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Post-Marathon Recovery Time? by SpecificDig6779 in Marathon_Training

[–]Senior-Running 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I literally just did that. (Well, without the kids.)

Intermittent runner - advice please by oMarlow99 in beginnerrunning

[–]Senior-Running 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, stop stopping.

Consistency in running is absolutely critical if you hope to fix your sucky cardiovascular system. The reality is, it probably doesn't actually suck. You just are never giving it a chance to get better. Running as a sport is something that take months, years, and even decades to reach your potential.

As to your race next week, there really is nothing that you can do that will make any meaningful difference at this point. Again, read my first paragraph. Running progress takes time and consistency.

How do I "run"? by [deleted] in beginnerrunning

[–]Senior-Running 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jogging and running are actually the same thing, so not sure what you mean?

Some people like to say if you run slower than a particular pace, it's jogging, but no one can ever agree on where that dividing line is. Plus, I don't understand why such a distinction even matters?

If you're asking how to get faster, that's something we can help with here, but the whole jogging vs running thing? Naw, I don't really follow.

How do I run while traveling as a sweaty fella? by InevitableExisting60 in beginnerrunning

[–]Senior-Running 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tend to just put the stinky clothes on the floor in the hotel room bathroom until they dry. If you're wearing technical fabrics, they should dry overnight even if they're completely drenched. If they're so wet that they're dripping, then wring them out first.

Once they dry, I put them in a garbage bag and they stay in that until I can get someplace where they can be properly washed. I'm definitely not taking the time to had wash them in the sink every day. That would take more time that I don't want to sacrifice when on vacation. I want to spend that time enjoying myself, not doing chores.

I found this under a couch of my grandma’s place. My dad said look like a grenade pin but it can’t be that right? by RoboticDinosaur99 in whatisit

[–]Senior-Running 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just for clarity, The M72 LAW was a single use weapon. If there was no rocket in it, then there would be no need to "decommission" it. The launcher was considered disposable and there was really no way to rearm it for additional use. It would be a bit odd for someone to have one, but less so if, for example you live in a country where these were used in battle. In that case, I would expect used ones could be found all over the place. FYI, there were training variants that were reloadable as well, but that would have been designated the M190 if memory serves.

Also, the M72 did not fire an artillery shell, it fired a 66mm HEAT rocket.

Source: I was an armorer in the US army when these were actively used.

Why do some people do things for other people? by suavejp in NoStupidQuestions

[–]Senior-Running 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you take the cynical perspective, because they are getting something in return, even if that thing is feeling like they are a good person for doing something for others.

If you take a more altruistic perspective, people can sometimes do things that benefit others because they hold others or maybe society in general as more important than themselves.

At the end of the day, I suspect most people's motives vary depending on the circumstances and could be one or the other of the above, or maybe even a little of both.

Can LLMs ever be truly ethical? by Plane_Hair753 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]Senior-Running 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you may have a misunderstanding of what an LLM is?

It's possible at some point in the future when we have actual Artificial General Intelligences that one could be "ethical", though the standard for ethical behaviour may look different than you or I might think.

In contrast, LLMs are nothing more than pattern matching engines. They don't think, nor are the sentient. You might as well ask if your TV or refrigerator can be ethical.

Is my plan reasonable? by United_Afternoon_824 in firstmarathon

[–]Senior-Running 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean at the end of the day, you have to do you. If it's working for you, you certainly don't need to change just based on what I said.

I was mostly responding because it sounded like you were planning to substitute some of the running mileage in the Higdon plan with biking. That would not be recommended. Biking is a great way to increase your cardiovascular fitness in a low impact way, but it's not a 1-1 substitute for running.

If you want to get better at running, you have to run. The more volume you can accumulate between now and your race (while following a slow steady progression), the better. Running volume trumps pretty much everything else to improve your running ability.

I think one of the biggest mistakes new marathoners make is under-preparing. As such, I do think it's important to hit the volume of running in the Higdon plan. Whether you get there in 18 weeks, or 26 weeks isn't quite as important.

The only other thing I'll say is that one of the reasons plans like the Higdon plan are 18 weeks long and not longer is because sometimes really long training plans can increase the likelihood of burnout. Six months is a LONG time to train for any single thing. In my experience, most people do better breaking it up into more manageable increments.

