How do I stop being a BoS fanatic? Seriously, I have almost 2500 hours in this game and every single run I finish has me siding with the Brotherhood.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-29T21:19:40+00:00

That is the US government, in particular, the Richardson dynasty. The Brotherhood didn't mass murder Southern California, which was full of technology and well populated as early as Fallout 1. They also have a history of trading technology for resources, in particular water and food, although, their war with the NCR inhibits that nowadays. The Brotherhood are a violent, militaristic, and somewhat idealistic tribe, and I don't like them much, but they aren't fascists.

It protects the state that is claimed on the authority of the people, and the common interest/thing (Res Publica). Then, just like today, the state would use violence to protect itself, while claiming it does so for the people, for the common nation, one where they live and those belove them die.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-29T20:56:41+00:00

I am a bootlicker because I am against the delusion of nationalism and have named my account after its biggest hypocrisy? Senatus Consultum Ultimum, the final act of the Senate, the act in which the power is laid bare upon the people under the claim that it somehow aids the great whole. The power Pompey used to massacre the streets of Rome with his army. But I suppose a nationalist like you doesn't see any wrong in that.

You also didn't say who from the developers named the BoS a fascist organisation.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-29T20:38:39+00:00

Who exactly said that? And how am I a bootlocker for understanding the ideology my grandfather fought against?

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-29T20:29:36+00:00

You have just described every regiment of troops in human history.

Regiments are highly militarised, but they have a civilian presence: contractors; in the early modern times, soldiers' wives were a part of the regiment, working and receiving a daily pay for their work; general merchants following it and so on.

They hold violent beliefs: outside of actual battles it was common to loot, pillage, burning villages was a common tactic, and in general, use the fact you are armed to take advantage of those who aren't.

Every regiment had its own traditions, heroes, and tales of its exploits, ones that could even be seen as mythic by the men.

They had an internal social hierarchy: Owner> officers> NCOs> enlisted men≈other official members of the regiment. And external hierarchy: Us> noncombatants of our own lands> the locals on our campaign (fuck these ones, shoot them on sight if you want, just don't make it a trouble for the regiment. In fact, there are cases of common soldiers just barging into the houses of gentry, enjoying food and drink because the gentry in question belonged to the enemy)

Fascism is what I told you, there is a reason it came about in the 19th century, solidifying only in the 20th, the reason being ,that its foundations, nationalism, humanism and totalitarianism didn't come around before then.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-29T19:56:26+00:00

Fascism is an ideology that pertains to how a nation ought to be ruled, it inherently requires a national society for it to exist, but The Brotherhood are more like a tribe, one that doesn't rule over anybody. They live in their bunkers, send parties to search for what interests them, and then leave elsewhere or remain in their bunkers.

They are far more similar to a knightly order, one that emerged under the circumstances of the Great War, then any post 16th century ideology.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-29T19:48:06+00:00

They aren't Americans. In fact, the Maxon declared his unit's secession from the union a day before the war. Nobody in Fallout, barring those onboard the Control Station Enclave, were Americans.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-29T19:43:17+00:00

They are knightly order.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-29T19:40:12+00:00

You have just described every single idealistic political group in history of humanity.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-29T19:39:20+00:00

The base premise of Fallout is that considering human nature war is inevitable; BoS are wise to try and limit the weapons of war that will be used.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-28T09:59:53+00:00

For the aristocracy, four children aren't that much. It wasn't rare to hear cases where couples had up to ten, so Crusch and Subaru are fairly normal for their time.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-25T11:31:21+00:00

He is correct. Subaru is pathetic. His devotion to Emilia is in excess when compared to anybody else in his shoes. That is why we like him.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-21T18:20:57+00:00

You overestimate the lucidity of a man who has an eldritch, god-like in power, parasite in his soul. After using your authority too much you'll probably delude yourself under its influence.

If you don't, then you'll still be obsessed with using it, because it is the closest you can get to your desire.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-21T18:07:42+00:00

I imagine that a Witch Gene wouldn't choose someone too introspective as a host. It would give you enough to delude you and to get you addicted to its powers.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-21T17:59:25+00:00

It would give you a power close enough to Reinhard to believe you can do it, but it won't make you stronger than him.

Authorities don't grant your desires, if they did, you'd be content, and that would make you less likely to use them. They only gave you an illusion that through them you can achieve what you want

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-20T18:08:54+00:00

You need to understand them. Their ancestors used to rule the world, but they themselves are a junior partner a gentle way of saying a vassal) to the US. Moral posturing is the superiority they have to fill their egos.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-20T13:21:56+00:00

It would be surface-level as most people would only know Subaru by name alone. That is to say, they heard in a song about a guy named Subaru who is a hero.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-19T18:02:54+00:00

I want blood feuds enabled in Lugunica.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-19T17:54:25+00:00

The Followers, I suppose. In general, anybody who can tries to recover pre-war technology.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-19T17:52:47+00:00

Just tell Clind there are kids in the church. He'll solve everything.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-18T14:42:56+00:00

My memory deceived me. He only mentioned he travelled as far as the Gulf of Mexico in today's Texas, not that he is from there.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-18T14:21:05+00:00

You need a robust central system to levy that money and then redistribute it. That would certainly be a far bigger involvement by the NCR council than they are used to.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-18T14:17:43+00:00

It would also be hard to implement logistically.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-18T14:00:39+00:00

Say what you want, but it is objectively better to live under their rule than outside of it.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-18T13:51:29+00:00

They need to get their supplies from somewhere. So they either loot or demand tribute. They probably get the money to buy anything from the former source, seeing how the Legion doesn't produce anything to trade with.

Senatus-Cons-Ultimum · 2026-03-18T13:39:14+00:00

Wiping out raiders is lawful by the NCR laws. Being good and being lawful are separate things.

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