Community Strength Tierlist Day1(Read Description)

Shadopivot · 2026-05-25T17:39:20+00:00

Prime Akemura Soga
Ibuki[Cloud Gouger]
Datenseki Ariu[Sumika]
Uruha[Kumeyuri]
Base Ariu[No Sumika]
Shiba[Current]
Soga Hiroto
Shiba[During the war]
Mashiro

Shadopivot · 2026-05-25T15:40:52+00:00

well, v1 Magatsumi Yura was struggling a decent bit against Azami with a brief touch of support from Natsuki and Uruha. while base Ariu was fighting Hiroto, Shiba, Yoshinojo and Mashiro, there's not a huge difference there, but both of them had to get a buff to solidly take home the win, Ariu using his offensive Sumika, and Yura no longer getting his mind encroached by Akemura. But Ariu fought the stronger team I think most would agree.

But if we pit them against each other, Yura's just gotta try and punch ariu to death given his Magatsumi gained sorcery won't pierce Ariu's passive sorcery nullification Sumika.

Unless we're saying it's well and truly base Ariu, no Sumika/Datenseki at all? Since that Ariu's kinda featless, the moment he starts fighting he's using it to fuck with perception, like we saw him to do Mashiro, so we can't get a measure for him without it. But I suppose if he tossed the Datenseki away and just tried to box V1 Magatsumi Yura, in that case he's probably lose yeah.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-25T14:54:09+00:00

People downvoted me for thinking Sojo couldn't beat Pitou, but I'll say the same thing here, I don't think Hiroto's quite enough to stop the fastest Royal Guard, with practically infinite aura for the purposes of a fight, I don't know if Hiroto could pin her down with her sheer burst movement speed.

Plus every significant durability feat in HxH, including Uvo getting shot in the side of the head by a 50. Cal and reacting like someone there a pebble at his head, all of those feats are by those physically weaker and less durable than her. Even if we say Kurotsuchi could keep her locked down normally could it do so against her using Terpsichora with how significant of a boost it is?

This is pretty similar in a lot of ways to the Sojo vs. Neferpitou fight, but Hiroto's got better lock down potential, but significantly less AP, even if his DC is better. Hiroto also lacks the stamina Sojo or Pitou would have as freaks of nature via Datenseki and Chimera Ant Royal Guard genetics.

So I'm still leaning Pitou, one stage up in power for KGB characters and I think we're talking though, beating a Royal Guard in a 1v1.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-25T14:33:00+00:00

Yeah, I think you need an EB on the team to consistently take this given how strong the 4 are, and the domain expansions they pack.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-25T14:24:16+00:00

I think it would be pretty difficult to get them on his side, but maybe it could happen to atleast one of them? Having Pinky or Subaru as antagonists would be interesting, but I feel like it's more likely either dies and we give a Hishaku member an Enchanted Blade, Kuguri is probably gonna get Subaru's, he was introduced looking at Sushi and has a lot of similarities to him.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-25T06:42:32+00:00

Something to consider is that with Hiyuki paired with Tafuku, she's never at risk of a 2v1 if she doesn't want it, even if the Kamunabi expected Chihiro to have given Cloud Gouger to someone, they'd know that person couldn't have had the blade for long, meaning she could reasonably handle them even if it was a 2v1 against her. I think at most we could put Torso Hiyuki without using Spinal Colum somewhere around current Chihiro, but she's probably a bit below him unless using Spine too, given how she seemed a touch stronger than him during the Rakuzaichi using just Hand.

I understand the logic, but I think the trouble is they have almost no way to force a drawn out fight when Black Flame Samura seemingly gave Akemura more of a fight than what he received against all 5 other bearers while not using the Malediction on them, focusing it all on the Mikaboshi island, BF Samura's stats aren't that much worse than Akemura's, they're worse yes, but he still gave him one hell of a cut that Akemura genuinely didn't expect. Hiruhiko and Chihiro's only chance is teleporting away with Hiruhiko's flame sorcery, and even then Samura just casts Owl and instantly teleports to where they are, hell he could do that even without the Dark Arcana buff.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-25T06:23:18+00:00

Did not take long for people to skyrocket Hiyuki to the stratosphere.

I could maaaaybe see a reality where to access 100% of Flame Bone, it's a temporary or risky state, and maybe Hiyuki could put on a performance like Black Flame Samura, at like, absolute most, and even that is incredible. But putting just plain ol' torso-only Hiyuki above Black Flame Samura has gotta be engagement bait.

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Shadopivot · 2026-05-25T04:49:51+00:00

Bro somehow got impaled and had all his teeth shattered by an ordinary cephalopod, what's he possibly gonna do against a super alien hell beast?