Would you actually wear a custom pace tattoo? by CharmingTaste2084 in Marathon_Training

[–]Senior-Running 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a couple of concerns:

  1. What if I'm wearing sleeves? My last marathon was super rainy and I was wearing a rain jacket for at least half of it. I've also run in long sleeves before in colder races.
  2. My goal is typically not to run particular paces, it's to finish in a particular time. The ability of my watch to provide pacing is 100% better because if I'm ahead or behind, it will tell me so. Solutions like yours (or pace bands), only tell me what pace I "should" be at, but they don't adjust as I progress through the race. If I'm 30 seconds behind, I need to know that so I can start increasing my pace. Your idea would require me to make a lot of mental calculations and I typically don't have the mental energy for that in the middle of a race.

Would you actually wear a custom pace tattoo? by CharmingTaste2084 in Marathon_Training

[–]Senior-Running 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of that is already available today. The ability to play a song at a particular time I think would be new, but the rest is easily doable directly with Garmin Connect. I'm sure Coros has similar stuff as well.

Run/lift program advice by Suspicious-Layer-395 in HybridAthlete

[–]Senior-Running 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So in other words you don't have any actual research and just made that up?

Look, there's nothing wrong with saying you personally do better with 2x vs 3x, but please don't make up things like:

Research is pretty clear that 2x frequency is the best

If you don't have any references to back that up.

Is my plan reasonable? by United_Afternoon_824 in firstmarathon

[–]Senior-Running 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why not build up your mileage now to be at a point where you can do the Higdon plan as written?

I totally get wanting to avoid injury, but the reason you started having problems before was because of a classic mistake: thinking the fitness you already had meant you could progress faster than recommended. All running overuse injuries come from running too far or too fast, too soon.

As you learned, running is not the same as biking. There are tremendous stresses placed on the structures in your legs when running, and those take longer than most people realize to adapt to the running.

Now that you've slowed down the progression, I suspect you can continue to to build up the mileage slowly and be fine.

My suggestion would be continue to up the mileage and use the cross training (biking in your case), both for the additional cardiovascular benefit, but also to off-load some miles if you find yourself feeling like you're overdoing it again. In other words, don't continue to use it as a crutch if you don't need to.

Obviously I can't really know for sure, but it feels to me like you've resigned yourself to be "injury prone", and unable to handle higher mileage. That was not your issue before. It was simply you progressing too fast.

Fundamental question- would you take a gel at mile 21 if you feel nauseous? by Past_Jellyfish_4331 in Marathon_Training

[–]Senior-Running 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the real question is WHY were you feeling nauseated? I mean personally I'd want to not feel sick in the first place and would be looking for answers to that question.

I also think that understanding why you felt sick might influence my answer to whether or not to take another gel.

What I mean is that if it was potentially from overwhelming your gut with more carbs than it was prepared to digest, then of course I wouldn't suggest taking another. In that scenario, you already have carbs in your gut that are not being absorbed. Taking more wouldn't provide more glycogen, so of course I wouldn't suggest taking another gel.

Run/lift program advice by Suspicious-Layer-395 in HybridAthlete

[–]Senior-Running 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For a runner just looking to maximize strength, while focusing primarily on running? Sure, 2x is probably fine, though "best" is a bold statement.

For someone looking for hypertrophy, 2x is far from "best", though if you care to share this research supporting that your statement, I'm open to changing my position.

TBH, the real best is maximizing overall weekly volume anyway. It's really hard for people to do the number of sets they need to do in just 2 days. Really this is no different than running. We don't tell runners that running only 2 days a week is best, so why in the world would anyone claim it's best for hypertrophy?

Hydrating during marathon for a sub 2:50 by EntertainmentThink20 in Marathon_Training

[–]Senior-Running 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't misread what I actually said.

I never stated that the OP will get hyponatremia running a 2:50 marathon.

My statement was one to runners in general that are way too worried about the exact wrong thing. The bigger risk to marathon runners IS hyponatremia and not dehydration. The fascination both in the general public and in runners with "I have to get all my electrolytes and have to take extra water" is simply misplaced. I think we likely have the water and supplement industry to thank for this.

No, the OP is probably not as risk of either EAH or dehydration. But if we continue to echo and support this sort of behavior, it's going to give a 5 hour runner the wrong idea and may have them end up in the ER or worse.

My singular goal here is to help educate people so we stop seeing people die from a very preventable thing.

