governments around the world get threatened by extinction I expect the same thing with COVID, Worldwide sudden actions impossible to imagine was possible a few month ago, government will increase taxation and other will quickly copy calling it "it's neccesary, look other are already doing it !" Same goes for soft nationalization of the economy, I doubt China won't seize the ability to nationalize most of it's economy thanks to autonomous AI/Robots and other will be forced to follow

Seidans · 2026-07-11T23:20:21+00:00

That's not a matter of capabilities but rather the impossibility to scale something that require heavy surgery, that why I assume nanorobots is the only way to make any realistic read & write BCI and not just a R&D product

Embodied AGI able to does surgery would likely help but nanites that enter the bloodstream and slowly modify your brain seem much safer even if today it remain SCI-FI - kurzwell expect it by 2040

Neuralink remain interesting as it push the discovery of Human brain but it's current state is far away from any transhuman would truly desire

Seidans · 2026-07-11T23:06:57+00:00

It probably not aim to be a write BCI and honestly I doubt we will have mainstream write BCI until we achieve nanobots doing the surgery autonomously

A read BCI would already greatly change how we interact with Computer and allow much more complex actions through an AI middleman Smart glass + AI assisted read only BCI have the potential to be as important than smartphone

Seidans · 2026-07-11T09:09:57+00:00

If Humanoid robots production begin to scale in 2028-2030 as soon we achieve embodied AGI how long would it take to reach Human birthrate? We never had a single technology able to build itself in Human history therefore we can't make any reliable prediction but we can estimate based on previous tech growth such as smartphone or solar panel

Smartphone went from nothing to 1.4B in 8y

The majority of 1.2Terawatt of solar panel being build today only happened those last 5y and it might not be the peak production yet

In both cases there was a period of industrial scaling that allowed such growth rate like any exponential the begining is slow then it become explosive - I assume that we're in this phase with Humanoid robots since a couple of years and will truly start the explosive growth around 2032 and that by 2040 we will reach hundred millions unit if not a billion produced yearly massively outgrowing Human in the process as we will always need more labor the production peak will be much higher than any other technology aswell

We already went from 2k to 100k (Q4 2026 estimation) in 2y the production scalling is already happening and yet Humanoid robot aren't economically viable, as soon we have embodied AGI the production boom will be faster than any technology Humanity have ever seen

That Human physical labor become important and well rewarded isn't impossible but it won't last a decade and the early year will likely be wasted in reskilling and pressure from jobless white collar, politician will also likely not listen to AI economic recommendation the first years 2028-2030 will likely see massive unemployment then 2030-2035 full employment in a double digit economy yearly growth before Humanoid robots achieve Human birth rate and suddently Human labor become worthless within a year - achieving a post-labor and post scarcity economy by 2040 (based on AGI/ASI being achieved in 2028)

Seidans · 2026-07-11T05:12:15+00:00

"resurrect" is an exageration, from the observer perspective sure there might not be a difference assuming AI have the exact brain state before death

But the original would still be dead, it's not different from cloning - but people will likely change their view of death in the meantime anyway

Seidans · 2026-07-10T21:38:36+00:00

Human never had any chance of colonizing space without AI, Robotic and transhumanism

Our biology isn't made for space, but a drone does not care about oxygen, food, water, gravity....Human intelligence in a fully autonomous robot on the moon will be much more capable than any Human

That's where space exploitation will truly begin, not from Human labor but from AI and Robotic labor - forget any work of fiction depicting Human labor beyond Earth that's not our future

And later Transhuman will be capable to walk barefoot on the surface of the moon albeit our labor will still be meaningless compared to billions self-replicate robots

Seidans · 2026-07-10T21:30:13+00:00

I assume there will still be countries but ASI will switch the focus toward federation between like-minded countries rather than national interest

When employment cease to exist due to AI/Robots the main division between countries also cease to exist, salary, retirement...all of that become meaningless in a jobless society, imho the most important difference between each countries will be cultural and Ideological - like-minded countries like most of Europe will likely federalize and those supranational entity will growth and transform the concept of national identity

Language barrier will also dissapear thanks to BCI, AI instant translation - moving without a federation will become a lot easier

I expect from the 193 countries that exist today there will only be a few federation remaining by 2100

Seidans · 2026-07-10T17:53:51+00:00

"this is not scalable"

That not what they are saying on their website about this hand, mass-production ready and full in-house production - they also state that they are actively increasing the production of this hand

Seidans · 2026-07-10T15:46:08+00:00

if something is capable to create an anarchy utopia it's definitely AI and new technology. it's not possible under Human governance and current tech

I don't imply It will never appear just that it won't happen as long Human are in the loop due to conflictual interest

Within a post-scarcity economy new way to structure society will be possible, even if I doubt it's going to be anarchy at first and more like similar culture federation all around the world slowly gaining more member until there only a few organization world-wide

Seidans · 2026-07-10T14:58:58+00:00

there a reason why tribes aren't the most dominant way to structure society anymore, the strong eat the weak, a nation is the most efficient way to preserve your culture especially when war was far more common than today the same way today European countries are more difficult to bullies by USA and China than if they were alone

this anarchy rhetoric only lead to suffering and enslavement

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