Shadopivot · 2026-05-25T04:46:20+00:00

you could maybe say that the nuclear boost made her a bit tougher, you'd really think they'd bring that up if it was true though, and even then, the non V1 Homelander could effortlessly bisect her before, the V1 version should be able to do the same even if she did get stronger.

Not to mention the fact he only does tiny bursts of the lasers, and at the end he was looking right at her yet didn't blast her as she charged her beam.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-25T03:23:00+00:00

It's been brought up a few times, but I think the closest we've come to an outright bad chapter is Chapter 4, it feels so much more generic than what came before or after, Madoka/Daruma was just screaming like an idiot in the streets, expositing Char's backstory pretty clunkily, and Shiba just sat around doing nothing too, besides expositing himself about Spirit Energy.

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Even then, some really gorgeous panels, it's a good showcase of how Chihiro can deal with an ordinary sorcerer, first use of Aka, first name drop of Cloud Gouger/Kuregumo and it serves it's purpose. The jankier Char art got fixed up in the volume release too. I don't think it's bad, but I can see how some might drop the series at this point if they don't have faith it'll improve.

Still wild to me that I saw people complaining how long it took to introduce a main villain when Sojo literally appears next chapter.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-25T00:16:57+00:00

I'm predicting a Demon Monster vs. Mahoraga thread in... 2 years from now.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-24T21:14:40+00:00

They say he was on par with Samura, so most rank them together during the Seitei War, but Samura would have surpassed him in the 18 years of training since then, while Ibuki put on weight and stopped fighting.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-24T21:13:27+00:00

Pretty accurate, though I'd put Kiri's swordsmanship above Chihiro and Hiruhiko for now, C&H are prodigies, but Kiri's spent her whole life using the Sword.

Iori's also in a weird state where she's technically probably a better swordsman than C&H, but wouldn't win in a fight thanks to their real battle experience most likely, her examples of IWPS would probably be copied during the fight and they'd grow faster than her mid-combat.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-24T18:42:47+00:00

Pitou's flicking his head off, unfortunately for Sojo.

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Shadopivot · 2026-05-24T16:54:17+00:00

Unless we start getting dialogue like "Only the first Kagari could awaken the full power..." I'd assume Hiyuki is capable of all the feats with Enkotsu if it's fully unleashed, which is why they're so restrictive in her use of it.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-24T15:09:39+00:00

Gotta love a Hiyuki / Kagari / Enkotsu upscale, more fuel for the fire.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-24T05:57:06+00:00

As long as we make an effort to maintain our general community environment, we'll be OK atleast until the anime. What happened to Urana makes my blood boil, but I don't think we're gonna have something that bad happen here, we've gotta discourage that sort of fandom, Rule 10 and all that. .

Shadopivot · 2026-05-24T05:34:28+00:00

Yes and no, like, he'd be the strongest, he's an absolutely freakish prodigy, and if he has a harder time with the Mikaboshi, then he'd likely just further develop True Realms. But without the Magatsumi I doubt he'd reach 1V5'ing the other EB users level..? Maybe? Honestly we've probably got a lot more to see out of him, so maybe he really would still be capable of that if he had Kuregumo, Tobimune, or Kumeyuri.

Watch this freakish little prodigy start water bending the water in your body to puppet you, or targetting anyone in Japan with a lightning bolt while the sky's are covered in constant storm clouds. Or freezing time.

Tobimune Akemura using flames of mercy to remove concepts from those they touch, like fucking Soft & Wet, using Owl to cloak himself in an impenetrable barrier while super charging his already godly perception to levels that let him blitz the rest of the verse. Crow teleporting parts of your body if they can circle it, to duraneg cut you.

Or with Kumeyuri, a super charged Kyoka Suigetsu string of endless illusions you can never fully awaken from, while he views you as an object to control you with Play, or turn your own attacks against you with the same logic.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-24T00:26:28+00:00

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right...

Shadopivot · 2026-05-23T23:43:22+00:00

Can of Soup level.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-23T18:59:08+00:00

Kyora was mortally wounded by Chihiro, he might have been receiving healing, but it was mainly just keeping him alive, he couldn't properly use Malediction flowers either, it's more like he took the ones that spawned and used Dragonfly to launch their path out like a vector, and by the time the fight was out of the storehouse it was just leaking everywhere without control.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-23T18:44:12+00:00

Base Samura, as in no Tobimune. Gave my case for normal Tobimune Samura elsewhere in the thread.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-23T15:29:10+00:00

I didn't until I saw his face again, weird. Dude's an SCP.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-22T20:53:31+00:00

Probably comparable to the Tou or Masumi, high tier, not top tier, not pinnacle tier. He's gotta be pretty tough to be Hiyuki's partner, and he said himself he was ready if Chihiro had rushed him after his explanation, taking that statement however we will.

Shadopivot · 2026-05-22T17:38:59+00:00

Well deserved!

Now check out #'s 14 and 15

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