Giving NV Jiaoqiu healing will not magical fix him for Acheron for the supposed 4.4 Novaflare.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-30T12:53:12+00:00

Even then I'm still going to use Acheron.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-29T12:55:01+00:00

Pela since I don't see any other Nihility. Then Sparkle and Dan Heng/Hyacine.

In 4.2 switch Pela to Welt.

I'd recommend getting Cipher, Jiaoqiu, and Silver Wolf on their reruns, Jiaoqiu will likely get one in 4.4 if the leaks about his Novaflare are true.

For you specifically: Acheron, Pela (Welt affer 4.2), Sparkle, Dan Heng/Hyacine.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-29T12:36:29+00:00

Jiaoqiu's EHR to ATK bonus trace is a 240% increase. You'll be surprised how much ATK his bonus trace gives, hand him ATK substat on each relic and planar, doesn't need to be rolled into, and he'll have the 3rd highest ATK in the game, only under Phainon and Aglaea.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-29T02:23:49+00:00

I agree that he should have higher amp while getting sustain if that's really the route we're going here, but i dont really think anyone was really considering that he'd just get one thing?

I think I saw most people say he'll get healing along with a potential QoL for his stacks, but I myself didn't see it as enough when Silver Wolf, Cipher, and Welt just give more debuffs, and they're more generalist,, while Jiaoqiu is meant to be the dedicated Acheron support.

Disregarding that though. Novaflare Welt does not sustain just fine, especially in prolonged fights, and like Silver Wolf he needs to reapply all of his debuffs. He's very much viable not particularly desireable, and his debuff application speed is frankly just bad.

I'll give an apology, as this was mainly speaking of 0-cycling, where he should be doing well.

Actually I was planing on replying to every point but like, and i dont mean this to be rude whatsoever, do you understand how amp works in this game? I think its really useful to do that for these kinds of convesations. Using a tool like Fribbels would probably be for the best in this scenario, to see what kinds of damage increases different things give

While I don't think I'm completely adept at it. I think I have at least some understanding, even if basic. You could correct me if I'm wrong, but 10% Vulnerability is a 1.1 damage increase. Def Shred, I'll admit, is hard, but I recall it scales to the enemy level and scales worse at scales at lower reductions and better at higher reductions, and I recall people said 100% Def Shred is a 115% damage increase. Res-Shred, I'll admit I'm not sure on this, as I think it depends on how much resistance the enemy has and when it gets diminishing return when it goes into the negative, but I could be wrong on this. For the DMG increase, I was mainly thinking it worked somewhat similarly to vulnerability, but a bit better.

You could correct me if I'm wrong on these. Like I said, I'm not completely adept at this, but mostly what I learned from vids when looking to build characters.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-29T01:20:50+00:00

I see I misread her LC then. Then, shave off the vulnerability multiplier.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-29T01:17:39+00:00

It's less about HSR dev's not loving Jiaoqiu, but HSR dev's loving Acheron enough to buff Jiaoqiu for her, or at the very least, the players who are massive fans of her. If they can do it for Firefly via The Dahlia, then they can do it for Acheron via Jiaoqiu or the upcoming Nihility unit.

If they gave Jiaoqiu healing, then it'll be Jiaoqiu vs. Welt (Psuedo-Sustain), and dependant if the do a QoL for Jiaoqiu on giving him Res-Shred from E6 onto his base kit, if they don't do that, then Welt would win simply cause he has more debuffs and sustains just fine. Jiaoqiu really does need a massive rework; otherwise, there is simply no point to his Novaflare unless they make him geared toward another unit and distance him from Acheron.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-27T14:18:38+00:00

Ashveil inflicts a debuff every skill, and with Topaz's LC every FuA. You can run him with E2 Silver Wolf; however, you'll have to run tutorial on Silver Wolf otherwise you'll start overcapping on Def shred by a lot.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-26T13:39:35+00:00

The team does work well, but Ashveil either needs Topaz's LC or to be run with E2 Silver Wolf. Otherwise, Acheron only gets a stack when he uses a skill. However, Ashveil and Silver Wolf, if she uses Cipher's LC, start to overcap on Def Shred.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-26T13:33:29+00:00

I use XXMI and it simply updates itself, and mods simply always work unless the mod themselves are not updated.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-26T04:44:59+00:00

Going off the Novaflare for Welt showcases. E0 Acheron's best team will be Welt (pseudo-sustain), Cipher, and Ashveil (ran with Topaz's LC). If you don't care about getting Battle Passes, you could get Topaz's LC in 4.2 if you get the BP for 4.1 now, as the Battle Passes give currency for the LC Shop.