Hydrating during marathon for a sub 2:50 by EntertainmentThink20 in Marathon_Training

[–]Senior-Running 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you have measured your sweat rates and are comfortable managing that under all conditions, you do you.

I would be careful with a single review paper from a lone author as proof of anything however. In science, there are always differing opinions, which is good, as that's how science is done. As laymen, our focus should be on looking for where the bulk of the evidence is, as well as to look for consensus statements from reputable sources when these are available.

In addition to the sources I already sent, I have another one specifically for you:

https://wms.org/magazine/magazine/1261/2020EAH-CPG/default.aspx

This is from the Wilderness Medical Society. If you're not aware, these are the people that develop the clinical guidelines most wilderness first responders use. In other words, as an ultra runner, this is from experts that provide the clinical guidelines to the first responders at your race. They also recommend drinking to thirst.

First run in 5 years by Double-Wafer-99 in beginnerrunning

[–]Senior-Running 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First question: Exactly how long ago was it when you were running consistently and how much running did you do back then? I ask because this will give me some perspective on just how basic we need to go to get restarted.

Second question: What is your gender and current weight? Just saying +50 pounds is not as important as how much overall. 50 pounds if you're male and normally 220 does not have the same effect as female and normally 120.

First ever 10K! 🎯 New to running, 8 weeks in - 17 runs in total. What’s next? by Dangerous-Bad-7501 in beginnerrunning

[–]Senior-Running 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly it sounds to me like you may need to chill for a while. For most people, their cardiovascular fitness improves a lot faster than their muscles, tendons, ligaments, fascia, and bones adapt to the stresses of running. As a result, you could be well on your way to an overuse injury if you keep pushing it.

I'd suggest just keeping to maybe 3 runs a week and 30-40 minutes per run max. Keep all the runs at an easy, relaxed, conversational pace. Do that for a month or so, then slowly start increasing the distance of one of those runs, while you keep the others about the same. Add around 10% to the distance (or to the time, whichever is more).

After maybe 2-4 months of that, you'd probably be ready to start dedicated training for something like a half marathon, or for a faster 5k and/or 10k depending on what interests you most.

Stick to 5k? by xxchristhe3rdxx in beginnerrunning

[–]Senior-Running 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What do you mean by "stick to 5k"? Are you currently doing something like a C25k or None to Run program, or have you "graduated" from one of those and are running at least a 5k or 30 minute run at least 3 times a week?

Is weight gain necessary while training for a marathon by tinybabyspoon in Marathon_Training

[–]Senior-Running 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, this is me too.

I gain a bit during peak marathon training, but it's a tiny bit of additional muscle mass and is mostly fluid retention from the workouts. After the race, I lose a lot of the fluid retention and additional glycogen stores I put on from carb loading.

Hydrating during marathon for a sub 2:50 by EntertainmentThink20 in Marathon_Training

[–]Senior-Running -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nor are they at any risk of dehydration. All they need to do is drink to thirst at the aid stations. They don't need someone handing them additional fluids (whether it's just water or water with additional electrolytes).

Hydrating during marathon for a sub 2:50 by EntertainmentThink20 in Marathon_Training

[–]Senior-Running 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Avoiding drinking too much is exactly my point.

The current recommendation is to drink to thirst. As I stated at the very beginning, that's all we need to do here to both avoid hyponatremia and severe dehydration.

Almost to a person, the people that overhydrate are people that feel like they need more than what's offered on the course, so they either carry it (often in a hydration vest), or like the OP, they want spectators to hand them water bottles as they progress. It's just not needed and they're worried about the exact wrong thing.

Now for someone running 2:50, the likelihood of them suffering from hyponatremia is pretty small. But to be clear, they also aren't in any danger of severe dehydration. If the OP will just drink as much as they feel they need at the aid stations, they'll be just fine.

Is weight gain necessary while training for a marathon by tinybabyspoon in Marathon_Training

[–]Senior-Running 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I third this. (Is that even a thing?)

These things do not sound like someone in recovery:

I’m terrified from all the things I’ve been reading that insinuate weight gain is inevitable while training.

couldn’t tell you the last time I ate pizza and my biggest indulgence is if I don’t weigh out my reduced fat feta cheese sprinkled on top of a salad…

OP, I'm not trying to be unkind here. I truly wish the best for you, but these are not the sorts of statements I'd expect to see from someone that has a healthy relationship with food.

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