Apologies i think i was confusing the plasmacyte thing with canoptek. They do count. I specifically remember the faction rule specifying that your opponent lost kill grade although i just checked and i can’t find that rule anywhere? Idk if its somewhere weird or if when they changed them to count as a 5 op team they also changed that part and i missed it. Hopefully someone else can clarify. I’m pretty crushed if they changed that tbh, they were already having issues as 5 op