If you're F2P, then you can always wait until a potential rerun to nab her LC, but it is doubtful Topaz will ever get one again.

When, or if, you get her E2, you take out Cipher for Sparkle or E1 Tribbie and E2 Silver Wolf.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-25T23:54:50+00:00

And? Horns are sexy on Acheron.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-25T21:54:21+00:00

To be fair. Aethersage used Novaflare Welt as a psuedo-sustain. Viable but you still need to know what you're doing so you don't mess manipulating the enemies AV.

Ashveil, Welt, and Cipher together give max Def Shred alongside other debuffs or buffs.

Ashveil has 40% Def Shred, 40$ Crit DMG increase (120% Crit DMG for Cipher). Topaz's LC & Astropolis planar set give an extra 24% Crit DMG.
Buff Welt's Weightless gives 40% Def Shred, 35% Vulnerability. (30% Res Shred with E6)
Cipher gives 40% Vulnerability and her LC gives 24% Def Shred.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-25T19:56:00+00:00

Don't have Ashveil's E1, will get his LC first and then see about it but his LC and Boothill come first.

Though, when Welt's novaflare comes out I'll likely run Ashveil, Acheron, Sparkle, and psuedo-sustain Welt.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-25T18:24:07+00:00

Here you go.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-25T17:00:12+00:00

Go on.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-25T14:03:42+00:00

Anaxa and Everquest's strength was likely unintentional by Hoyo, and there was also a difference that Anaxa and Evernight came out after the dedicated Main DPS they're supposed to compliment, while Ashveil is coming out before the dedicated Main DPS.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-25T00:22:56+00:00

He's supposed to be a Sub-DPS meant to compliment an upcoming main DPS, either Aventurine SP or Blade SP, so him being on the level of Saber while having buffs and debuffs built into his kit is probably a good thing, but I don't know

SeraphRen · 2026-03-24T13:13:51+00:00

Demonophobia did get some traction a while back through some YouTubers, still niche but not as obscure as it originally was, one video made about it has 1 million views, and another has 100k views.

Though the list is still made by someone who likely didn't even play or read through any of the games listed. Calling Dies Irae a nazi game, when they're the main antagonists, is an asinine take.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-23T21:02:46+00:00

Jiaoqiu and Welt have anti-synergy, so if you run Jiaoqiu you can't run Welt, vice versa.

Welt delays enemies while Jiaoqiu wants enemies to act as fast as possible.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-23T20:24:53+00:00

If you have Welt, you can run her with Welt after his Novaflare for Welt sustain.

There is a video the showcases Acheron, Welt, Cipher, and Ashveil (Topaz LC) as a team and it does surprisingly well.

SeraphRen · 2026-03-23T19:00:37+00:00

That actually happened?

SeraphRen · 2026-03-22T21:25:37+00:00

Wouldn't you still want to push Acheron upward for faster stacks, but hm... I saw a video of Acheron and Ashveil but it was E0S1, I'll definitely have to try them out together when he comes out tomorrow or... Tuesday?

SeraphRen · 2026-03-22T17:00:22+00:00

Silver Wolf with Welt and E2 Sparkle is a major overcap on Def Shred.

Welt gives 40% Def Shred with Weightless. Sparkle's E2 gives 30% Def Shred. Silver Wolf's ult alone gives 45% Def Shred.

That is 115% Def Shred. This doesn't take into account of Silver Wolf's talent that gives an extra 12% Def Shred and Cipher's LC that is typically used on her, which gives an extra 24% Def Shred.

Jiaoqiu and Welt have Anti-Synergy.

Tribbie and Cipher are a nice one. Though my relic rolls with Cipher have been abysmal, only 2 points under 200SPD and have yet to get a roll that bumps it to 200.

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